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Polish Impressions « Thread Started on May 30, 2006, 3:31pm »
The new Pope`s visit took place in 2006.
Poles greeted him enthusiastically.
Some people show off their faith sticking pictures and flags on their windows.
However, I noticed much fewer such displays this year compared to John Paul`s II visits before, e.g. in 2002. When I looked at windows or block facades, I could see only a few ornaments or flags. The explanation might be:
There are fewer believers in Poland or There are fewer enthusiasts of Benedict in Poland or Believers decided that making such a display is a bad taste.
I think the last two hold water best.
People who take a trip to see Pope somewhere in Poland are called pilgrims. These are returning from Błonia field. They are carrying sleeping bags and camping mats because they spent a night in the field to keep a good spot the next day. Most of them are young people, probably university students.
The police were very busy during the visit, and drivers were mad because many roads were blocked for a long time.
The residents of this block didn`t put up any displays. Outrageous pagans! hahahaha
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Re: Polish Impressions « Reply #2 on Jun 1, 2006, 3:48pm »
The revenge is sweet....
Nowa Huta, which was designed in 50s as a first socialist city, today is one of Krakow`s districts. Some of its streets were renamed after the collapse of the system. E.g. Central Square, the main point of the district, got the name of Ronald Reagan.
The Avenue of October Revolution was renamed Solidarity Avenue.
It is a pity the architecture of Nowa Huta will continue frightening visitors for many years. Strange enough, some of its parts were declared to be of great importance, they are classified as historical monuments today. Architects from foreign countries come and study the overall design of the socialist district/city.
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Re: Polish Impressions « Reply #3 on Jun 1, 2006, 9:36pm »
Pawian,
I like some parts of Nowa Huta, it is just that all the houses seems to be similar. The way how they built the houses there in Nowa Huta was a bit better than it was later on in 60 and 70-es.
I still think, that Nowa Huta and Krakow are very far apart in their mentalities....
sorry to ask you for St. Stanislaus procession photos after it was already there
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Re: Polish Impressions « Reply #4 on Jun 2, 2006, 9:11am »
Pawian, In John Paul ll's biography I read about the "Ark" church which was built at Nowa Huta. Do you have any photos of that? I've never seen any and would love to. What is the architecture of the church like?
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Re: Polish Impressions « Reply #5 on Jun 2, 2006, 3:34pm »
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Pawian, In John Paul ll's biography I read about the "Ark" church which was built at Nowa Huta. Do you have any photos of that? I've never seen any and would love to. What is the architecture of the church like?
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Re: Polish Impressions « Reply #6 on Jun 2, 2006, 4:08pm »
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Pawian,
I like some parts of Nowa Huta, it is just that all the houses seems to be similar. The way how they built the houses there in Nowa Huta was a bit better than it was later on in 60 and 70-es.
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Re: Polish Impressions « Reply #7 on Jun 4, 2006, 4:06pm »
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the older I get, the less I like towns ansd the more I like to go sit on a fallen tree and look at bugs ... maybe I am in my second childhood.
I would like to satisfy your desire for bugs now. We started writing about them today in another thread and ...Voala! here they come!
We dropped by to see an exhibition organised by the Academy of Agriculture in Krakow. It was called Days of the Insect, the 6th edition, lasted for 3 days. Academy students presented their collections of insects. Visitors could touch, take photos, handle and buy animals. There were also additional events - lectures, presentations how to prepare insects for the display boxes, clay and paint workshops for children, insect origami, face and arm painting, the fancy-dress party (costume of an insect - a must) etc etc. A typical, Krakow-like, local scale, a bit amateurish event, yet still very exciting for my children.
Re: Polish Impressions « Reply #8 on Jun 4, 2006, 7:02pm »
Pawian, Thanks for all the links regarding the Lord's Ark church. I will be kept busy exploring them for awhile!
I really have to say that I don't find the architecture of the Ark church very appealing, I prefer the more traditional churches, but the history of the church is pretty appealing. I also found it amazing from the links you provided that there are so many churches in Krakow and that they all seem to be of different styles.
Re: Polish Impressions « Reply #9 on Jun 5, 2006, 4:04am »
Pawian,
Thank you so much for these wonderful images, sometimes images say more to me than words because I am very focussed on cities architecture (Modern and old) and the historical organical growth of towns and cities, with old (Renaissance), new (18-19th century Calcissim) and newest (20th century concrete structures) historical buildings and the way they built today. And the way people transform the original purpose of the city planners, Urbanistic bureau's who god their orders from the PZPR, institutions, the Catholic church or private investers/entrepreneurs and companies (such as Multi-nationals). I have never seen Nowa Huta, expept Karol Woytila laying the foundations for the RK church that was built there.
Seeing some of the images make me melancholical, because they remind me of the Poznan and Warszawa of the seventees and eightees I went to. Especially the Theatr Ludowi reminds me of buildings I saw then, and the Modern planned Nowa Huta oversight shots reminds me of modern Warsaw and new neighbourhoods in Poznan too. I am not especially attracted to the Socialist architecture of Nowa Huta, it reminds me of the large worker neigbourhoods in the West to. After the realistic start they became polluted, smeared with grafitti, attracted anti-social people, and in some area's became No-go area's, like the Corbusier stil Ban Lieu's in France. Poland is differant ofcourse, with other sociological, social-economical conditions and the great extended family (family, with friends and neighbours) often stil intact. I just liked your photographs very much.
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Re: Polish Impressions « Reply #10 on Jun 5, 2006, 12:09pm »
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I also found it amazing from the links you provided that there are so many churches in Krakow and that they all seem to be of different styles.
No wonder Krakow has always been called the Polish Rome. This saying is a bit forgotten today...
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I really have to say that I don't find the architecture of the Ark church very appealing, I prefer the more traditional churches
I can agree with you here. It doesn`t appeal to me much, either. It lacks all these little ornaments and details of old churches. To me it looks like a giant bunker with a strange roof. And it is so depressingly grey....
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Re: Polish Impressions « Reply #11 on Jun 5, 2006, 2:30pm »
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I am not especially attracted to the Socialist architecture of Nowa Huta, it reminds me of the large worker neigbourhoods in the West to. After the realistic start they became polluted, smeared with grafitti, attracted anti-social people,
The problem with Nowa Huta architecture, and not only it, I think it concerns all Polish modern architecture is that after some time all these houses become so grey and nobody cares to repaint them from time to time. Very few houses in Nowa Huta have a different colour than grey. And they stand so grey and drab and scare sensitive people like me. I hate this colour, it makes me sick and depressed.
The esthetic tragedy of Nowa Huta is saved a little by the vegetation. It is really abundant, sometimes it covers the grey buildings. Let me quote the words of some foreigner who visited Nowa Huta: "What is it, some phakin Botanical Gardens or what? hahahahaha
However, it works only in spring and summer. During winter time I prefer not to go to Nowa Huta and when I have to, I try to leave as soon as possible in fear of committing a depressive suicide on the spot hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.
The trees line up the sidewalks along all streets in Nowa Huta.
This is the Central Square. Buildings are almost invisible from behind the green screen of trees. Compare it with the black and white bird`s-eye-view photos of the Square. There weren`t any trees yet.
The Villa Neighbourhood. Pseudo detached houses
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I just liked your photographs very much.
Those black and white aren`t mine, and there are many more on the site I gave a link to under the photo of a tank.
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Re: Polish Impressions « Reply #13 on Jun 17, 2006, 1:52pm »
Pawi Thank you so much for all those wonderful photographs and links to sites full of others. I shall be working through them all in detail at every opportunity I get - they are worthy of much time to consider. Some I have seen on my visits to Krakow, the others now go on my list of 'to see'. Again, Dziekuje Bardzo i Wielkie dzieki Leslie
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