Poland Protests “Islamic flooding”

[Nictoshek]

www.rt.com/on-air/anti-refugee-protest-poland/

[karl]

I think perhaps this is to be more common as time goes by. The cause and effect may be those of Islamics will band together and become more tight with keeping to them selves. This is an endangerment to successful intergration into each respective society, and an added concern to each respective government for solutions.

These people are caught between two hells, one they must face in the unknowns, and those they must face that make them unwanted guest and not neighbours.

Friends are created, enimies are made.

Karl

[pieter]

It does not look like tens of thousands, but maybe thousands or a few hundreds. Media can exaggerate figures. But fact is that there are anti-migrant and anti-refugee protests in Poland, Slovakia, the Czech Republic, Hungary, Germany, the Netherlands and probably other countries too.

[Nictoshek]

Perhaps the Poles don't wish to see this eventually happening to them:

A woman in Germany is being evicted from her home of 16 years to make way for asylum-seekers, amid growing concerns over how Germany will find accommodation for the hundreds of thousands of refugees flooding into the country.

German woman threatened with eviction to make way for refugees

[pieter]

This is ridiculous. Authorities first have to take care for their own people. Take care of your own people first and than look after others as much as you can!

[karl]

Yes, this is an issue of too little for too many. Housing and rentals are scarce in the better most part of Berlin and Hamburg. With this, is a currant problem of where to house the large number of refugees that are in dire need.

But, also as fore mentioned by Pieter, this is a problem and issue with German people also. So, what and where is the answer?

The most promising answer is the obvious, and that is to take charge of rental properties for exchange into temporary housing for the over flow of refugees. It is not pleasant nor the most correct manner, but it is legal under the mandate of: Eminent Domain-Enteignung- {The right of government to take or authorize the taking of private property with just compensation provided to the owner}. In return, the owner{s} are expected to provide their tenants reasonable time to vacate.

What is a question is upon the expiration of this need, and the property is vacated, will the owner{s} receive compensation for damages and/or repairs to bring up the property back to original condition.

This is one of many unexpected conditions and changes people must meet, for with the housing, will come the expected need of conditional medical services/food/clothing/transportation access/and all that meets the needs of a family.

I think the Americans have a similar law for situations for the many at the expense of the few such as their Federal projects in building for public works such as a hydro dam that will flood out properties up stream. Or property{s} for public good.

Karl

[pieter]

Dear Karl,

The German woman who is being evicted from her home after 16 years living there to make way for asylum-seekers, should be given a new apartment or home by the German authorities if they want to put refugees in het apartment block. She must be helped. I hope that the news around her situation will give a solution to her problem.

I understand the concerns, the problems and the challenges the German authorities are faced with. But evicting someone from her home without compensation and offering a new home or apartment is not the solution. Germany is a social capitalist country with a social welfare state. The authorities have the possibilities to help this woman if they want.

I keep the point of view that the German government first have to take care of Germans and secondly the interest of newcomers. The German government is there for the Germans, the migrants and the refugees which will become new German citizens, and merge with the migrant community soon.

Cheers,
Pieter

[Nictoshek]

This is just terrible:

Many women have felt the need to sleep in their clothes... they won’t go to the toilet at night because rapes and assaults have taken place on their way to, or from, there. This situation is opportune for those men who already regard women as their inferiors and treat unaccompanied women as “fair game.

Germany in a state of SIEGE: Merkel was cheered when she opened the floodgates to migrants. Now, with gangs of men roaming the streets and young German women being told to cover up, the mood's changing

[pieter]

This indeed is terrible Nicetoe. The European authorities have to monitor, guard and control these refugee centers very carefully. Women and children under our custody must be safe and protected. You either give them a chance to live safe here and built a new life or don't allow them in, if you can't guarantee them safety and a future.

The world has to know that the reality is harsh in Europe, that many Europeans are ethnocentric (no accusation or judgement, but just an observation and fact), concerned about their own future, and the character, nature and status of their own nation in the near future. I hear sounds of people in the Netherlands and other countries who are afraid for a Muslim wave, Islamisation and a Muslim take over of our country and other countries.

It's mixed, balanced and nuanced of course, because from one side you have people who want to help the refugees and are compassionate and empathic, but from the other side you have people who don't want the refugees in their country, in Europe, and form an opposition against the influx of refugees. These people don't want these refugees in their towns, villages or cities. These people find that there are enough migrants already and that more muslims will disturb the balance.

They don't care about the families, women, children, elderly and men that fled. They seem them as 'different people', 'aliens', 'another kind, like Lions and hyena's', as a 'demographic threat', 'profiteers', 'criminals and fanatics'. Our societies are polarised about the refugee crisis and influx.

The problem is that there is the international law, European law and national laws.

Definition of refugee

There are a variety of definitions as to who is regarded as a refugee, usually defined for the purpose of a particular instrument. The 1967 Protocol on Refugee refined the definition of a refugee found in the 1951 Convention as a person who:

- is outside his/her country of nationality or habitual residence,
- has a well-founded fear of persecution because of his/her race, religion, nationality, membership in a particular social group or political opinion, and
- is unable or unwilling to avail him/herself of the protection of that country, or to return there, for fear of persecution.

Article 1 of the Convention as amended by the 1967 Protocol defines a refugee as:

"A person who owing to a well-founded fear of being persecuted for reasons of race, religion, nationality, membership of a particular social group or political opinion, is outside the country of his nationality and is unable or, owing to such fear, is unwilling to avail himself of the protection of that country; or who, not having a nationality and being outside the country of his former habitual residence as a result of such events, is unable or, owing to such fear, is unwilling to return to it.."

Modern political asylum

Article 14 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights states that "Everyone has the right to seek and to enjoy in other countries asylum from persecution." The United Nations 1951 Convention Relating to the Status of Refugees and the 1967 Protocol Relating to the Status of Refugees guides national legislation concerning political asylum. Under these agreements, a refugee (or for cases where repressing base means has been applied directly or environmentally to the defoulé refugee) is a person who is outside their own country's territory (or place of habitual residence if stateless) owing to fear of persecution on protected grounds. Protected grounds include race, caste, nationality, religion, political opinions and membership and/or participation in any particular social group or social activities. Rendering true victims of persecution to their persecutor is a particularly odious violation of a principle called non-refoulement, part of the customary and trucial Law of Nations.

These are the accepted terms and criteria as principles and a fundamental part in the 1951 United Nations Convention Relating to the Status of Refugees non-refoulement order.

Since the 1990s, victims of sexual persecution (which may include domestic violence, or systematic oppression of a gender or sexual minority) have come to be accepted in some countries as a legitimate category for asylum claims, when claimants can prove that the state is unable or unwilling to provide protection.

European Union

Asylum in European Union Member States formed over a half-century by application of the Geneva Convention of 28 July 1951 on the Status of Refugees. Common policies appeared in the 1990s in connection with the Schengen Agreement (which suppressed internal borders) so that asylum seekers unsuccessful in one Member State would not reapply in another. The common policy began with the Dublin Convention in 1990. It continued with the implementation of Eurodac and the Dublin Regulation in 2003, and the October 2009 adoption of two proposals by the European Commission.

Links:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Refugee_law
www.unhcr.org/pages/49da0e466.html
www.refugeelegalaidinformation.org/resettlement-netherlands
www.unhcr.org/pages/49e48eca6.html
www.bmi.bund.de/EN/Topics/Migration-Integration/Asylum-Refugee-Protection/Asylum-Refugee-Protection_Germany/asylum-refugee-policy-germany_node.html
www.bamf.de/EN/Migration/AsylFluechtlinge/asylfluechtlinge-node.html
www.unhcr-centraleurope.org/en/where-we-work/operations-in-central-europe/poland.html
www.politico.eu/article/poland-migrants-asylum-refugees-crisis-commission-kopacz-trzaskowski/

[pieter]

[pieter]

A former Indonesian colleague of mine a few years back predicted that the Muslims will be kicked out of Europe in a few years. A Belgian Lebanese writer wrote a book about a future war or civil war between Islamist Salafist Jihadi's and Far right Neo-Nazi's in Europe.

Michel Houellebecq


French writer, Michel Houellebecq

Submission (French: Soumission) is a novel by the French writer Michel Houellebecq. The book describes a future situation in France (2022), when a Muslim is ruling the country according to Islamic law.





en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Submission_(novel)

Interesting views of the French far right leader Marine Le Pen. I am not a supporter of her party, but it is interesting to see the point of views of a Nationalist and Populist. Her words reflect the ideas and emotions many French, Belgian, Dutch, German, Austrian, Danish, Czech, Slovakian and probably some Polish people share.


I have to say that Marine Le Pen speaks the truth here. The Front National is not anti-Muslim nor anti-semitic or racist, but it fights radical Islam, criminal immigrants and opposes the political correctness of the left, center left and part of the French center right. She does have the support of some French Muslims who oppose islamism and social democracy.

[pieter]

[pieter]

[Nictoshek]

Now talk about an Alice in Wonderland world.

German authorities are applying heavy-handed tactics to find housing for the hundreds of thousands of migrants and refugees pouring into the country from Africa, Asia and the Middle East.

With existing shelters filled to capacity, federal, state and local authorities are now using legally and morally dubious measures — including the expropriation of private property and the eviction of German citizens from their homes — to make room for the newcomers.

German authorities use morally dubious measures to evict its own citizens from their homes to fill them with “refugees”

[pieter]

Nictoshek,

Are we dragging in a Troyan Horse or real refugees? It is very hard to determine who is really a refugee and who is a fake refugee. If the German government will continue to evict its own citizens from their homes to fill them with refugees that will have seveere repercussions. Germans who weren't rightwing populists or far right extemists will become suporters of the National conservative Eurosceptic Alternative for Germany (German: Alternative für Deutschland, AfD), the far right National Democratic Party of Germany (Nationaldemokratische Partei Deutschlands, NPD), Die Rechte, Die Republikaner or become members of the Neo-Nazi underground organisations, the Freie Kameradschaften (informal organised Neonazi-Groups).



Remember The National Socialist Underground of a few years ago. ( en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Socialist_Underground )







Cheers,
Pieter