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Post by JustJohn or JJ on Apr 16, 2016 5:00:47 GMT -7
Witold Waszczykowski describes Russian activity as an ‘existential threat to Europe’
during a debate on the future of Nato
The Polish foreign minister, Witold Waszczykowski, also called for Nato to approve the deployment of troops on the alliance’s eastern border. Photograph: Jakub Kamiński/EPARussia is more dangerous than Islamic State, Poland’s foreign minister Witold Waszczykowski, told reporters during a visit to Slovakia. “By all evidence, Russia’s activity is a sort of existential threat because this activity can destroy countries,” said Waszczykowski, who was speaking in a debate on the future of Nato at the annual Globsec security forum in Bratislava on Friday. “We also have non-existential threats like terrorism, like the great waves of migrants,” he added, according to Poland’s PAP news agency. He described Isis as a very serious threat but said “it is not an existential threat for Europe”. Waszczykowski also called for Nato to approve the deployment of troops on the alliance’s eastern border at its July summit due to be held in Warsaw. “This will be a symbol of the determination to defend the eastern flank,” he said. “We can discuss the scale of this deployment.” The Czech defence minister, Martin Stropnický, said at the conference that strengthening the Nato’s collective defence capability would be the main point on the agenda at the summer summit, while warning that Russia “should not be isolated”. He added that Russia was actively “testing the defensive capabilities of Nato in the Baltic region” where a number of countries have come under pressure, the Czech news agency CTK reported. Russia will use rare talks with Nato next week to protest the alliance’s “absolutely unjustified” military buildup in the Baltic states, Moscow’s Belgian ambassador said on Friday, adding that the alliance was using the Ukraine crisis as a pretext. Russian and Nato ambassadors will meet in Brussels on 20 April for their first formal talks in nearly two years to discuss security issues, including the crisis in Ukraine, where Moscow is accused of backing pro-Russia rebels against the pro-western government in Kiev. |
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Post by Jaga on Apr 16, 2016 11:24:13 GMT -7
This new Polish government is very nationalistic, xenophobic and conspiracy driven, but additionally there were couple of encounters with Russian planes at the Baltic sea. www.vox.com/2016/4/13/11424146/russian-aircraft-footage-balticMultiple times this week, Russian planes have flown aggressively close to a US warship in the Baltic Sea, the USS Donald Cook. How close, you ask? Basically on top of it — as seen in the above video, released by the US military on Wednesday afternoon. It shows two Russian Su-24s flying right up close and personal to the Donald Cook on Tuesday afternoon. It goes pretty fast, so here's a still (released by the military to CBS's Cami McCormick) that shows just how close one of the Russian planes came: |
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Post by karl on Apr 16, 2016 12:10:39 GMT -7
Interesting but an expected situation with the upcoming Ambassadors meeting between NATO and Russia includant with the Ukrainian crises.
The Polish foreign minister" Mr. Waszczykowski is conducting what his position in the Polish Government is to the responsibility that is his to do. Although he may not be faulted, but his line of rhetoric is dictated by Mr. Kaczynski. For what Mr. Kaczynski would enjoy most is to have NATO military forces as a bastone on Polish soil, and buffer states such as Lithuania and Ukraine as buffer states with out payment.
Karl
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Post by karl on Apr 16, 2016 12:12:24 GMT -7
The Russians are little different then other industrial states such as the USA in testing the defensive measures of other militaries. Buzzing the American war ship was a bit out of line and a bit dangerious to say of least, but it served the purpose of disclosing the various radar signatures of not just one war ship, but that of others with similar defensive/offensive electronic systems. These are all recorded as received upon the airframes of such aircraft and later deciphered for development of counter weapon measures, these tactics are very well known and used by many other states. It is then the job of each respondant to lodge the appropriate complaint as to their responsibility to their respective government.
Karl
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Post by pieter on Apr 16, 2016 14:22:03 GMT -7
The Russians will go far in their provocations. It is in the Russian nature. But they know that in case of an armed conflict the USA will be superior in firepower and equipment!
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Post by karl on Apr 16, 2016 20:29:26 GMT -7
It is my most sincerity that an armed conflict will not happen at least for another two generations. My self am not against war, but I do hate it most confidently. Very seldom will war resolve, but in that stead, destroys with out mercy.
Karl
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Post by karl on Apr 16, 2016 20:46:49 GMT -7
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Post by pieter on Apr 17, 2016 13:48:24 GMT -7
I agree with you Karl. War is the weakest option, because it damages a lot of Karma, souls, lives and it creates future conflicts, due to the cause and affect rule. Peoples, countries, regions, cities, towns, villages, hamlets get harmed, destroyed and hurt. The families and peoples of the dead want revenge, and the present and future generations of the killers will pay the price. Germans until today pay the price of the nazi era war crimes and guilt. The fact that the present generation of Germans, and the generation of their fathers who were born after the war too, and sometimes even grandfathers and mothers who were born after 1945 have no guilt of that war. But hatred, stereotypes, a negative image of Germany and dislike of the German language, culture and people in some area's of the world harmed and harm Germans today.
The same with the English, Dutch, Belgians, French, Portugese and Spanish with their colonial pasts. We got that name of slave traders, exploiting imperialist colonial capitalists, racists, arrogant, superior people who harmed people of Africa, Asia (Indonesia), the Middle east, Northern-America (Canada, the USA and Mexico), Latin America and Southern-America. Dutch people are reminded by some people in the USA that they have that colonial heritage. They are aware of the Apartheid system in South-Africa (1948-1994), and that Apartheid is a Dutch word, and that the inventor of Apartheid Hendrik Verwoerd, Prime Minister of South Africa from 2 September 1958 until 6 September 1966, was a man who was born in the Netherlands.
Vietnam, Somalia and Iraq haunts America (the USA), Afghanistan haunts the Russians (SovjetUnion/Russian Federation/Ukraine), the Second-and First World War haunts the English, Indonesia haunts the Dutch, Congo/Rwanda and Burundi haunts the Belgians, Korea haunts the Japanese, Algeria, Syria haunts the french and in November 2004, several thousand of the estimated 14,000 French nationals in Ivory Coast left the country after days of anti-white violence. Poland has it's heritage of conflicts with the Russians, Germans, Austrians, Lithuanians, Czechs and last but not least the Ukrainians. Pre-war conflicts between Poland and Ukrainians and Second World War tensions between Poles and Ukrianians still strain Polish-Ukrainian relations today. And look at the old wounds, scars and animosities between the Greeks and Turks, the Turks and the Kurds, the Armenians and the Turks, the Armenians and the Azerbaijanis (or Azeri's), the Serbs and the Croats, the Flemish people and the Walloon people in Belgium, the Moluccan people (Ambonesians) and Moroccans in the Netherlands, and West vs East, and North vs South in Europe.
Diplomacy, exchange, coexistance, tolerance, understanding, counceling, mediation, meditation, prayer (for peace and understanding), trade, fierce debate, conversation (talking, words, in staid of violence, killing, wounding and maming, rape and pillaging), mutualism, competition in sport, art, culture, music, science, Jesus Christ and Gautama Buddha (Siddhārtha Gautama), the road of the Daila Lama and the present Argentinian Pope, education, playing together as peoples (in staid of fighting eachother) and understanding that war creates more misery than that it cures and solves things must be made clear to people. There are enough powerful, great human souls who preached and preach peace instaid of war.
I am not against war in all cases, I am not a pacifist (unfortunately), but I believe that our politicians, leaders and diplomats could do more to avoid war, and avoid terrorism, deterioration of life conditions of people in the world, hunger, thirst, bad health of the poor of the world, human trafficking, present day slavery and abuse in general. We are in a century and time (the age of aquarious) where we have to strive for world peace, unity and love. Unity in diversity. The future is to peace, war will be a tool of the past. It is our task as human beings to heal the world, to repair the world. Every one of us can do a little bit to reach that goal. If 7 billion people in the world would cooperate in staid of fighting and competing with eachother, this world would be a better place. Look what cooperation and coexistence of people of different ethnic, cultural and religious backgrounds brought to Europe, the USA, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, and South-Africa (despite the Apartheid era wounds, hunge crime, corruption, nepotism and murder rates, in South-Africa people of different races still manage to coexist, cooperate and built a new society.)
Cheers,
Pieter
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