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Post by pieter on Jun 2, 2019 16:20:32 GMT -7
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Post by pieter on Jun 2, 2019 16:21:47 GMT -7
Translation:
Celibacy
Unsustainable situation
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Post by kaima on Jun 2, 2019 18:55:25 GMT -7
There seem to be a variety of opinions on the topic ... then for the Old Fashioned, and for the irredemiably modern,... and for the (almost) old time religion (a US specialty)
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Post by karl on Jun 2, 2019 20:12:27 GMT -7
Well now, what will be next, hmmm. Perhaps to casterate those male priest as a solution since these people do not understand the rules they signed on with the priest hood.
Or, shall Lutherans dig up Mr. Martin to once again start nailing more demands upon their doors. There are solutions to most every thing, some pleasant, others not so pleasant.
Karl
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Post by Jaga on Jun 2, 2019 22:03:34 GMT -7
I don't really like some of these jokes, but I start to believe that the rule of celibacy needs to be lifted. Catholic church had it also to make it cheaper to have a priest without the family, still, it looks that this is not really a good idea. When I was watching Siekierski's film, one of the bishop said that we are born in the sinn, which was his excuse for the priests. I think, that so called original sinn cannot justify this type of secual abuse of minors.
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Post by kaima on Jun 2, 2019 23:07:37 GMT -7
I don't really like some of these jokes, but I start to believe that the rule of celibacy needs to be lifted. Catholic church had it also to make it cheaper to have a priest without the family, still, it looks that this is not really a good idea. When I was watching Siekierski's film, one of the bishop said that we are born in the sinn, which was his excuse for the priests. I think, that so called original sinn cannot justify this type of secual abuse of minors. Jaga, the only joke I really like about celibacy is the first one I heard. It seems an old monk spent his life in the downstairs scriptorum, just copying and illuminating old books (before Gutenberg's press). One day he came racing up the stairway, shouting "I found it! I found it! The word is "celebrate, not celibate!" The other jokes I posted are just interesting ones I found in a search to see what is out there. Kai P.S. as for serious theology, I suspect much of details like this has more to do with human determination that "my view is the one true view" than what a God, who can create the complicated universe, would demand in such intimate detail of his creatures. Can such a god even exist under the roof of one church only, or one narrow theology only?
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Post by Jaga on Jun 3, 2019 22:21:33 GMT -7
Kai, yes, the joke with monk racing up the stairway is the best. Some other jokes are too brutal.
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