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Jaga in Poland, Spain & Germany « Thread Started on May 30, 2012, 12:47pm »
We are leaving tonight to Charleston. Tomorrow to Spain. We will be gone to Europe May 30 - July 13. I hope to be able to update you from time to time here and also in the facebook.
Please, keep forum busy, update also Polish stuff from time to time.
All the best greetings especially for Pieter, Karl, Carl, John, Nictoe, Kai etc....
Jaga PolishSite Nothing is black and white. One country's terrorist is another country freedom fighter. Spy is either a hero or a traitor - depending where.
Jaga PolishSite Nothing is black and white. One country's terrorist is another country freedom fighter. Spy is either a hero or a traitor - depending where.
Re: Jaga will be gone temporarily « Reply #5 on May 30, 2012, 5:01pm »
Jaga,
Have a great time in Europe. Spain is a beautiful country. Unfortunately I have never been there myself, only to Spanish Islands (La Gomera and Ibiza). I love Spanish cinema, music, art, culture and history. It is also connected to the Netherlands and to the USA and Latin/South-America. The Spanish speaking cultures of the Latino's in the USA. It is a long time ago that Spain was a large imperialistic colonial empire. I hope that you are able to see the best sites and places in Spain. Madrid, Barcelona and maybe Sevilla, Cordoba and thus Andalusia (Cordoba is the capital of the autonomous region Andalusia).
Re: Jaga will be gone temporarily « Reply #6 on May 31, 2012, 10:55am »
Glad to hear you are getting out and enjoying the world, Jaga!
I have about another 9 days before I head to the Czech republic. Regret that I will not be near when you are in Poland! did go to Piwniczna te other day & have pictures and stories to post, but that takes a lot of internet time.
I head home on July 3. Will be in the Frankfurt area the last 10 days.
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Re: Jaga will be gone temporarily « Reply #8 on Jun 2, 2012, 5:27pm »
Pieter, I was surprised that Madrid is still so Spanish. I mean there is a certain type of Spanish woman (interesting eye shape, blond highlights in hair) and a certain man type. Madrid is in the middle of semi-desert. When we draw today to the South (Alicante) we drove through the areas covered with shrubs, later we could see some fields, olive trees and grapes. In la Mancha there are lots of wind mills (since the Don Kichote came from there), and hills, mainly next to the coast.
Kai, did you have a good time in Poland? How much Polish side is different than Slovak part of Tatra mountains?
Nictoe, I will have to wait to hear the serenade after I come back.... but thank you!
Jaga PolishSite Nothing is black and white. One country's terrorist is another country freedom fighter. Spy is either a hero or a traitor - depending where.
Jaga PolishSite Nothing is black and white. One country's terrorist is another country freedom fighter. Spy is either a hero or a traitor - depending where.
Jaga PolishSite Nothing is black and white. One country's terrorist is another country freedom fighter. Spy is either a hero or a traitor - depending where.
Pieter, I was surprised that Madrid is still so Spanish. I mean there is a certain type of Spanish woman (interesting eye shape, blond highlights in hair) and a certain man type. Madrid is in the middle of semi-desert. When we draw today to the South (Alicante) we drove through the areas covered with shrubs, later we could see some fields, olive trees and grapes. In la Mancha there are lots of wind mills (since the Don Kichote came from there), and hills, mainly next to the coast.
Kai, did you have a good time in Poland? How much Polish side is different than Slovak part of Tatra mountains?
Nictoe, I will have to wait to hear the serenade after I come back.... but thank you!
Jaga,
I know the Spanish type of women and girls from Amsterdam. One of my first girlfriends in Amsterdam was a Spanish beauty who came from Belgium, where she was the daughter of a Spanish guestworker. She was a dark haired beauty with beautiful black eyes. Like the wonderful Spanish actresses from the great Spanish cinema we love in Western-Europe (and probably in Poland too).
The Spanish women have that exellent mix of Southern-European people, a Moorish or Berber element and probably Roman influences, because the Roman empire influenced all latin or Frankian speaking language people (the French -dark or Brunette too-, the Spanish, Portugese, French Swiss, Itlain Swiss, the Romansh Swiss and their Romansh language, Italians and the Rumanians) Northern Europeans like the Spanish women and (the North-European women probably the men), because they have another way of life, moving (they live outside, the Northern-Europeans more inside -due to the climate-). Spanish women and girls are probably seen as exotic, with an attractive darker skin (more sun), olive skin we sometimes say and darker then we are. Black hair, less tall, more temperament, another kind of charm (Northern-European women can be very direct and less mysterious, to pragmatic and dominant). I also witnessed a difference in mentality between the Spanish, Portugese and Italian people. The Portugese language is more soft and relaxed than the Spanish one and often sounds (nearly) Slavic to me, East-slav, like Russian or Ukrainian. Strange enough I heared the same from Dutch people who know Brasil and Portugal. Brasilian Portuges does not sound slavic, but Portugese to non native speakers who recognise slav languages can have a slav tone. There is a difference between Spanish spoken in Spain and for instance the Canary Islands and Latin-America. The latter sounds more gentle and soft, like Flemish in the Dutch speaking world. The Dutch spoken in the Nehterlands is more taugh with the hard G, like the Spanish spoken in Spain. The Flemish like the Southern-Dutch Brabant and Limburg people in the Netherlands speak with the soft G. Ofcourse I can't compare that with the Spanish Spanish and Latin-American Spanish. This is the conclusion of my Dutch girlfriend who speaks Spanish fluently and who goes to La Gomera every year and who watches Spanish and Latin American tv, sitcoms and movies.
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Re: Jaga in Spain « Reply #12 on Jun 7, 2012, 1:39am »
Pieter,
give me some time to read all through it. Polish forums describe Spanish people as brown hair, almond eyes and very talkative. They say that even elderly women take care of themselves, I noticed that also.
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Re: Jaga in Spain « Reply #13 on Jun 7, 2012, 5:51am »
Brazilian actress Fernanda Torres who played in the movie: 'House of Sand' is an outstanding example of the Roman heritage facial features. Excellent anthropological analysis pieter.
Brazilian actress Fernanda Torres who played in the movie: 'House of Sand' is an outstanding example of the Roman heritage facial features. Excellent anthropological analysis pieter.
You'e welcom Nicetoe. I think I have experiance with it in my Dutch family. We believe that some of our ancesters must have been Spaniards, because my grandmothers family was very dark (black hair and black eyes). My Dutch grandmother was too. My grandmothers family are farmers from the South-West Zeeland area of the Netherlands. It is known that many of the local famers and fishermen are smaller and darker than the surrounding Dutch people. It is believed that they are the ascendants of the Spanish troops who were in that region during the Eighty years war of 1568-1648 and later Huegenots (Fench protestant immigration to the Netherands).
Cheers, Pieter
P.S.- Some Dutch people carry French, Spanish or Portuges names. Most of them are ascendants of French Huegenots and Sephardic jews from Portugal.
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