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Post by pieter on Sept 1, 2017 14:55:25 GMT -7
Alt right, White Power activists White suprematists, the KKK, and Neo-Nazi's were in the news in the USa due to their open racism, anti-semitism and islamophobia recently. In Europe in general and in Germany in particular there is a popular music scene of a militant far right minority, called Rechtsrock in German and White Power music in English. The German Neo-Nazi party NPD uses Rechtsrock for Agitprop (Propaganda) means. It's music for young NPD members ( Junge National Demokraten, JN), Nazi-Skins, and other far right neo-nazi's. White power musicWhite power music is music that promotes white nationalism. It encompasses various music styles, including rock, country, experimental music, amateur rap and folk. Ethnomusicologist Benjamin R. Teitelbaum argues that white power music " can be defined by lyrics that demonize variously conceived non-whites and advocate racial pride and solidarity. Most often, however, insiders conceptualized white power music as the combination of those themes with pounding rhythms and a charging punk or metal-based accompaniment." Genres include Nazi punk, Rock Against Communism, and National Socialist black metal. Barbara Perry writes that contemporary white supremacist groups include " subcultural factions that are largely organized around the promotion and distribution of racist music." According to the Human Rights and Equal Opportunity Commission " racist music is principally derived from the far-right skinhead movement and, through the Internet, this music has become perhaps the most important tool of the international neo-Nazi movement to gain revenue and new recruits." An article in Popular Music and Society says " musicians believe not only that music could be a successful vehicle for their specific ideology but that it also could advance the movement by framing it in a positive manner." Dominic J. Pulera writes that the music is more pervasive in some countries in Europe than it is in the United States, despite some European countries banning or curtailing its distribution. European governments regularly deport "extremist aliens", ban white power bands and raid organizations that produce and distribute the music. In the United States, racist music is protected freedom of speech in the United States by the First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution. The party continues to pursue a " people's front" of the nationals [consisting of] the NPD, DVU, and forces not attached to any party ( NGO far right circles: de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freie_Kameradschaften ), which is supposed to develop into a base for an encompassing 'German people's movement'. The aggressive agitation of the NPD unabashedly aims towards the abolition of parliamentary democracy and the democratic constitutional state, although the use of violence is currently still officially rejected for tactical reasons. Statements of the NPD document an essential affinity with National Socialism; its agitation is racist, antisemitic, Homophobic, revisionist, and intends to disparage the democratic and lawful order of the constitution. NGO far right groups ( Freie Kameradschaften ) march in Dresden, Germany
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Post by pieter on Sept 1, 2017 14:58:32 GMT -7
White power rockNazi punk music is stylistically similar to most forms of punk rock, although it differs by having lyrics that express hatred of Jews, homosexuals, communists, anarchists, anti-racists and people who are not considered white, as opposed to the often left-wing lyrics of punk rock. In 1978 in Britain, the white nationalist National Front (NF) had a punk-oriented youth organization called the Punk Front. Although the Punk Front only lasted one year, it included a number of white power punk bands such as The Dentists, The Ventz, Tragic Minds and White Boss. The Nazi punk subculture appeared in the United States by the early 1980s during the rise of the hardcore punk scene. The Rock Against Communism movement originated in the United Kingdom in late 1978 with activists associated with the NF. The most notable RAC band was Skrewdriver, which started out as a non-political punk band but evolved into a white power skinhead band after the original lineup broke up and a new lineup was formed. They were the "most dominant white racial extremist band" and were idealized in the "emerging movement that arose in response to perceptions of political liberalism, diversity, and the loss of a power in the white community." Skrewdriver advocated on behalf of extreme right-wing and racist politics, and its frontman Ian Stuart Donaldson identified himself as a British neo-Nazi. The group performed mainly for other white power skinheads and "asserted the need for extremist political violence." Bands that followed their lead also "fused racist ideology, heavy metal and hard rock styles", embracing "aggressive racism and ethnic nationalism". National Socialist black metal (NSBM) is black metal that promotes National Socialist (Nazi) beliefs through their lyrics and imagery. These beliefs often include: white supremacy, racial separatism, antisemitism, heterosexism, and Nazi interpretations of paganism or Satanism (Nazi mysticism). According to Mattias Gardell, NSBM musicians see "national socialism as a logical extension of the political and spiritual dissidence inherent in black metal. Bands whose members hold Nazi beliefs but do not express these through their lyrics are generally not considered NSBM by black metal musicians, but are labelled as such in media reports. Some black metal bands have made references to Nazi Germany purely for shock value, much like some punk rock and heavy metal bands. According to Christian Dornbusch and Hans-Peter Killguss, völkisch pagan metal and neo-Nazism are the current trends in the black metal scene, and are affecting the broader metal scene. Mattias Gardell, however, sees NSBM artists as a minority within black metal.
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Post by pieter on Sept 1, 2017 15:05:27 GMT -7
Division GermaniaDivision Germania (DG) ist ein Rechtsrock-Projekt des Neonazis und Hammerskins Andreas Koroschetz aus Mönchengladbach, der seine Stücke mit wechselnden Gast-Musikern spielt. BandgeschichteDas Ein-Mann-Projekt wurde im Jahr 2000 von Andreas Koroschetz gegründet. Bisher wurden vier Musikalben und eine Split-Veröffentlichung mit Macht & Ehre veröffentlicht. Auf den Veröffentlichungen wird Koroschetz von verschiedenen Gastmusikern unterstützt, die jedoch anonym bleiben. Die Gruppe beteiligte sich ebenfalls an der Projekt-Schulhof-CD 2009 der NPD zur Bundestagswahl 2009, sowie der aus der Freien Kameradschaftsszene stammenden CD Schulhof CD – 60 Minuten Musik gegen 60 Jahre Umerziehung von 2007. Bisher wurden drei Alben der Gruppe von der BPjM indiziert. Andreas KoroschetzAndreas KoroschetzAndreas Koroschetz (geb. 1983) ist Krankenpfleger und Mitglied der neonazistischen Kameradschaft Aachener Land. Zur Bundestagswahl 2005 trat Koroschetz für die NPD als Direktkandidat im Wahlkreis Mönchengladbach an und errang mit 1,1 % Erststimmen das schlechteste Ergebnis der sechs Direktkandidaten. Er ist Anhänger der „Reichsbürgerbewegung“. Koroschetz war Schlagzeuger der Rechtsrock-Band Sleipnir und hat zwei Alben der neonazistischen Berliner Band Macht & Ehre eingespielt. Macht & Ehre (später auch: Schwarzer Orden) und Division Germania, die sich einst gegenseitig unterstützt und bei Veröffentlichungen zusammengearbeitet hatten, gehen nun getrennte Wege. Zurzeit ist Koroschetz auch als Gitarrist und Texter in der Nazipunk-Band Rotte Charlotte aktiv, deren andere Bandmitglieder „zum engsten Freundeskreis“ Koroschetzs gehören.
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Post by pieter on Sept 1, 2017 16:00:06 GMT -7
Anti-fascists have their own subculture of anti-Nazi bands.
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Post by karl on Sept 1, 2017 17:33:25 GMT -7
Pieter It is a shame of these people keeping alive the semblance of the war time political party that is so hated in Germany such as these Neo Nazi people. They are people by virtue they are homo sapiens or at least bi-peddle arthropods or at least pretending of such.. It is if there is not enough upon this earth to deal with, these people pop up like unwished for poison ivy. This Andreas Koroschetz musician was a good move to bring him in to their fold. For he is a musician and this is the key to the young minds that lean to such groups. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/StahlgewitterKarl
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Post by pieter on Sept 2, 2017 0:54:51 GMT -7
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Post by Jaga on Sept 2, 2017 4:21:09 GMT -7
I still thought that this white power music is more on the fringe of the society than black rap. Still, interesting to know.
Below is one of the favorite Nazi army song "Heili Heilo":
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Post by pieter on Sept 2, 2017 12:13:15 GMT -7
Jaga,
My father and mother knew that song from the occupied Rotterdam and Warsaw cities. My father hates that song, because German Wehrmach soldiers sung it in Rotterdan when they marched through the city. My mother heard Waffen-SS soldiers sing that song when they marched through her Mokotow neighbourhood in Warsaw during the Second World War.
Cheers, Pieter
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Post by karl on Sept 2, 2017 13:46:07 GMT -7
Jaga
I was surprised to hear you enjoyed the song of: Heili Heilo, but then should not be so. For that is a good hiking song to pass the time whilst hiking with friends.
The following was/is one I have always liked, for it is the Panzerlied. Although sung in an American war film, it has the english translation which makes it to understand by others. Whilst my required Bundeswehr military service in our Panzers in year 1958-1959. We also sang that song and at times were joined in by other American solders. Some were suprizingly understanding and spoke good German.
My father, in the war, was in the Wehrmacht Panzer, he served first in Poland, North Africa and died with his crew and Panzer in Russia. I never knew the circumstances that caused his death.
Once when I was twelve, I sang that song and both my cousins slapped my head down for doing so. Then both held my whimpering head to their breast and wet my head with their tears. Simply destroyed my supposed manly pride.
Karl
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Post by Jaga on Sept 3, 2017 5:36:00 GMT -7
Hi Karl,
thanks for sharing a panzer song with me...especially since it reminds you about your father. I can understand that it was something dear to you.
Referring to "Heili Heilo" - this song is addictive in a way that its music is catchy, but it makes sometimes my skin crawl because of the war and negative connotations.
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Post by karl on Sept 3, 2017 7:41:09 GMT -7
Hi Karl, thanks for sharing a panzer song with me...especially since it reminds you about your father. I can understand that it was something dear to you. Referring to "Heili Heilo" - this song is addictive in a way that its music is catchy, but it makes sometimes my skin crawl because of the war and negative connotations. Jaga I understand your uneasyness with this song, due to the circumstances of that long past war. I do hope this was not a cause for bad memories. Karl
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Post by pieter on Sept 3, 2017 8:13:42 GMT -7
Hi Karl, thanks for sharing a panzer song with me...especially since it reminds you about your father. I can understand that it was something dear to you. Referring to "Heili Heilo" - this song is addictive in a way that its music is catchy, but it makes sometimes my skin crawl because of the war and negative connotations.I mentioned that negative connotations. For my father who heard that song " Heili Heilo", sung by the Wehrmacht soldiers marching through his bombed and flattened city Rotterdam, the sound of these cheerful sing and marching soldiers (with the sound of marching boots under the song) was humiliating, irritating, frustrating and bad. It were marching and singing occupying forces who marched on the ashes, rumble and the few streets that were left over of a destroyed city. Invasion of HollandThe Netherlands during the Second World War was strategically lodged between Great Britain and Germany, making it an ideal prospective German air and naval " base" during Operation Sea Lion, the planned invasion of the British Isles that was to follow the forthcoming aerial Battle of Britain. The Netherlands had firmly opted for neutrality throughout the First World War and had planned to do the same for the Second World War. It most notably refused armaments from France, making the case that they wanted no association with either side. While armament production was slightly increased after the invasion of Denmark in April 1940, the Netherlands possessed 35 modern wheeled armoured fighting vehicles, no tracked armoured fighting vehicles, 135 aircraft and 280,000 soldiers, while Germany had 159 tanks, 1,200 modern aircraft, and around 150,000 soldiers at their disposal for the Dutch theatre alone. The Wehrmacht finally attacked the Netherlands in the early hours of 10 May 1940. The attack started with the Luftwaffe crossing through Dutch airspace, giving the impression that Britain was the ultimate target. Instead, the aircraft turned around over the North Sea and returned to attack from the west, dropping paratroopers at Valkenburg and Ockenburg airfields, near the Dutch seat of government and the Royal Palace in The Hague, starting the Battle for the Hague. While Germany had planned to take over swiftly using this tactic, the Dutch halted the advance at the core region of Fortress Holland, slowing down the German invasion. The situation in Rotterdam on the morning of 13 May 1940 was a stalemate as it had been over the previous three days. Dutch garrison forces under Colonel Scharroo held the north bank of the Nieuwe Maas river, which runs through the city and prevented the Germans from crossing; German forces included airlanding and airborne forces of General Student and newly arrived ground forces under General Schmidt, based on the 9th Panzer Division and the Leibstandarte Adolf Hitler, a motorized SS regiment. Generaloberst Rudolf Schmidt of the German WehrmachtA Dutch counterattack led by a Dutch marine company had failed to recapture the Willemsbrug traffic bridge, the key crossing. Several efforts by the Dutch Army Aviation Brigade to destroy the bridge also failed. General Schmidt had planned a combined assault the next day, 14 May, using tanks of the 9th Panzer supported by flame throwers, SS troops and combat engineers. The airlanding troops were to make an amphibious crossing of the river upstream and then a flank attack through the Kralingen district.[15][16] The attack was to be preceded by artillery bombardment, while Gen. Schmidt had requested the support of the Luftwaffe in the form of a Gruppe (about 25 aircraft) of Junkers Ju 87 dive-bombers, specifically for a precision raid. Schmidt's request for air support reached Berlin, staff of Luftflotte 2. Instead of precision bombers, Schmidt got carpet bombing by Heinkel He 111 bombers besides a Gruppe of Stukas focussing on some strategic targets. Schmidt used the threat of destruction of the city to attempt to force Colonel Scharroo to surrender the city. Rotterdam, the largest industrial target in the Netherlands and of major strategic importance to the Germans, was to be bombed. Scharroo refused and stretched out negotiations. The start of the air raid had been set for 13:20 [Dutch time, MET – 1 hr 40]. Schmidt postponed a second ultimatum to 16:20. However, just as the Dutch negotiator was crossing the Willemsbrug to relay this information, the drone of bombers was heard: a total of 90 bombers from Kampfgeschwader 54 were sent over the city. Generaloberst Rudolf Schmidt of the German Wehrmacht said on May 14, 1940 in Rotterdam; " Um Gottes Willen, das gibt eine Katastrophe', ' Das wird ein zweites Warschau.' (" For God's sake, that will be a catastrophe", " That will be a second Warsaw" (Warsaw was heavily bombed in september 1939) Student radioed to postpone the planned attack. When the message reached KG 54's command post, the Kommodore, Oberst Walter Lackner, was already approaching Rotterdam and his aircraft had reeled in their long-range aerials. Haze and smoke obscured the target; to ensure that Dutch defences were hit Lackner brought his formation down to 2,300 ft (700 m). German forces on the Noordereiland fired flares to prevent friendly fire — after three aircraft of the southern formation had already unloaded, the remaining 24 from the southern bomber formation under Oberstleutnant Otto Höhne aborted their attack. The larger formation came from the north-east, out of position to spot red flares launched from the south side of the city, and proceeded with their attack. Fifty-four He 111s dropped low to release 97 tonnes (213,848 lb) of bombs, mostly in the heart of the city. Rotterdam Blaak railway station and LaurenskerkWhy the formation had not received the abort order sooner remains controversial. Oberst Lackner of the largest formation claimed that his crews were unable to spot red flares due to bad visibility caused by humidity and dense smoke of burning constructions and subsequently needed to decrease altitude to 2,000 feet.[30] But the red flare, which Lackner failed to see, might have also been used by the Germans to show their location in the city to avoid friendly fire. An official German form designated red as the colour for that purpose. In total, 1,150 50-kilogram (110 lb) and 158 250-kilogram (550 lb) bombs were dropped, mainly in the residential areas of Kralingen and the medieval city centre. Most of these hit and ignited buildings, resulting in uncontrollable fires that worsened the following days when the wind grew fiercer and the fires merged into a firestorm. Hooton states that bombs ignited vegetable oil tanks on the dockside, which caused fires that spread into the city centre, causing massive devastation. Although exact numbers are not known, nearly 1,000 people were killed and 85,000 made homeless. Around 2.6 square kilometres (1.0 sq mi) of the city was almost levelled. 24,978 homes, 24 churches, 2,320 stores, 775 warehouses and 62 schools were destroyed. Schmidt sent a conciliatory message to the Dutch commander General Winkelman, who surrendered shortly afterwards, at Rijsoord, a village southeast of Rotterdam. The school where the Dutch signed their surrender was later turned into a small museum.
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Post by pieter on Sept 3, 2017 8:40:35 GMT -7
Als am 1. September 1939 der Zweite Weltkrieg begann, gehörte die Division Schmidts wiederum zum XVI. Armeekorps (mot.), welches nun von General der Kavallerie Erich Hoepner kommandiert wurde. Dieses Korps sollte im Polenfeldzug als „Speerspitze“ der deutschen Truppen fungieren und nach Überwindung des ersten polnischen Widerstandes schnell bis Warschau vordringen. Tatsächlich gelang den Truppen des XVI. Armeekorps bei Tomaszów Mazowiecki ein Durchbruch und schon am 8. September 1939 drangen Teile des Verbandes zeitweise in die polnische Hauptstadt ein. Schmidts 1. Panzer-Division fiel dabei die Aufgabe zu, südlich von Warschau die rechte Flanke zu decken und gleichzeitig Brückenköpfe auf dem östlichen Weichsel-Ufer zu bilden. In diesen Tagen befanden sich diese deutschen Verbände weit voraus und mussten sich einige Zeit lang gegen polnische Gegenangriffe aus fast allen Richtungen behaupten, bis die Hauptkräfte des Heeres herankamen. Nachdem diese Krise überwunden war, kam Schmidts Division zwischen dem 16. und 20. September 1939 auch in der Schlacht an der Bzura zum Einsatz. Rotterdam, 14. Mai 1940: Obwohl der niederländische Stadtkommandant Verhandlungen mit Schmidt aufnahm, erhielt Schmidt den Befehl, den Widerstand Rotterdams „mit allen Kräften zu brechen, nötigenfalls ist [die] Vernichtung der Stadt anzudrohen und durchzuführen.Nach dem erfolgreich verlaufenen Feldzug wurde die Masse des deutschen Heeres an die Westgrenze verlegt und auf die geplante Offensive gegen die Westalliierten vorbereitet. Im Zuge der Vergrößerung und Neuordnung der Kommandostruktur erhielt Schmidt am 1. Februar 1940 einen neuen Posten als Kommandierender General des neu aufgestellten XXXIX. Armeekorps. Allerdings wurde der Korpsstab zunächst in Reserve gehalten und erst zwei Tage nach Beginn des Westfeldzuges am 10. Mai 1940 gelangte Schmidts Stab im Bereich der 18. Armee unter General der Artillerie Georg von Küchler zum Einsatz. Dem Armeekorps wurde am 12. Mai der Befehl über die 9. Panzer-Division, 254. Infanterie-Division und Leibstandarte SS „Adolf Hitler“ unterstellt. Mit diesen Kräften sollte Schmidt gegen die Festung Holland mit Schwerpunkt Rotterdam vorgehen und dort eine dauerhafte Verteidigung der niederländischen Truppen verhindern. Zu diesem Zweck wurde ihm auch die 7. Flieger-Division unterstellt, deren Soldaten im gegnerischen Hinterland abgesprungen waren und sich dort festgesetzt hatten. Deutsche Soldaten landeten mit zwölf He 59 Wasserflugzeugen auch an der Wilhelmsbrücke über die Maas in Rotterdam und bildeten einen schweren niederländischen Gegenangriffen ausgesetzten Brückenkopf. Zur Entlastung wurde bereits am 13. Mai ein deutscher Luftangriff befohlen. Schmidt kommandierte den Entsatz für den Brückenkopf und führte in dieser Funktion auch Kapitulationsverhandlungen. Von seinem Vorgesetzten Küchler erhielt Schmidt den Befehl, den Widerstand Rotterdams „mit allen Kräften zu brechen, nötigenfalls ist [die] Vernichtung der Stadt anzudrohen und durchzuführen.“ Um unnötiges Blutvergießen zu vermeiden, forderte Schmidt die niederländische Besatzung der Stadt am 14. Mai 1940 zur Kapitulation auf. Bereits am Vortag war allerdings der Befehl an die Luftwaffe ergangen, die Stadt am folgenden Tag um 15 Uhr zu bombardieren. Als die Niederländer auf die Verhandlungen eingingen, funkte Schmidt um 14:15 Uhr an das Luftwaffenkommando „Angriff wegen Verhandlungen aufgeschoben.“ Doch dieser Befehl erreichte die anfliegenden Verbände nicht mehr: Um 14:55 Uhr war die Kapitulation unterzeichnet; gegen 15:05 Uhr bombardierten Flugzeuge des Kampfgeschwaders 54 das Areal vor dem Brückenkopf, also die Altstadt von Rotterdam. Das Bombardement und der anschließende Großbrand töteten etwa 900 Menschen. Das Luftwaffenkommando erreichte Schmidts Befehl zum Abbrechen des Bombenangriffs nicht mehr die Piloten. In Rotterdam starben etwa 900 Menschen
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Post by karl on Sept 3, 2017 12:31:16 GMT -7
Dear Pieter
Also have I forgotten of the destruction of many of your fine cities and especially the city of Rotterdam that should never have been bombed. I am sorry if to cause you bad memories and especially to your Father for what ever remarks I have made.
Perhaps I should not have entered this discussion for obvious reasons. Your Nederlands suffered a great deal in that lousy war. Our Denmark offered only a three hours of resistance and then was under occupation, but with this, very little war time damage was suffered. Our coastal areas was then fortified and not far north of our home, was a Luftwaffe base. Not long ago, a crashed BF-109 was dug up from a farmers field with still the pilot in place that was from the war years.
Karl
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Post by karl on Sept 3, 2017 12:37:04 GMT -7
Dear Pieter Also have I forgotten of the destruction of many of your fine cities and especially the city of Rotterdam that should never have been bombed. I am sorry if to cause you bad memories and especially to your Father for what ever remarks I have made. Perhaps I should not have entered this discussion for obvious reasons. Your Nederlands suffered a great deal in that lousy war. Our Denmark offered only a three hours of resistance and then was under occupation, but with this, very little war time damage was suffered. Our coastal areas was then fortified. acepilots.com/german/bf109.htmlKarl
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