Murder of old French woman in Paris

[pieter]

Murder of Mireille Knoll



Mireille Knoll was an 86-year old Jewish woman who survived the Holocaust only to be murdered in her Paris apartment on 23 March 2018 by anti-Semites. The murder is being officially described as a hate crime.

Investigation

The Paris prosecutor’s office said on 26 March that this murder was an anti-Jewish hate crime, a murder committed because of the “membership, real or supposed, of the victim of a particular religion,” a statement that the New York Times described as "a roundabout way of saying she was killed because she was Jewish."

Arrests and legal proceedings

Two suspects were immediately taken in to custody; authorities revealed only that one of the suspects was born in 1989.

Funeral

The funeral procession, held on March 28, drew thousands of mourners, who walked solemnly through the streets of Paris. They walked from the Place de la Nation to Knoll's apartment building in the 11th arrondissement.


This photo provided by Daniel Knoll Tuesday March 27, 2018 shows Mireille Knoll, center, with her son Daniel and grand daughter Jessica.

[karl]

Pieter

I was not happy to hear of this, but am grateful you have presented. I will though, to the best of my mindset, to be rational enough to be decent.

What these two men committed against this old women of 85 years was unconscionable and beyond reason. It matters not to say these men were radicalized, for this is simply an excuse to shift responsibility of their actions, for these two men with brutal actions of malice did so commit this heinous act of murder by action of 11 stab wounds in to her body until she was dead. With this, to add to the heinous act, was they had befriended her for some time before their act of cold blooded murder to gain her trust and friendship. To say she was Jewish is not in this realistic world as an excuse for her murder, she was an old lady of 85 years in age and her life was taken in such a cruel manner as to defy all logic.

For the matter they are of the religious faction of Muslim{Islamic} is not an excuse for their personal actions. Their actions alone speak for them selves.

Karl

[pieter]

I have only a few wordst to say Karl, four words!

I agree with you!

[Jaga]

Pieter, Karl,

here is information about at least 16 Palestinian people killed by Israeli forces. I wonder whether we could find their names and pictures. They were probably young and old and they wanted to have normal lives:

www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/israeli-forces-kill-palestinian-protesters-gaza_us_5abe629ce4b0a47437aa939c


Israeli Forces Kill At Least 16 Palestinian Protesters Along Gaza Border: Officials
Gaza officials said at least 400 people were wounded by gunfire, while others were struck by rubber bullets or tear gas.

[karl]

Jaga

I very well understand your feelings withen the context of such event that we are speaking of. The reply my self so given to Pieter was in context of an unprovoked criminal act against an 85 years old women helpless by advanced age and situation as occured in France.

In the matter of this situation created and propagated by the Palestinians is a different matter that is entirely as of outcome as to be the responsibility of the individuals so involved. As my self am in this case, entirely disadvantaged in not personally a witness to the event we are speaking of, must depend upon the reports brought to us as people. For in this we are dependant upon the accuracy of the individuals observation and accurate reporting.

For this reason, for my self, was to resort to a Russian reporting of the event as most accurate with details that are usually left out.

Once again, I do understand your reaction and feelings about the matter of Palestinians and their plight. All land is owned by some one, and with their case, they lost their land that is now Israel by forces of a superior culture such as occured between the American Indians and white settlers in the early years of the United States.

Yes, my self do feel badly for the Palestinians for having some years in past knew as friends, some Palestinian families. They were working people and good people, I did enjoy our mutual friendship at that time and still hold a great respect for them. I do not form an opinion of who is correct or right between Those Palestinians and members of the IDF and related actions, for this is between those two factions to determine their own issues. What I am saying, is my self am not an activist for I have no right to think or believe as being.

My reasoning of reply is simply to differenciate between my reply to Pieter and the information you have very rightly so, presented to Pieter and my self.

sputniknews.com/middleeast/201803311063100635-siz-palestinian-injured-gaza/

Palestinians attend a tent city protest along the Israel border with Gaza, demanding the right to return to their homeland, east of Gaza CitySix Palestinians Injured Saturday in Clashes With Israeli Forces - Reports © REUTERS/ Mohammed Salem

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16:26 31.03.2018(updated 17:39 31.03.2018) Get short URL111

The Israeli authorities said earlier in the day that they would step up response if clashes on the Israeli-Palestinian border continue.

According to Palestinian WAFA news agency, six Palestinians were injured on Saturday in clashes with Israeli forces on the west side of the Gaza Strip.

The agency noted that three of them had been shot during clashes with the Israeli police near the town of Khan Yunis, while other three had been injured near a tent camp in the western Gaza.


Meanwhile, several hundred of protesters were affected by tear gas that has been used by the police to disperse the protesters. Hamas movement, in its turn, has stated that among 15 Palestinians, who have died during one-day-long clashes, five belong to the Izz ad-Din al-Qassam Brigades, which is Hamas's military wing.

"We state that five fighters of Izz ad-Din al-Qassam Brigades were among 15 Palestinians killed yesterday in the clashes with the Israeli army in the Gaza Strip," the Hamas statement obtained by Sputnik said.


The event dubbed "The Great Return March," which started the day before, is dedicated to the so-called Land Day, commemorating the day in 1976, when Israeli troops killed six Arabs protesting against confiscation of land.

Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas stated that Israel was responsible for the violence, having declared March 31 a national day of mourning, while Israel blamed the brutal protests on Hamas, saying, “the IDF would not allow the security fence to be turned into an area of terror.”


A wounded Palestinian woman is evacuated during clashes with Israeli troops, during a tent city protest along the Israel border with Gaza, demanding the right to return to their homeland, the southern Gaza Strip

The protest sets an objective to attract attention to the problem of people, who have become refugees because of Nakba, as well as of their descendants. The event has been organized by such groups as the Hamas movement, the Fatah party, the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine and the Democratic Front for the Liberation of Palestine among others.

Karl

[Jaga]

Karl, the world refuses to see Palestinians as individual people. Instead we see them as responsible for their own situation of living in the ghetto and being treated worse than dogs. It is bad to kill helpless 85 year old women, but it is even worse to kill 16 unwilling "prisoners" of ghetto who have no hope in life

+++In the matter of this situation created and propagated by the Palestinians is a different matter that is entirely as of outcome as to be the responsibility of the individuals so involved. +++

Israel of course demonizes these people. Netanyahu has smile on his face in sputnik article.

What would you do if your life would be limited to being stack in overpopulated Gaza with no job and no way to leave and no way to even having any impact on your future?

+++ they lost their land that is now Israel by forces of a superior culture such as occured between the American Indians and white settlers in the early years of the United States.+++
Palestinians lost their land due to superioi military power of Israel. They were farmers, right, but they are several universities there. Indians got some land back and they are also the citizens of the US.
Netanyahu does not treat Palestinians as people who deserve right to life and pursuit of happiness.

here is more:
www.washingtonpost.com/world/israel-threatens-to-expand-response-if-gaza-violence-continues/2018/03/31/aab4d494-3464-11e8-b6bd-0084a1666987_story.html?utm_term=.5a18d4f82484

The video appears to show the teenager, dressed in black, running away from Gaza’s border fence with Israel carrying a tire. Just before reaching a crowd, he crumples under gunfire.

“He had no gun, no molotov, a tire. Does that harm the Israelis, a tire?” asked his brother Mohamed Abdul Nabi, 22. “He wasn’t going toward the Israeli side. He was running away.”
The teenager was one of at least 15 people killed in the Gaza Strip by Israeli forces on Friday during what Palestinian factions billed as a peaceful “March of Return” to mark Land Day, the anniversary of the expropriation of Arab-owned land by the Israeli government in 1976. But it ended as the bloodiest day in the 140-square-mile territory since the 2014 war between Israel and Hamas, the militant group that controls Gaza.

Abdul Fattah’s family is among those demanding an investigation into the Israeli response to the protest, saying videos show he posed no threat. More than 700 people were injured with live ammunition in the demonstration, according to the Palestinian Health Ministry in Gaza. Forty-nine were wounded Saturday, it said.

The United Nations on Saturday said it was “deeply concerned” and called for a transparent, independent investigation. The Israeli human rights group Adalah and the Gaza-based Al Mezan Center for Human Rights wrote to Israeli Attorney General Avichai Mandelblit to demand accountability.


In the letter, they said the use of live fire against civilians was a “blatant violation of international laws.”

"expand the response" means "brutally killing more people"

[pieter]

Jaga,

This was a murder of an old woman in France. I would have had the same rage if she was a christian, humanist or Muslim woman.

The criminal act against an helpless 85 years old woman of advanced age and situation by thugs in France has no connection to Palestine.

I don't see the link with Israël and Palestine. The son of the mother did'nt talk about Israël, Palestine, Arabs or jews.

He just mourned the loss of his French mother in France.

Cheers,
Pieter

[Jaga]

Pieter,

I cannot understand why a murder of 16 people by state of Israel goes unnoticed as like they were a bunch of faceless terrorists.

Please, post more information about murders of elderly women from all over the world. I think you are an innocent victim of propaganda, since this woman's story was emphasized because she was Jewish.