Post by pieter on Jul 31, 2018 16:29:47 GMT -7
Dear Karl,
I always respect your opinion due to the fact that you are a German professional and due to the fact that you have experience with Syria, Israeli's, Russian and Ukrainian people, South-Africans, Namibians, Southern-Americans, Americans, Canadians, Germans, Austrians and Americans. I am interested though and in the case you could and want to reply to my question what you think about the Palestinian leaders and the young lady Ahed Tamimi in present day and a future Palestinian state next to Israel. Whom do you tink would be suitable as a Palestinian leader? Don't forget that many politicians, prime-ministers, presidents and well respected parlaimentarians, philosophers and thinkers of today were radical and rebellious when they were young. After they matured and gained experience in life they became more pragmatic, moderate and sought for solutions in another way. I think about your former German minister of Foreign Affairs, of the liberal Alliance 90/The Greens (German: Bündnis 90/Die Grünen or Grüne). He was the most popular politician in Germany for most of the government's duration. In September 2010 he supported the creation of the Spinelli Group, a europarliamentarian initiative founded with a view to reinvigorate the strive for federalisation of the European Union.
In 1967, he became active in the German student movement and left-wing movement (post-) 1968 (the so-called Spontis), first in Stuttgart and after 1968 in Frankfurt am Main. For his regular income, Fischer took several low-wage jobs, such as working in a left-wing bookstore in Frankfurt. During this period, he began attending university events, including lectures organized by left-wing revolutionary students by Theodor W. Adorno, Jürgen Habermas and Oskar Negt. He studied the works of Marx, Mao and Hegel and became a member of the militant group, Revolutionärer Kampf (Revolutionary Struggle). Fischer was a leader in several street battles involving the radical Putzgruppe (literally "cleaning squad", with the first syllable being an acronym for Proletarische Union für Terror und Zerstörung, "Proletarian Union for Terror and Destruction"), which attacked a number of police officers. Photos of one such brawl in March 1973, which were later to haunt Fischer, show him clubbing policeman Rainer Marx, to whom he later publicly apologized.
Another question, what can Palestinians in a peaceful, non violent way do to resist against the Israeli occupation, humiliating roadblocks and the fact that due to these limitations the education of children and teenagers is harmed and farmers are hindered in their work, because they can't acces their land freely if there is a wall behind them and their land, and when due to occupation restrcitions and closures Palestinians become unemployed and have water shortages?
Karl,
You can't judge Ahed Tamimi as an adult, because she hasn't reached the adult age of 18 yet, and you have to consider that she comes from a family of activists. So, there she is influenced, guided, trained, accompanied and supported in her youth activism. She started as a child and continues her support in her way as a teenager. Many Palestinian generations are radicalized due to the conflict with the Israeli's, but also because of thensions within the Palestinian Authority territory between various Palestinian groups and Fractions. Within the PLO between Fatah, the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine (PFLP), the Democratic Front for the Liberation of Palestine (DFLP) and the communist Palestinian People's Party (PPP) and other minor groups, and between Fatah and the Islamist groups Hamas and Islamic Jihad. Armed Fatah groups like the Tanzim and The al-Aqsa Martyrs' Brigades attacked the Israeli army, settlers and Israeli citizens. The al-Aqsa Martyrs' Brigades have carried out several joint attacks with the Islamist group Hamas. These attacks were committed mainly in the Gaza Strip. The al-Aqsa Martyrs' Brigades have also carried out joint attack with other militant groups such as Palestinian Islamic Jihad, The Popular Resistance Committees and with Hezbollah in the West Bank.
It is unwise, and irresponsible to fire machine guns in the air like these guys do, because bullets come back from the air and hurt citizens on the street.
Here you see a very strange movie in which Israeli and Palestinian forces seem to cooperate against a Palestinian mass of rioters
Bassem Tamimi
Bassem Tamimi (also Bassem al-Tamimi, Arabic: باسم التميمي, born c. 1967) is a Palestinian grassroots activist and an organizer of protests against Israeli settlement construction in the West Bank. He was convicted by an Israeli military court in 2012 (after being arrested in 2011) for "sending people to throw stones, and holding a march without a permit".
In his West Bank village Nabi Salih, Tamimi organizes weekly demonstrations against Israeli settlement. He has been arrested by the Israeli authorities over a dozen times, at one point spending more than three years in administrative detention without trial. Tamimi has said that he advocates grassroots, nonviolent resistance, but has also said that stone-throwing is an important symbol of Palestinian resistance to Israeli occupation. His 2011 arrest drew international attention, with the European Union describing him as a human rights defender, and Amnesty International designating him a prisoner of conscience. He was arrested again in October 2012 for a demonstration in a supermarket, but released in early 2013.
He is the father of Ahed Tamimi, who was sentenced to eight months in prison under a plea bargain in 2018.
Bassem & Ahed Tamimi - Father and Daughter
Cheers,
Pieter
I always respect your opinion due to the fact that you are a German professional and due to the fact that you have experience with Syria, Israeli's, Russian and Ukrainian people, South-Africans, Namibians, Southern-Americans, Americans, Canadians, Germans, Austrians and Americans. I am interested though and in the case you could and want to reply to my question what you think about the Palestinian leaders and the young lady Ahed Tamimi in present day and a future Palestinian state next to Israel. Whom do you tink would be suitable as a Palestinian leader? Don't forget that many politicians, prime-ministers, presidents and well respected parlaimentarians, philosophers and thinkers of today were radical and rebellious when they were young. After they matured and gained experience in life they became more pragmatic, moderate and sought for solutions in another way. I think about your former German minister of Foreign Affairs, of the liberal Alliance 90/The Greens (German: Bündnis 90/Die Grünen or Grüne). He was the most popular politician in Germany for most of the government's duration. In September 2010 he supported the creation of the Spinelli Group, a europarliamentarian initiative founded with a view to reinvigorate the strive for federalisation of the European Union.
In 1967, he became active in the German student movement and left-wing movement (post-) 1968 (the so-called Spontis), first in Stuttgart and after 1968 in Frankfurt am Main. For his regular income, Fischer took several low-wage jobs, such as working in a left-wing bookstore in Frankfurt. During this period, he began attending university events, including lectures organized by left-wing revolutionary students by Theodor W. Adorno, Jürgen Habermas and Oskar Negt. He studied the works of Marx, Mao and Hegel and became a member of the militant group, Revolutionärer Kampf (Revolutionary Struggle). Fischer was a leader in several street battles involving the radical Putzgruppe (literally "cleaning squad", with the first syllable being an acronym for Proletarische Union für Terror und Zerstörung, "Proletarian Union for Terror and Destruction"), which attacked a number of police officers. Photos of one such brawl in March 1973, which were later to haunt Fischer, show him clubbing policeman Rainer Marx, to whom he later publicly apologized.
Another question, what can Palestinians in a peaceful, non violent way do to resist against the Israeli occupation, humiliating roadblocks and the fact that due to these limitations the education of children and teenagers is harmed and farmers are hindered in their work, because they can't acces their land freely if there is a wall behind them and their land, and when due to occupation restrcitions and closures Palestinians become unemployed and have water shortages?
Karl,
You can't judge Ahed Tamimi as an adult, because she hasn't reached the adult age of 18 yet, and you have to consider that she comes from a family of activists. So, there she is influenced, guided, trained, accompanied and supported in her youth activism. She started as a child and continues her support in her way as a teenager. Many Palestinian generations are radicalized due to the conflict with the Israeli's, but also because of thensions within the Palestinian Authority territory between various Palestinian groups and Fractions. Within the PLO between Fatah, the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine (PFLP), the Democratic Front for the Liberation of Palestine (DFLP) and the communist Palestinian People's Party (PPP) and other minor groups, and between Fatah and the Islamist groups Hamas and Islamic Jihad. Armed Fatah groups like the Tanzim and The al-Aqsa Martyrs' Brigades attacked the Israeli army, settlers and Israeli citizens. The al-Aqsa Martyrs' Brigades have carried out several joint attacks with the Islamist group Hamas. These attacks were committed mainly in the Gaza Strip. The al-Aqsa Martyrs' Brigades have also carried out joint attack with other militant groups such as Palestinian Islamic Jihad, The Popular Resistance Committees and with Hezbollah in the West Bank.
It is unwise, and irresponsible to fire machine guns in the air like these guys do, because bullets come back from the air and hurt citizens on the street.
Here you see a very strange movie in which Israeli and Palestinian forces seem to cooperate against a Palestinian mass of rioters
Bassem Tamimi
Bassem Tamimi (also Bassem al-Tamimi, Arabic: باسم التميمي, born c. 1967) is a Palestinian grassroots activist and an organizer of protests against Israeli settlement construction in the West Bank. He was convicted by an Israeli military court in 2012 (after being arrested in 2011) for "sending people to throw stones, and holding a march without a permit".
In his West Bank village Nabi Salih, Tamimi organizes weekly demonstrations against Israeli settlement. He has been arrested by the Israeli authorities over a dozen times, at one point spending more than three years in administrative detention without trial. Tamimi has said that he advocates grassroots, nonviolent resistance, but has also said that stone-throwing is an important symbol of Palestinian resistance to Israeli occupation. His 2011 arrest drew international attention, with the European Union describing him as a human rights defender, and Amnesty International designating him a prisoner of conscience. He was arrested again in October 2012 for a demonstration in a supermarket, but released in early 2013.
He is the father of Ahed Tamimi, who was sentenced to eight months in prison under a plea bargain in 2018.
Bassem & Ahed Tamimi - Father and Daughter
Cheers,
Pieter