Soldiers of Odin emerge in Sweden - and several other countr

[JustJohn or JJ]

Soldiers of Odin emerge in Sweden - and several other countries




The group 'Soldiers of Odin' has begun patrolling streets in Sweden, as the movement grows to other countries and continents, including USA, Australia and Britain.

On Saturday night, members belonging to the international network "Soldiers of Odin" began guarding the streets of Swedish cities. In Stockholm, Trelleborg and Jönköping, the streets were patrolled in order to increase the security of citizens, according to the group.

Spokesperson Mikael Johansson was pleased with the evening and told that Soliders of Odin will continue to patrol in the city center at weekends. Not only in Stockholm. "We are a growing necessary movement," he told Avpixlat. "We are a reaction to dissatisfaction. Take care of the problems, not us," was his call to the police and other representatives of society.


Spreading to other countries

Soldiers of Odin is spreading virtual to several countries after it was started as an immigration critical street patrol movement in Kemi in Finland last year.

Soldiers of Odin Germany, Soldiers of Odin Portugal, Soldiers of Odin Melbourne and Soldiers of Odin United States are only among some of the groups that have recently appeared in social media, suggesting that the movement is beginning to gain foothold in the world.

An expert from the Finnish police, told the Finnish news agency FNB that the majority of the foreign groups are support groups that are not patrolling the streets.

- However, virtual groups have spread to other countries and continents, said police inspector Timo Kilpeläinen.

In some countries, the vigilante groups have also been established with street patrols. This applies to Estonia, Denmark, Norway and Britain, according to Kilpeläinen.

And now also Sweden.

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[karl]

J.J.

Interesting presentation J.J. for one I am not sure if to reply upon for concern of giving the wrong impression. But shall do so with hope and trust of reply not to be considered offensive..

The manner of this group that was founded in Finland to counter such problems and issues suffered by the fairly recent very large influx of Islamic immigrants/refugees upon their land. Their mission was/is to patrol in group strength those areas populated by these same Islamic people as a means of providing street protection to Finnish people. The intent is well founded and perhaps is working to what ever degree.

The issue though of such vigilante groups such as this {Solders of Odin}, is they are untrained in the manner of resolution of civil disobedience. In this manner, they are subject to misjudgement in the manner of confrontation with such incidents as street gang confrontation and attempted resolution such as force.

The seeds of civil street war{s} is sown by them selves if brought into conflict they are not trained to deal with. This is occurring in Norway with the establishment of the counter group of: The Solders of Allah, this as an Islamic counter to The Solders of Odin.

Now, as above, we have two separate groups in conflict with one to the other.

It is for this reason that the Solders of Odin are forbidden to be in Denmark. Denmark has been soundly denounced by the Sweds for giving notice of unwelcome to any Islamics to stay out of Denmark. This in manner, is an obstical to those Islamics wishing to travel to Sweden needs be to first travel through Denmark.

Denmark as the surface of deep dark waters, very calm upon the surface, but very turbulent below. It is for this reason of some very bad issues of Swedish/Dansk realations in past and present.

Speisa {04-08-16}

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Karl

[JustJohn or JJ]

Karl,

   We have something similar. It started with defiance and hubris but has emerged to what is described in the following:






The Guardian Angels is a non-profit international volunteer organization of unarmed crime-prevention patrollers. The Guardian Angels organization was founded February 13, 1979 in New York City by Curtis Sliwa and has more than 130 chapters around the world.[1]

Sliwa originally created the organization to combat widespread violence and crime on the New York City Subway system. The organization originally trained members to make citizen’s arrests for violent crimes. The organization patrols the streets and neighborhoods but also provides education programs and workshops for schools and businesses.

In the beginning, New York City Mayor Ed Koch publicly opposed the group. Many government officials also opposed the group whenever they attempted to open a chapter in their cities, including Toronto Mayor David Miller and Toronto Police Chief Bill Blair.[citation needed] Over the years, the controversy has died down in many cities; and as citizen involvement and outreach has increased, there has been less public opposition to the group by administration officials. Ed Koch later reversed his stance on the organization,[2] and former New York City Mayors Rudolph Giuliani and Michael Bloomberg have publicly supported the group.

In 1992, Guardian Angels founder Curtis Sliwa issued a public apology for staging several subway rescues in the 1980s in order to get publicity for the group.[3] Since the statute of limitations on filing false police reports had expired, no charges were brought against him or the organization. Sliwa also admitted that the New York City Chapter primarily patrolled the Restaurant Row section of midtown Manhattan, except for occasional well-publicized patrols in other neighborhoods and subway patrols to recruit new members.
Rules and activities

The original and main Guardian Angels activity is "Safety Patrol" in which members walk the streets or ride transit. Guardian Angels must be in uniform to represent the organization. They can be identified by their red berets and red jackets or white T-shirts with the red Guardian Angels logo of an eye inside a pyramid on a winged shield.

Chapters operate similar to franchise networks supporting one another regionally under standard rules, regulations, and training. The Guardian Angels states that it is an equal opportunity organization that encourages diversity.

The organization accepts volunteers who do not have a recent or serious criminal record and are not members of a gang or racial-hate group. In order to join the Safety Patrol program, members must be at least 16 years old; youth programs for younger applicants are offered. Safety Patrol members are prohibited from carrying weapons and are physically searched before patrolling. They are trained in first aid and CPR, law, conflict resolution, communication, and basic martial arts. Members are paired up and follow the directions of a Patrol Leader. If their own or other citizens' lives or health are endangered, they are allowed to do whatever is lawful and necessary.

The Guardian Angels have also begun to include youth programs, teacher programs, disaster response, an Internet safety program called the CyberAngels, and self-defense courses, as well as community outreach addressing issues beyond crime.

[pieter]

Dear Karl,

There are so many similarities between Denmark and the Netherlands that I will not start to describe them. Both have a fairly progressive liberal, tolerant and social-democratic heritage in the twentieth century, with changes of moderate center left and center right coalition governments of social-democrats, social liberals and and democrats and moderate conservatives, pragmatic liberals (FDP/VVD like) and christian democrats. Both have turned to the right in the 21th century due to some negative impacts of mass immigration, 911 and terrorism in Europe. Both in Denmark traditional nationalist forces and rightwing populists and with them more conservative ideas replaced the decades long progressive, pragmatic, leftwing liberal mainstream.

I could say The Netherlands at the surface of deep dark waters, very calm upon the surface, but very turbulent below. I think about the rise of mister Pim Fortuyn and his Populist movement which gained national and international attention, the murder of Pim Fortuyn and the entering of his LPF movement in a national coalition goverment with the conservative-liberal VVD party and the christian democrats of the christian democratic CDA party. Pim Fortuyn's ideas and ideology entered the large democratic parties of the Netherlands. His influence could be seen in the Labour Party (PvdA), the Christian-Democratic CDA and the Conservative liberal VVD. Later Theo van Gogh, the Dutch film director was murdered by a Muslim extremist and that put more oil on the fire. The Climate changed. The history of Geert Wilders Party of Freedom (PVV) began with Geert Wilders' departure from the VVD in September 2004. Wilders could not accept the VVD's positive stance towards Turkey's possible accession to the European Union, and left the party disgruntled. Although the VVD expected Wilders to return his parliamentary seat to the party, he refused, and continued to sit in parliament as a one-man party, Groep Wilders (Wilders Group).

In June 2005 Wilders was one of the leaders in the campaign against the European Constitution, which was rejected by Dutch voters by 62%.

The right-wing populist Party for Freedom was founded in 2005 as the successor to Geert Wilders' one-man party in the House of Representatives, Groep Wilders (Wilders Group). It won nine seats in the 2006 general election making it the fifth-largest party in parliament. In the 2010 general election it won 24 seats, making it the third-largest party. At that time the PVV agreed to support the minority government led by Prime Minister Mark Rutte without having ministers in the cabinet. However the PVV withdrew its support in April 2012 due to differences over budget cuts. It came third in the 2014 European Parliament election, winning four out of 26 seats.

Former VVD Minister for Integration and Immigration in the Cabinets Balkenende II and III Rita Verdonk founded her own rightwing Populist, nationalistic Proud of the Netherlands (Trots op Nederland).



For the Netherlands


Louis Bontes and Joram van Klaveren

Group Bontes/Van Klaveren (Dutch: Groep Bontes/Van Klaveren) – For the Netherlands (Dutch: VoorNederland – VNL) is a parliamentary group in the House of Representatives of the Netherlands formed on 15 April 2014 by Louis Bontes and Joram van Klaveren, two Members of the House of Representatives of the Netherlands had left the Party for Freedom (PVV). On 28 May 2014 Louis Bontes, Joram van Klaveren and Johan Driessen announced the formation of a new political party.



On May 28, 2014, the group officially founded a new political party, VoorNederland (VNL) (in English For the Netherlands or Pro-Netherlands), a classical liberal and Liberal conservatism and Eurosceptic political party. On 13 November 2014, the party announced that it would cooperate with the UK Independence Party in the Alliance for Direct Democracy in Europe. In December 2014 and January 2015, VNL was joined by former PVV leader in the European Parliament Laurence Stassen and, leading up to the 2015 provincial elections, two provincial PVV representatives from Groningen and Gelderland. On 27 January 2015 it was announced that the members of the party Article 50 had voted to merge it into VoorNederland.[9] On 21 April 2015 it was announced that jurist and former lawyer Bram Moszkowicz would become the party leader and lijsttrekker of VoorNederland at the next Dutch general election, planned for 2017, but after nine months he was rejected by the party.

Hero Brinkman



Hero Stoops Brinkman (born 29 December 1964, in Almelo) is a police officer and former Dutch politician. He was a member of parliament from 30 November 2006 to 19 September 2012, after being elected as the number four on the electoral list for the Party for Freedom (Partij voor de Vrijheid - PVV). As the number eleven on the list, he was re-elected in June 2010. As an MP for the PVV, Brinkman focused on home affairs, government renewal, police, defence, administrative burden control, immigration and asylum.

Brinkman repeatedly criticised the lack of democracy within the PVV. For this reason, as well as the PVV's negative generalisations about certain groups in society, Brinkman quit the PVV on 20 March 2012. As a consequence, the PVV's support for the minority first Rutte cabinet was therefore no longer sufficient to provide it with a parliamentary majority, although Brinkman indicated that he intended to continue to support the minority government.

Brinkman was also a member of the States-Provincial of North Holland for the PVV since 10 March 2011. On 22 March 2012 he announced that he would also leave the PVV in North Holland.

From 1985 to 2006, Brinkman worked in the Dutch police force of Amsterdam. As a police officer in the capital city he was among others involved in riot control.

Brinkman and Harry van Bommel of the Socialist Party alternately write a weekly column for the free newspaper Sp!ts under the title 'Haagse Herrie' ('fuss in The Hague') in which they engage in a critical debate.

was It is for this reason of some very bad issues of Swedish/Dansk realations in past and present.

PVV today

With program items like administrative detention and strong assimilationist stance on the integration of immigrants into Dutch society, the Party for Freedom breaks from the established centre-right parties in the Netherlands (like the People's Party for Freedom and Democracy, VVD). In addition, the party is consistently Eurosceptic and since early July 2012, according to the program it presented for the elections a few months later in September, it strongly advocates withdrawal from the EU. PVV is the name under which the foundation Stichting Groep Wilders operates. It has Geert Wilders as its sole member, making the party unique in the Dutch parliament.

The Party for Freedom combines economic liberalism with a conservative programme on immigration and culture. The party seeks tax cuts (€16 billion in the 2006 election programme), de-centralisation and limiting child benefits and government subsidies. Regarding immigration and culture, the party believes that the Judeo-Christian and humanist traditions should be taken as the dominant culture in the Netherlands, and that immigrants should adapt accordingly. The party wants a halt to immigration especially from non-Western countries. It is hostile towards the EU, is against future EU enlargement to Muslim-majority countries like Turkey and opposes a dominant presence of Islam in the Netherlands. The party is also opposed to dual citizenship.

The Parliamentary Documentation Center (Parlementair Documentatie Centrum) of the University of Leiden characterizes the PVV as "populist, with both conservative, liberal, right-wing and left-wing positions".

In general the Netherlands is more centre right and rightwing than it was during the seventies, eighties and nineties. The progressive, liberal and tolerant Netherlands is over. Both leftwing and rightwing political parties have had the influence of the ideas of Pim Fortuyn, Theo van Gogh, Rita Verdonk, Ayaan Hirsi Ali (who had to leave the Netherlands and Europe for her safety) and Geert Wilders.


Pim Fortuyn


Theo van Gogh


Rita Verdonk




Geert Wilders

This caused no tensions or less good diplomatic and political relations between the more Conservative Dutch government and the somewhat more liberal or progressive German and Belgian governments like the 'troubles' between the Swedish and Danish authorities, but the Netherlands for sure is different in it's immigration policies and refugee issues than Germany and Belgium. The Netherlands is more strict and more focussed on minimalization of immigration and working on the integration and assimilation of the Muslim migrants and other non-Western migrants which are already in the Netherlands as ethnic, cultural and religious minorities. I hope that the Syrian and Iraqi crisis can be solved as soon as possible. Even if US-Russian cooperation is necassery. Even if relations with Turkey could become more colder. We have to face our problems with our present minorities and don't need more immigration. First focus on the immigrants of the late sixties, seventies, eighties, nineties and early this century. We have to focus on the various waves of immigrants and refugees who are already in our countries and assimilate them before we can take in any more.

The present wave of refugees which come directly from Libiya by sea, from Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan, Eritrea, Nigeria, Sudan, Southern-Sudan and Somalia, must be stopped somehow. Camps in the region, safe zones with no fly zones, or special area's on the borders of Europe. If the present Muslim migrant minority in our society will grow exessively with the arrival of the newcommers from Syria and Iraq the ethnic and religious and political tensions will rise enormously in Europe. In our German, Dutch and Danish cities we already have ethnic puur Muslim or Non-Western area's. Recently I walked with an Amsterdam friend of mine through Amsterdam-West through a street and neighbourhood which is ethnically Moroccan and Turkish. We were the only Dutch people walking there. Even some Muslim migrants themselves told me that that is not a healthy situation. They want their kids to have a Dutch education, to become Dutch citizens, have a Dutch culture and to be a part of the Dutch society. They feel Dutch now and not Moroccan and Turkish anymore. But unfortunately a large amount of people in their communities live in isolation and ethnic getto's. They only interact with other Moroccans or other Turks. That is not good. If we accept Syrians to stay we have to say, okay, you can stay, but you have to integrate and assimilate. You become Duch, German or Danish in the Netherlands, Germany or Denmark. The problems, issues, tensions, seggregation and rejection of our Western democracy and society by some Muslim migrants is the same in Denmark, Belgium, France, Germany, Sweden, Norway, Austria, the Netherlands and Great-Britain.

Cheers,
Pieter

P.S.- If you allow in Syrian, Iraqi, Afghan and other refugees you have to check their identities very carefully and make sure that they start integrating, and are prepared to become 'new citizens' of our countries immediately, so that we avoid the mistakes we have made with our Muslim migrants during the seventies, eighties and nineties.

[pieter]

The political add of Rita Verdonks Proud of the Netherlands ofcourse was ridiculed in a Dutch satirical show with Dutch comedians.



Proud of the Netherlands was used in a parody on the Wizard of Oz


There is nothing to be proud of the girl says in the end. The shrinking Wizard of Oz in the figure of Rita Verdonk was the symbolic shrinking of the Proud of the Netherlands, who lost vote after vote!

[pieter]

These soldiers of Odin look like a merger of biker gang members, neo-Nazi's. soccer Hooligans and old fashionate Skinheads.

[karl]

Pieter

With reference to the last video, yes, they do appear as skin heads by their appearance, although wearing their respective black named jackets as their identification uniform. They appear to be following a path of acceptance of white Norwegians on the street with their appearance and assistance. They appear to be receptive to attention of citizens met on the street and reflect with smiles and friendly attitude.

There is still the problem of lack of training in enforcement technology as would be received by police training. The other aspect is a legal issue that may or may not arise from any confrontation they may meet with out acceptance by the Norwegian Federal Agencies and/or Police. This would be the liability if done so, in the manner of Vicarious Liablity/Vicarious Responsibility as an indirect legal responsibility for any unlawful behavior of these respective groups. If only the knowledge of their operations on the street could/would be legal responsibility for non control as a legal liability to Police authority of that respective district.

It is of good hope and trust of course, that just the presence in numbers of these groups will suffice as a controlling entity will hold the course against any confrontation that would develop with their presence.

Karl