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Post by kowalskil on Dec 6, 2014 20:37:38 GMT -7
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Post by Jaga on Dec 7, 2014 9:45:11 GMT -7
Ludwik,
I will look when I would have some time. On the otber hand, you are welcome to come and see our posts in the forum also and contribute somewhat!
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Post by karl on Dec 10, 2014 15:49:38 GMT -7
My Dear Herr Professor Kowalskil:
Please accept my answer of your presentation to debate of God. For my self must say: I have no wish of schoolen simbislistic none ending debates that lead no where.
But, I do have interest in the adjacent web sites of url you have so kindly presented.
That what I have to offer is this, please to join with your expertise/history and personal interest to then add to the forum in the flavour of interest as to expand the views of this forum of that you have freely joined.
We are all free men {men being not sexual but of being} and as such, freedom of thought and voice. The world of Soviet is no longer, but with the neu world of the present, are the people in as well as your self.
You no longer are European but with a new life as an American. With this, a different view withen the window of life for to share with us for what we may see. For as my self to say, you are no longer European but American by virtue of your pass port in as much as my self am not Dansk by virtue of my pass port.
Prensenter
Karl
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Post by kowalskil on Dec 14, 2014 7:58:50 GMT -7
Ludwik, I will look when I would have some time. On the otber hand, you are welcome to come and see our posts in the forum also and contribute somewhat! 1) Thank you for your interest, Jaga. 2) Meanhile I have an unrelated question. I am often embarrassed by spelling errors in Polish documents created with MSWORD. Is it possible to correct them automatically with the spell checker, as I do when I write in English? How can this be accomplished? Thank you in advance, Ludwik |
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Post by Jaga on Dec 14, 2014 13:39:33 GMT -7
Ludwik,
I do not write too many Polish documents so I am not really an expert in this field. Maybe somebody else would be able to help, sorry!
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Post by kowalskil on Dec 15, 2014 11:14:01 GMT -7
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Post by uncltim on Dec 15, 2014 19:38:29 GMT -7
Ludwik,
I have enjoyed reading your work very much and find it to be very thought provoking. My mothers family emigrated to the States in 1880, and my fathers family in 1890. They were both from the Russian partition. I have some thoughts that I wish to hear your opinion on. Firstly, "Neither guilt nor victim-hood are transferable." Secondly, Modern religion is as the furthest limb on a tree, you must climb down to truly understand it's source.
I am grateful to you and Linda for taking the time and effort to share your life experience.
-Tim
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Post by jeanne on Dec 27, 2014 16:20:14 GMT -7
Ludwik,
I want to thank you for your postings, which I find very interesting. I have read your diaries in entirety and find them fascinating. I did not read through all the comments about the book which were included in the final chapter, so forgive me if I'm repeating some things that have already been said.
Regarding readers who have difficulty believing that you were still a communist after your experience in Russia and the loss of your father, let me just say that I believe idealism is a very strong component of human nature, particularly in the young, so I find your actions consonant with deep idealism. Since you did not at that time believe in God, it would make sense that you would make the philosophy of communism the focus of that interior part of man that yearns for a connection with something greater than himself.
For those who do not understand how a scientist can come to belief in God, I say that though I am by no means a scientist, when I study science, and in particular the complexities of living cells and also the properties of atoms, it confirms my faith in God, as I believe there must be (...has to be...) intelligent design behind such things.
And lastly, I have not read all of your postings, but am wondering if you have contacted any textbook publishers about your life story. I work in a high school in the US, and I am amazed at the lack of knowledge the students in general have about world history. Reading primary sources is of great help to these students, and I believe some publishers include primary sources as supplements to their textbooks, or at the very least, include selected passages within the texts. Just a suggestion...
Jeanne
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Post by kaima on Dec 27, 2014 21:03:27 GMT -7
For those who do not understand how a scientist can come to belief in God, I say that though I am by no means a scientist, when I study science, and in particular the complexities of living cells and also the properties of atoms, it confirms my faith in God, as I believe there must be (...has to be...) intelligent design behind such things. Jeanne Jeanne, Why do you suppose some people perceive a conflict between scientific thought and faith in God? I do not see a conflict, except in the minds of people who cannot accept that God created the laws of science as a part of divine law and creation. It seems science is simply one way for us to understand the divine creation. All I can guess is that conflict is in human created concepts in preference to recognition of the world as created by God. Kai |
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Post by karl on Dec 28, 2014 6:17:21 GMT -7
For those who do not understand how a scientist can come to belief in God, I say that though I am by no means a scientist, when I study science, and in particular the complexities of living cells and also the properties of atoms, it confirms my faith in God, as I believe there must be (...has to be...) intelligent design behind such things. Jeanne Jeanne, Why do you suppose some people perceive a conflict between scientific thought and faith in God? I do not see a conflict, except in the minds of people who cannot accept that God created the laws of science as a part of divine law and creation. It seems science is simply one way for us to understand the divine creation. All I can guess is that conflict is in human created concepts in preference to recognition of the world as created by God. Kai Kai I do not wish to embarrass you in any manner, but your reply to Jeanne was so very profound and accurate. Very impressive I must say. Thank you for stepping up to the plate and swinging.. Karl |
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Post by jeanne on Dec 28, 2014 7:25:04 GMT -7
Jeanne, Why do you suppose some people perceive a conflict between scientific thought and faith in God? I do not see a conflict, except in the minds of people who cannot accept that God created the laws of science as a part of divine law and creation. It seems science is simply one way for us to understand the divine creation. All I can guess is that conflict is in human created concepts in preference to recognition of the world as created by God. Kai Kaima, I agree with Karl's comment...you said that very well. In answer to your question as to why some people perceive a conflict between scientific thought and faith in God, I'm wondering if it may be a "left side of the brain, right side of the brain" thing. Those people who are naturally "left-siders" are drawn to scientific thoughts, and when concentrating on those disciplines, may down-play the right side of their brains/personalities/modes of thought which are the more spiritual. Without any nurturing of those spiritual thoughts/beliefs, these people may just "tip over" into the left way of thinking and that becomes their dominant view when constructing their personal life philosophy. As I said...just wondering! I'm a great believer in exercising and nurturing both sides of our brain to reach our full potential! Jeanne |
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Post by karl on Dec 28, 2014 10:30:53 GMT -7
Jeanne, Why do you suppose some people perceive a conflict between scientific thought and faith in God? I do not see a conflict, except in the minds of people who cannot accept that God created the laws of science as a part of divine law and creation. It seems science is simply one way for us to understand the divine creation. All I can guess is that conflict is in human created concepts in preference to recognition of the world as created by God. Kai Kaima, I agree with Karl's comment...you said that very well. In answer to your question as to why some people perceive a conflict between scientific thought and faith in God, I'm wondering if it may be a "left side of the brain, right side of the brain" thing. Those people who are naturally "left-siders" are drawn to scientific thoughts, and when concentrating on those disciplines, may down-play the right side of their brains/personalities/modes of thought which are the more spiritual. Without any nurturing of those spiritual thoughts/beliefs, these people may just "tip over" into the left way of thinking and that becomes their dominant view when constructing their personal life philosophy. As I said...just wondering! I'm a great believer in exercising and nurturing both sides of our brain to reach our full potential! Jeanne Jeanne Interesting reply to Kai I must say. For what I believe your references are, would be what we studied in psychology as the Lateralization of brain function. Rather factual or difference in research results who knows for sure. I do think perhaps though, you have the most correct fact over research, and that is nurturing both sides of the brain in function and practice. For in difference to the lateralization function theory was used some years past, was surgically separating the two brain halves for the reason of the Sperry study to cure epilepsy. A resulting situation it was found was the brain processes information using both brain sides. To separate the brain sides will result in loss or partial loss of certain memories. My self am most certainly not a physician. This was covered some time past whilst in attendance training school of interrogation. With psychology goes also physiology for one supports the other. Your reply then triggered this memory which my self am now replying..{our bodies are amazing, are they not?} Karl |
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Post by jeanne on Dec 28, 2014 15:18:00 GMT -7
..{our bodies are amazing, are they not?} Karl Yes, Karl, our bodies are amazing...which is why I cannot believe that they are the product of mere chance in mutations/selective adaptations! There has to be some intelligent force which shaped them through the evolutionary process! Jeanne |
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Post by karl on Dec 28, 2014 16:01:00 GMT -7
..{our bodies are amazing, are they not?} Karl Yes, Karl, our bodies are amazing...which is why I cannot believe that they are the product of mere chance in mutations/selective adaptations! There has to be some intelligent force which shaped them through the evolutionary process! Jeanne Jeanne Yes, you are most correct, there was an intelligent force which shaped them as we have most all read in our respective bibles. ""And God created man in His own image, in the image of God created He him; male and female created He them"".- Jewish Publication Society Bible. Fear not as the above fore says as Jewish, for to read very much similar with most protestant bible works is the same. For not to my self to word the word of the Lord otherwise, for then to be struck down by his wraith. Karl |
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Post by Jaga on Dec 28, 2014 21:18:34 GMT -7
Ludwik,
I read a half of the essay and I agree with Jeanne that it is very well written. I do not want to finish reading it in one breath so that I have some time for understanding all what is behind it. I like it. I think you should try to publish it also in Polish. Maybe you should try to reach "Tygodnik Powszechny"? This is a Catholic newspaper for intellectuals. They used to be very close with John Paul II and they are very Jewish-friendly. I am glad that you talk about God from perspective of Jewish and Catholic thinkers. I read and heard about Spinoza but did not realize that he was a Jewish thinker comparable with Galileo.
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