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Post by pieter on May 25, 2018 16:03:09 GMT -7
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Post by karl on May 25, 2018 17:53:57 GMT -7
Pieter
Robotics it would so seem, as to be the future for how ever it should evolve. In the field of soft robotics using the human form of movement and soft materials over hard becomes more human like. Apparently this field of robotics is taken very seriously both in China and Japan.
It would be very interesting to live long enough to see how robotics will evolve in the world of humans..
Karl
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Post by Jaga on May 26, 2018 5:27:40 GMT -7
Pieter, looks faboluos I wish I had a time to see more than just famous museums and art galleries in Amsterdam, the Stedeiijk museum sounds very interesting
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Post by pieter on May 27, 2018 0:42:32 GMT -7
Robots developping new robots themselve, having human intelligence, information, knowledge, experience and technology sounds scary to me. A smartt Humanoid Robot without a human brain, a human soul, mind, heart and empathy and love which comes from human conciousness, ethics, values and a mitual aid system.
We are on the way of creating perfect humanoifs. Robots which look exactly like humans but who are copies of human forms, shapes and behaviour.
Question: “Can future advanced humanoids (Robots) replace hunans, and use human biology (human sperm and egs plus IVS, combined with robotics) to create new Borg like Humanoid Robots’’
I remembert that in the late nineties there was sm ethical discussion about the dangers, limits, ethicsl consequences of nano technology, stem cell tesearch, Clone technolohy and robotics. One of the participamts back them was the German philosopher Peter Sloterdijk.
I don’t see the debate about science and ethics today. Stephen Hawkins warner before hiis death about the side effects and dangere of artificial intelligence, nanotechnology and robotics.
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Post by pieter on May 27, 2018 2:46:09 GMT -7
Jaga, The Stedelijk Museum is the Museum of Modern Art on the Museum square where also the Rijksmuseum and the Vincent van Gogh Museum are. It is hardly impossible to do all three Museums in one day, because of rhe huge touristic lines of people in front of the museums. It would take about one ful day to see all three Museums on the Museum square.
If you have seen only the Rijksmuseum and the Van Gogh Museum it would be quite understandable. The Rijksmuseum is seen as the most important museum with the workdfamous Nachtwacht (Nightwatch) painting of Rembrandt and paintings of Vermeer, Frans Hals, Pieter Breughel, Isaac Israels, Breitner, and other ‘Old school’ Dutch painters of the Dutch Golden age (1600-1700), the 18th and 19th centuries and exhibitions about more Modern theme’s. The Rijksmuseum is the Dutch Louvre (Paris). I hope you saw what you wanted to see in Amsterdam. That you experienced the freedom, history, the culture, architecture and people of Amsterdam. The Dutch atmosphere of the chanals, chanal houses, the bridges and the bike culture.
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Post by Jaga on May 27, 2018 9:07:28 GMT -7
Pieter, I need to go to the Netherlands and Amsterdam again. I was there twice, but only in the evening, I did not have a chance to see the museums except from outside, too bad. Jaga, The Stedelijk Museum is the Museum of Modern Art on the Museum square where also the Rijksmuseum and the Vincent van Gogh Museum are. It is hardly impossible to do all three Museums in one day, because of rhe huge touristic lines of people in front of the museums. It would take about one ful day to see all three Museums on the Museum square.
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Post by karl on May 27, 2018 13:16:59 GMT -7
Pieter
For as we live in a world of fear as exampled by the common fear of self thinking machines and with this, the common fear of losing control by that of what is considered a machine {robot}. Perhaps we as our selves forget, we are machines, but in our case, we are biological machines and as our needs are opposite of a mechanical {digital electronic} machine we fear them as a possible competitive companion in our lives to deal with. This is a natural humanistic reaction that is built in to us as a survival instinct that nature in most all of us.
Perhaps to over come the above, the name of,"Robot", needs be changed to some else as a described entity to remove this stigma of fear to that which is more in line with what it is, perhaps a name of: companion would best describe a human like that resembles the human form. With this, the instilled conscience that would resemble the human manner of self awareness.
What ever the reason of the above, as long as it resembles a human being, will most be accepted.
For as above, we as people, have already designed the foundation of automated robotics in our high speed precision manufacturing. What is needed, is completion of self guided central control units with self guided indexing for a Automatic autofactory that once incoded with the necessary codes to replace entirely the human touch. What would be the sty in the eye, would be the fights from the labour unions. Although as a first reaction from labour, could be eased with retraining of most of the labour force to fit the needs of this new industry.
The future holds great promise to those that think and not to those that react.
Karl
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Post by pieter on May 28, 2018 7:10:04 GMT -7
Real Humans (Swedish: Äkta människor) is a 2012 Swedish science fiction/drama series set in an alternative near-future version of Sweden where consumer-level humanoid robot workers and servants are widespread. The series follows the resulting emotional effects on two families as well as the trials of a group of robots who have attained free will and want their freedom from human ownership. It premiered on SVT 1 on 22 January 2012. The series was written by Lars Lundström (sv) and directed by Harald Hamrell and Levan Akin (sv). As of 2013, the series has been sold to about 50 countries, including Australia, France, Germany, and South Korea. A second season of ten episodes premiered on SVT1 in October 2013. In April 2013 it was announced that Lars Lundström was writing a third series, but as of August 2014, SVT is yet to officially announce whether the series will be renewed for a third season. As of November 2014, Lundström said in an interview with Festival Court Métrange, " We have planned for a third season, we have written a whole outline and some scripts, but right now it's in decision making (sic); if it's going to happen or not, because we have problem to fund the budget money. In a couple of weeks, maximum a month, we know, but I'm sorry to say, I'm not very optimistic.".
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Post by pieter on May 28, 2018 7:17:44 GMT -7
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Post by pieter on May 28, 2018 7:18:42 GMT -7
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Post by Jaga on May 28, 2018 12:19:04 GMT -7
Pieter, I looked in more details into some of these animations and it is a bit scary and sad. I mean, very interesting but also sad, almost too human.
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Post by pieter on May 29, 2018 9:12:30 GMT -7
That is also the function of Fine Art Jaga to show the changing tides of time, to scare, wake up and make people Frightened sometimes.
Modern art or Contemporary art often goes about todays society, technology, social conditions, developments, the dynamics of our society and the subjective drive and taste of an artist.
Contemporary art is the art of today, produced in the late 20th century or in the 21st century. Contemporary artists work in a globally influenced, culturally diverse, and technologically advancing world. Their art is a dynamic combination of materials, methods, concepts, and subjects that continue the challenging of boundaries that was already well underway in the 20th century. Diverse and eclectic, contemporary art as a whole is distinguished by the very lack of a uniform, organising principle, ideology, or "-ism". Contemporary art is part of a cultural dialogue that concerns larger contextual frameworks such as personal and cultural identity, family, community, and nationality.
I will admid something to you I aggree with you that some of these animations were extremely detailed and alienating for me too and so, yes it is a bit scary and sad. That artificial human face with the moving eyes, lips, mouth and teeth is weird and strange too.
The dancing Humanoid robot woman with the white dress and black mask is scarily real and can only be recognised as a robot due to her arms. Without that you would think that a sexy female dancer was dancing in a museum in some sort of weird human performance or happening, but this is a dancing robot sculpture and thus a piece of art.
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