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Post by JustJohn or JJ on Apr 18, 2014 9:55:42 GMT -7
A 7.2 magnitude earthquake hit Mexico today.
Hope that it didn't affect you and your friends.
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Post by karl on Apr 18, 2014 14:44:44 GMT -7
J.J.
Thank you for your concerning question. Yes, we were hit with magnitude 7.2, it was centred close to Acapulco. Mexico city usually receives the worse of the worse for the lay of the land most of the city is built upon. The city is built upon a large area of former marsh and lake bed.
Here in Puebla, was a place of shaking, but not as bad as would be expected. For most of the buildings that have survived former earth quakes, were not damaged or if so, not so bad. Just grocery shelves spilt out on the isle ways in the markets, cracked brick work on some buildings.
Our building is a floating floor design for such events. The floors with exception of the basement area, is built upon very large design of heavy springs with the walls and floors as a unit. Upon the event of an earth quake, the walls and floors give a bit in the stead of the entire structure breaking up if the quake is a rolling type. With the sharp strike, it is simular in obsorbing the shock.There are emergency power generators that would kick into action upon the event of a loss of power, but that was not the case.
The canteen shut down and so no fresh coffee, no break fast, no hot lunch, just sandwitches. This was worse then the earth quake when your hungry and looking for ward to some thing tasty..
My flat caught a bit of knocking about with dishes shorn about, and cupboards knocked open. But, later today, a bit of pick up and toss out of broken stuff should be about all.
If any thing, I do have the option to return to our work and sign in with notice as being available only in emergency. We have emergency bunks in the basement and if not to be messy, a good place to sleep. The AC is always on for the electronics and communication systems to keep them healthy, to get any sleep, is to pick up some heavy wool blankets that are about for such occasion.
I have not been into the city today, but by appearances from the various webcams, traffic is doing well and streets are open.
The primary concerns are a few vulcanos nearby in the mountains if an earth quake is to activate them into action, then that would be a different issue to become a situation.
Thanks much for your concern
Karl
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Post by pieter on Apr 18, 2014 16:55:33 GMT -7
I am glad you are okay. From the European continent and America it is hard to determine where you are and if you were near the epicenter of the quake. Thank god your modern building was quake proof. Once I experianced a light quake in the Netherlands, which core was in Limburg. I was shaking in my bad like a sausage which is rolled over in a baking pan. It was just a few seconds, and I thought it was a heavy train that went by, because I live near train tracks and sometimes at night the house and thus my bad shakes when a heavy transport train passes coming from the Rurhgebiet on it's way to Rotterdam. These heavy trains are for me like little earth quakes.
Thank god you weren't struck by a heavy and lethal quake!
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Post by karl on Apr 18, 2014 18:10:11 GMT -7
I am glad you are okay. From the European continent and America it is hard to determine where you are and if you were near the epicenter of the quake. Thank god your modern building was quake proof. Once I experianced a light quake in the Netherlands, which core was in Limburg. I was shaking in my bad like a sausage which is rolled over in a baking pan. It was just a few seconds, and I thought it was a heavy train that went by, because I live near train tracks and sometimes at night the house and thus my bad shakes when a heavy transport train passes coming from the Rurhgebiet on it's way to Rotterdam. These heavy trains are for me like little earth quakes. Thank god you weren't struck by a heavy and lethal quake! Pieter Thank you very much for your concern, for also I understand you are not at peace with an Earthquake either. Truth is, I am not very brave, and those things scare me whilst in action.. Another reason to stay at work. Of all the situations that may kill us in this known world, certainly would not wish it to be an Earthquake.. I liked your description of being shaken like a sausage rolled over in a baking pan, that was so funny, but yet also very serious.. How do you manage to sleep near a train track? My nerves are so bad, that I sleep with two fans in high at the foot of my bed. Most any noise other wise would have me wide awake in an eye blink, especially any person out side the flat talking in a low voice. Your post reminds me, I forgot to include a descriptive url in my previous post..it demonstrates the various earth tremers we have experienced today and in recent past. earthquaketrack.com/mx-21-puebla/recentKarl
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Post by Jaga on Apr 18, 2014 22:05:49 GMT -7
Karl,
I saw your message about the earthquake and I replied a couple of hours ago, but maybe I clicked the wrong button....
It is good to hear that at least you had a sandwich, although not a coffee. Well, this felt almost like Good Friday.
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Post by kaima on Apr 18, 2014 23:13:23 GMT -7
Glad to hear it was easy on you, Karl. I am surprised you received as much shaking as you did. The computer says it is about 400 miles / 700 km between Tecpan and Puebla. When we had the 7.2 in 2002 it hardly shook us in Anchorage, say 300 or 350 miles away.
Then again, we share something now; your 7.5 earthquake and our 9.2 earthquake in Alaska both took place on Good Friday, perhaps 50 years part.
I will be happy if I never see a 6 or better earthquake!
Kai
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Post by karl on Apr 19, 2014 5:52:31 GMT -7
Karl, I saw your message about the earthquake and I replied a couple of hours ago, but maybe I clicked the wrong button.... It is good to hear that at least you had a sandwich, although not a coffee. Well, this felt almost like Good Friday. Jaga Thank you for your concern, very much appreciated. Perhaps it is a guy thing for nothing hot in the morning. There are some vending machines in the break rooms but in the morning, those things simply just feel unappealing... I was laughing a bit upon your hitting the wrong computer button, my self? Well that last few days has been potentually hazardious to my lap top. The techs conducted some checks on it and installed some new apps. This was well and good, except now there are some conflicts in the programming with related problems and issues. In short, the poor thing almost experienced a toss out the door on more then one occasion. Karl
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Post by karl on Apr 19, 2014 6:04:54 GMT -7
Glad to hear it was easy on you, Karl. I am surprised you received as much shaking as you did. The computer says it is about 400 miles / 700 km between Tecpan and Puebla. When we had the 7.2 in 2002 it hardly shook us in Anchorage, say 300 or 350 miles away. Then again, we share something now; your 7.5 earthquake and our 9.2 earthquake in Alaska both took place on Good Friday, perhaps 50 years part. I will be happy if I never see a 6 or better earthquake! Kai Kai Yes, it seems to be we do have some thing in common with these darn earth quakes. I think though, yours have been very very bad for in comparison, ours have not been so bad. If memories serves me correctly, some years past, there was a very very bad one in your part of the world that fairly much destroyed an entire city with an after flooding from the sea. At this moment, the year and city excapes my memory, I was thinking perhaps in the late 50s or early 60s. With this earth quakes, and I am not an expert upon them, but I think it is a large part due to the ground composition. Mexico City is built upon old marshland and sufferes a great deal from earthquakes. Here, we are in a mountain valley with associated bed rock, not sure if this creates any differences in shock transfer. One serious concern is the two volcanos not so far way, one being Popo {Popocatepetl} and the other being Iztacoihuatl. These things are active with Popo being a land mark from most any loation in the city. These are part and partial of the ring of fire in the line of volcanos. As common here with the indians, is various legends, and one is for the volcanos for their names are derived from two lovers in the time of the Aztecs. But, best you view the following url that best describes the event. www.inside-mexico.com/legends/volcanes.htmAs a person, I do realize not always to understand Indian legends, but experience has been my teacher with such. For often as naught, Indian legends are based upon some fact, with this a good idea to be attentive to their stories. For often, to sift through the legend and pick out the facts, will often lead to a truth. For more often then to be admitted, whilst early on, upon seeking out a route to artifacts for photography, an Indian legend will provide a better route to then circumvent some very hazard laden obsticals. The Indians once they know you, are very good friends and it is a good thing to earn thier friendship by keeping it sacred. For these people do not forget easly. As with people, there are not always the good, but by virtue of friendship, your indian friends will steer you away from the bad areas and related not so nice ones. Karl
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Post by Nictoshek on Apr 19, 2014 18:35:15 GMT -7
Glad your safe Karl.
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Post by karl on Apr 20, 2014 12:06:13 GMT -7
Nictoe
Thank you much for your very nice post of question and url of some very devestating property damage. Much of the damage from buildings was primarly of brick construction with plaster facing. For the most part, frame buildings and well supported structures held up well.
This part of the known world is very much expereinced in the event of Earthquakes and as so, much of the built structures are designed in the manner of construction to with stand most events of this magintude.
Thank you very kindly for your post of concern with the urls of youtube of tremer damage. I must opologize for lack of posting of same for here, but at this time, was unable to located such for display.
Next to being afraid of heigths, I think earthquakes are next to the list after nasty snakes and poison insects.
Karl
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Post by Nictoshek on Apr 20, 2014 15:03:24 GMT -7
Hope you weren't in any swimming pool when the quake hit Karl. Guess not, otherwise we wouldn't be hearing from you now.
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Post by kaima on Apr 20, 2014 16:33:12 GMT -7
When the Earth Came in Waves Posted: Thursday, March 27, 2014 10:28 am | Updated: 2:49 pm, Thu Mar 27, 2014. Full Article at www.anchoragepress.com/featured/when-the-earth-came-in-waves/article_960b4460-b5dd-11e3-bac1-001a4bcf887a.htmlBy Mary Lochner On Good Friday 1964, March 27, at 5:36 p.m., a 9.2 magnitude earthquake struck Southcentral Alaska, from an epicenter 56 miles west of Valdez and 75 miles east of Anchorage. In Anchorage, the quake lasted more than four minutes. The following story was constructed from interviews with earthquake survivors. It almost sounded like the garage door coming down, the way it rumbled and shook “Mark” Ganopole’s house. She’d got the nickname during her days as a WWII correspondent, by an editor who didn’t want readers thinking it was a woman writing his news stories. Now 41, Mark was a wife and mother of three living in new housing in the Turnagain neighborhood of Anchorage. The family’d just come back from a skiing trip in Girdwood. Her husband was down the street fixing the car, which had broken down just short of the house on the way home. Her daughters were home with her. The sound and the shaking kept on. Mark looked up. Through the kitchen window, she could see the far end of the forest behind the house upending by some inexplicable force. In a vast phalanx perpendicular to her line of sight, the trees rose, and then fell, rose, and then fell, coming closer, as though the earth had become the ocean, and a giant wave was heaving through it. Her husband was a geologist, and Mark quickly recognized the event for what it was: the leading edge of a seismic wave. She had to get the children out: Deidre, in the kitchen, Lyssa, in her bedroom. But her legs grew unsteady, and then the fridge toppled over on her. She struggled to hold it up enough to keep from getting crushed. Her children. “Get out!” she screamed. “Get out! Get out!” Deidre, 13, and Lyssa, 11, ran — or tried to run. But the earth threw them down so that they had to crawl, bare hands clutching along the snow-covered ground. It was like a thousand freight trains now, that sound. Under their hands, little cracks heaved open and clapped shut, heaved open and clapped shut in the rhythm of a slow heartbeat. * * * * On Fourth Avenue, Richard Nerland was supposed to be walking to the post office, but he couldn’t help but stop to gaze at the cameras through the shop window of Stewart’s Photo. The boy carried three telegrams; orders for his family’s furniture business. As he admired the cameras, the glass they sat behind vibrated. He turned around. The cars parked on the curb bounced and swayed on their tires. Then, above the swelling rumble of the quake, came another sound: the shattering of shop windows all along the avenue. He moved toward the street, but stopped just past the parked cars. A man he didn’t know, standing in the middle of the street, thought the boy looked fit to be crushed between two of the vehicles. The man grabbed Richard and pulled him to the street’s painted center line. There, the two of them crouched to keep steady as possible. Richard looked west down Fourth Avenue, and watched the pavement rolling up and down, shaking side to side, all at the same time. * * * * * On opposite sides of town, Edward and Tracy shared the same thought: “That building is going to fall on me.” * * * * * Bruce clung to a small birch tree in the middle of the yard, and Ramona held on with him. In the carport on the side of the four-plex the cars rocked violently, and a telephone pole on the same side waved in the air, snapping back and forth with its broken black wires sparking viciously at their ends. Her 1-year-old daughter, Karen Lee, started crying in her arms. “Ma’am,” the Sargeant said, “You are banging your daughter’s head against that tree.” She let go of the tree. “Ma’am,” he said in the same tranquil voice. “You and your son are standing on a crack.” * * * * * The wall on one side of the Penny’s building fell off in one chunk, letting in light on all the blinking women and children on the third floor. It crashed to the street below, killing the only son of Leroy and Alice Styer, crushing him where he sat in his car. Lee Styer was a good-humored and good-looking kid with a style that was part James Dean and part Elvis Presley, with his slicked-back hair, rolled-up t-shirt sleeves and turned-up shirt collar. He always carried a comb in his shirt pocket, and usually wore a smile. He loved listening to records; he liked Frankie Valli and the Four Seasons, Chubbie Checker, Roy Orbison. He was a senior at East High School, and up until Good Friday it’d been a pretty good year for his family. * * * * * .... stood up from the sidewalk and turned to look at the row of houses on her street. The earth had stopped shaking, but the buildings were still in motion. She watched the roof of one house fly into the air, rotating horizontally, and come crashing down on the house, caving it in. A massive crevice had swallowed one house, and at the storm door of the house next to it, a woman stood banging on the window, crying for help, holding a baby in her arms. She didn’t seem to notice that if she were to step out of that door, she would fall into the earth. ** ** ** ** When the lights went out on the third floor of the JC Penny building, the sound of children wailing for their mothers, and mothers calling frantically for their children, struck a chord of collective terror that warbled through the air above the sound of a thousand freight trains. Mike Ireton, a tall, dark-haired East High School senior, was there with his younger sister Mary and her friend. Mike was ordinarily a mild soul, but something compelled him to shout, “Quiet!” in the darkness. All voices in the room immediately ceased. He shouted above the quake’s roar. “Mothers, call for your children,” he said. “And children, be quiet and listen for your mother’s voices.” They obeyed his voice. The mothers and children reunited amid the violence of the quake, in the dark. ************** www.anchoragepress.com/news/if-the-big-one-hit-today/article_3807b4ec-b5de-11e3-9f10-001a4bcf887a.htmlIf the Big One Hit Today
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Post by karl on Apr 20, 2014 18:54:48 GMT -7
Nictoe
Yes, very appropreate with "Red Alert", this for sure. At least our little quake was what it was, and not the kind that occures in the area Kai lives in.
I had not thought of this until of your mention with the swimming pool. Yes, earlier in the week I was in a swimming pool indeed so. It was a big mistake upon my part. For I was under the impression as being told, salt water was being used in the place of chlorine in the local public swimming pool close by,,once in the pool, realized by the smell it was chlorine and against better judgment swam for a while then a few minutes in the hot tube {jacuzzi} for another few minutes. The following day, my skin looked like measles. The air here is so dry that I must use lotion in the morning on the usual day, but with that out break,,almost brushed my teeth with lotion for the next few days to get things healed up.
We do have elevators but only for the three floors to be used. Some of the employees whilst in them were a bit shook up once out as I would not blaim them.
There is an aspect though of reality. For one, in the event of an emergency, the building is locked down and no one leaves or enters utill the announcement is given over the building speakers. These would be primarly in the event of a fire for what ever cause. Even that woul be problamatical, for the auto sprinklers would simply soak the heck out of every thing. The most dangerious associated situation in the case of fire, would be the gases and smoke. For it would be the likelyhood of an electrical fire. Most all computer equipment do not have hard drives, but enterconnected to the main computer in the lower basement close to the area I bunk out when as a stay over. In that case, must communicate to entry security that I would not in this case, be checking out untill the following day. These people are very good at thier work,but,,, my self, would most not enjoy to give any of them any reason to be unpleasant.
Karl
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