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Post by Jaga on Jan 13, 2015 0:02:03 GMT -7
As I expected, Paris ceremony became a farce, where everybody wants to be seen in the first row..... a power place. Agela Merker was edited out of the picture for a conservative newspaper. Abbas and Netanyahu were separated by just four world leaders in the front line of the weekend rally, including Merkel and French President Francois Hollande. Their scene-stealing positions were particularly astounding given the French government reportedly asked both to stay away. www.smh.com.au/world/conservative-jewish-newspaper-edits-angela-merkel-out-of-paris-rally-picture-20150113-12n819.html German Chancellor Angela Merkel may be one of the most powerful people on the planet but that hasn't stopped an ultra-Orthodox Jewish newspaper editing her out of a picture of world leaders at the Paris march against terror The Israeli Haredi daily HaMevaser also managed to remove Paris Mayor Anne Hidalgo from the picture, and chose to crop it so that Danish Prime Minister Helle Thorning-Schmidt was just out of shot - although her left hand stays in. Haredi publications have been criticised in the past for editing women out of their pictures, citing modesty as the reason. Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu can't even use that excuse to explain why he tweeted a picture of himself in the front row of world leaders at the march, but managed to crop the shot just at the point where Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas was out rather than in. |
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Post by karl on Jan 13, 2015 7:02:13 GMT -7
Jaga
I do agree with you in this manner of what is obvious with the show of show-man-ship being displayed by these people. They are intent as a matter of ego/pride and showmanship in public display of: Look at me-I have made it-and I am on top...
The serious side of your presentation holds a considerable amount of power both in the manner of political manifestation, and actual power of public opinion. For very few goverments are effective with out the power of public acceptance.
This acceptance relies upon various applications in processes of information propagation through mass media. Or, as a popular tool in information processing being: Propaganda
Many people believe in the written word, to them, if it is written, it is true. Of course most of us know this concept is not true, what is difficult to separate is: a half truth. Or as this case presents, a photograph that has been doctored.
It is in this manner of information processing, we must be vary careful as thinking people in the manner of separating the wheat from the chafe.
Karl
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Post by pieter on Jan 13, 2015 7:47:30 GMT -7
Jaga,
Was the American absence a smart tactical and strategic move or really motivated by security concerns. By being absent the Americans avoided tensions with the Arab world and the non-Arabic muslim nations in the world.
In the same time it might have considered the fact that a majority of the Americans is religiously christian. Charlie Hebdo was mocking faiths in it's cartoons. So with staying away Obama, Biden and Kerry avoided hurting the feelings of the American Muslims, Roman-Catholics, jews and others whom Charlie Hebdo mocked with it's vicious and insulting cartoons. Which could be published due to the freedom of expression and liberal legislation in France.
Due to the absence of the Americans Paris became an European and Middle eastern show, with the presence of Netanyahu, Abbas and the king of Jordan.
Cheers,
Pieter
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Post by Jaga on Jan 13, 2015 14:46:13 GMT -7
Pieter, +++Was the American absence a smart tactical and strategic move or really motivated by security concerns. +++ it takes two days to go to Europe and back, so pres. Obama would have to take two days to play political games. I think people forget that. For Netanyahu, African or European leaders this is just two hour airplane trip. I did not see many Asian leaders there also. Netanyahu in the same day could inspect the action of demolishing of Gaza, call Obama and make sure than America would vote against Palestinian independence and pretend that he is the most important world leader and that the Jews are the most persecuted nation on the Earth. Here is more about Gaza demolitions which was done in the same time: www.mediaite.com/online/thousands-of-homes-now-being-razed-on-gaza-strip-border-so-wheres-international-media-outrage/and here is about Metanyahu calling Obama: ksn.com/2015/01/12/obama-reassures-israel-on-iran-talks-palestinian-court-bid/By the way, I can imagine how the world leaders would elbow themselves to get closer to pres. Obama in the first row..... |
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Post by Jaga on Jan 13, 2015 14:51:39 GMT -7
I do agree with you in this manner of what is obvious with the show of show-man-ship being displayed by these people. They are intent as a matter of ego/pride and showmanship in public display of: Look at me-I have made it-and I am on top... This acceptance relies upon various applications in processes of information propagation through mass media. Or, as a popular tool in information processing being: Propaganda Karl, I agree. I hope you would be on the top for a long time since you are good in what you are doing and you like it! I started watching House of Cards and it makes me more cynical about politics..... Do you have an access to netflix in Mexico? They have this series available there. |
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Post by pieter on Jan 13, 2015 15:19:33 GMT -7
Pieter, +++Was the American absence a smart tactical and strategic move or really motivated by security concerns. +++ it takes two days to go to Europe and back, so pres. Obama would have to take two days to play political games. I think people forget that. For Netanyahu, African or European leaders this is just two hour airplane trip. I did not see many Asian leaders there also. Netanyahu in the same day could inspect the action of demolishing of Gaza, call Obama and make sure than America would vote against Palestinian independence and pretend that he is the most important world leader and that the Jews are the most persecuted nation on the Earth. Here is more about Gaza demolitions which was done in the same time: www.mediaite.com/online/thousands-of-homes-now-being-razed-on-gaza-strip-border-so-wheres-international-media-outrage/and here is about Metanyahu calling Obama: ksn.com/2015/01/12/obama-reassures-israel-on-iran-talks-palestinian-court-bid/By the way, I can imagine how the world leaders would elbow themselves to get closer to pres. Obama in the first row..... Jaga, Isn't it strange if you realize that the French didn't want Netanyahu to be present. The French have traditionally good ties with the Arab countries. In the same time France has a large Jewish community of half a million people (very large for an European Nation) and a mass immigration of French jews to Israel. Each year tenthousands of French jews move to Israel. There must be some connection to that fact and Netanyahu's presence in Paris. Some French and even Israeli's were pissed at Netanyahu, for his plea to the French jews to move to Israel. Cheers, Pieter |
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Post by Jaga on Jan 13, 2015 19:26:12 GMT -7
Pieter
yes, I have heard that French did not really want Netanyahu nor Abbas.
Netanyahu wants to use every chance to provoke the world into thinking that Israel is a constant victim. He is responsible for killing thousands of Palestinian civilians. I did not hear about any pompous funerals for them, just the opposite.
Netanyahu called Palestinians the animals.
I saw the names of the dead journalists. They were either atheists or jews, this would explain why they did not go after any atheistic of Jewish themes, but went after Muslims and Christians.
I am NOT Charlie and no conflicts can be solved by hate propagated through this type of propaganda like these cartoons.
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Post by karl on Jan 13, 2015 19:58:41 GMT -7
I do agree with you in this manner of what is obvious with the show of show-man-ship being displayed by these people. They are intent as a matter of ego/pride and showmanship in public display of: Look at me-I have made it-and I am on top... This acceptance relies upon various applications in processes of information propagation through mass media. Or, as a popular tool in information processing being: Propaganda Karl, I agree. I hope you would be on the top for a long time since you are good in what you are doing and you like it! I started watching House of Cards and it makes me more cynical about politics..... Do you have an access to netflix in Mexico? They have this series available there. Jaga First, thank you for your very kind words, very much appreciated.. Yes, Netflix is very much available in Puebla. pueblaonline.com.mx/.../9703-no-tienes-una-tarjeta-de The head line is: { Do not have a credit card? Netflix bring Mexico prepaid cards}. These are readily available at many stores very similar to debit cards. I do not belong to Netflix nor I am sorry to say, any media organization, only to your forum. Note: for some reason, very seldom will a url translate correctly with the copy feature on my computer. If though, to drag and copy over the above url, then paste in google search, it will come up, then to clicken upon the url to bring it up to the site. Karl |
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Post by Jaga on Jan 13, 2015 22:10:15 GMT -7
Karl, I am glad that our forum is so important for you. it is my baby, your baby and a couple of other trustful friends  |
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Post by Jaga on Jan 13, 2015 22:11:52 GMT -7
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Post by karl on Jan 14, 2015 8:17:49 GMT -7
Jaga
Although not with Netflix, but to instead, use youtube to watch {House of Cards} by. It was interesting with showing the dirty side of politics for vested interest. Although the intent was for entertainment but should not be considered as an educational view of government politics.
I am most happy to not have the responsibility in any elected office of government responsibility as a career. For the position has always the short time future of being out of office, out of the chosin work and back to the place of origin.
Perhaps though, an understanding of the operational structure as a basis of use. Would be quite beneficial to areas not just related to Government, but in the corporate structure. For large corporations use the government model of spreading responsibility between employees, it is efficient. For in the instance of an expensive mistake, only the individual{s} are recipient to take the blaime instead of one person who may be difficult to replace.
Rather be it private corporate or government, the primary needs for what ever programme from operations to vested interest. The primary motes is funding, and funding is based upon finance for both are kissing cousins of reality. Nothing moves with out funding.
One of several seeds of disaster is created by the department{s} using promissory signature{s} for what ever contract or interest rather be it government or private industry. For this entails usurer funds sourced from a lending institution using as collateral based upon expected sales or contract proceeds, to then be repaid upon completion from forthcoming funding appropriations.
The above is not an illustration but a real life situation. Some time past, this was a real life situation between Boeing company and EADS {present day Airbus Group NV}with the US Federal contract letting for the US Airforce Tanker contract{s}. Boeing was eventually the recipient of the contract with use of enfluence in the US congress. Every thing has a cost, the cost paid by Boeing will remain in the shredder.
Karl
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Post by Jaga on Jan 14, 2015 22:26:30 GMT -7
Karl,
+++ Boeing was eventually the recipient of the contract with use of enfluence in the US congress. Every thing has a cost, the cost paid by Boeing will remain in the shredder++++
yeah.... playing the politics of influence.
I AM GLAD TO COULD WATCH at least parts of the movie on yourtube. There are many parts, I am not sure how many are available on youtube. Maybe you can see it better in Mexico than in the US, when many movies or music videos are not available for publics because of the copy rights.
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Post by Jaga on Jan 14, 2015 22:27:37 GMT -7
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Post by Jaga on Jan 14, 2015 23:23:53 GMT -7
By the way, all this mass paranoia about Paris (which I seem to share... the paranoya) showed that the photo-op was deceiving. That means that the leaders were just posing for the picture... not marching with the crowds.... www.nydailynews.com/news/world/photo-world-leaders-paris-not-article-1.2074629World leaders take heat for Paris photo op during march that some say is deceivingThe photos may have made it seem as if David Cameron, Benjamin Netanyahu and François Hollande and the other heads of state were standing at the head of the pack, but at the time they were in fact alone on an empty street, surrounded by security. BY DAVID BOROFF NEW YORK DAILY NEWS Monday, January 12, 2015, 11:03 AM A A A At least 40 world leaders were pictured together in Paris on Sunday in what some critics are calling a misguided photo op.At least 40 world leaders were pictured together in Paris on Sunday in what some critics are calling a misguided photo op. PreviousNextAt least 40 world leaders, including David Cameron, Benjamin Netanyahu and François Hollande, were pictured together on a Paris street on Sunday in a show of solidarity for the victims of last week's Paris terror attacks. Aereal view taken on January 11, 2015 of political leaders attending the Unity rally Marche Republicaine at the Place de la Republique (Republique's square) in Paris in tribute to the 17 victims of a three-day killing spree by homegrown Islamists. The killings began on January 7 with an assault on the Charlie Hebdo satirical magazine in Paris that saw two brothers massacre 12 people including some of the country's best-known cartoonists, the killing of a policewoman and the storming of a Jewish supermarket on the eastern fringes of the capital which killed 4 local residents. Heads of state including Britain's Prime Minister David Cameron (3rdR), Denmark's Prime Minister Helle Thorning Schmidt (2ndR), Poland's Prime Ministe r Ewa Kopacz (R), Greece's Prime Minister Antonis Samaras attend the solidarity march (Marche Republicaine) in the streets of Paris January 11, 2015. French citizens will be joined by dozens of foreign leaders, among them Arab and Muslim representatives, in a march on Sunday in an unprecedented tribute to this week's victims following the shootings by gunmen at the offices of the satirical weekly newspaper Charlie Hebdo, the killing of a police woman in Montrouge, and the hostage taking at a kosher supermarket at the Porte de Vincennes. REUTERS/Yves Herman (FRANCE - Tags: CRIME LAW POLITICS CIVIL UNREST SOCIETY) French President Francois Hollande (C) is surrounded by head of states (From L to R : Benyamin Netanyahu of Istarel, Ibrahim Boubakar Keita of Mali, Angela Merkel of Germany, EU Council President Donald tusk,Palestinian Mahmud Abbas) as they attend the solidarity march (Marche Republicaine) in the streets of Paris January 11, 2015. French citizens will be joined by dozens of foreign leaders, among them Arab and Muslim representatives, in a march on Sunday in an unprecedented tribute to this week's victims following the shootings by gunmen at the offices of the satirical weekly newspaper Charlie Hebdo, the killing of a police woman in Montrouge, and the hostage taking at a kosher supermarket at the Porte de Vincennes. AFP PHOTO POOL PHILIPPE WOJAZERPHILIPPE WOJAZER/AFP/Getty Images *** BESTPIX *** Enlarge Was it an unnecessary photo op? "A cynical display of opportunism," wrote one Twitter user. "Many 'leaders' clearly thought it was about them." "Ahh the photo perspective ... was impressed with photo yesterday, now - not so much," another user tweeted. Some people, though, came to the defense of the world leaders. "I don't think I have a problem with that," wrote Twitter user Karin Robinson. "Message is same, these leaders are always under protection. For good reason." Seventeen people were killed during last week's terror siege, including journalists at the Charlie Hebdo satirical magazine and three police officers. "Our entire country will rise up toward something better," French President Hollande said Sunday. |
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Post by Jaga on Jan 14, 2015 23:25:56 GMT -7
Let me check whether I would be able to post some of these photo-ops  here is a good one  here is Polish woman prime-minister in the right corner:  |
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