NATO defeated by Trump?

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German media indicates NATO's collapse
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After the US announced that they were withdrawing from the INF treaty and after Russia mirrored this decision, which became a significant "psychological success" for Vladimir Putin, NATO found itself in a difficult situation. This is stated in an article by Alexander Will, entitled "Russia-NATO 1: 0", which was published in the German magazine Nordwest-Zeitung.

“NATO is a step away from disintegration when it comes to the issue of armaments. The German political sphere also has cracks, ”says a journalist.

The author also recalled that the Prime Minister of Lower Saxony, Stephan Weil, stated that a new movement was needed to defend the world.

At the same time, the Secretary General of the Social Democratic Party of Germany, Lars Klingbeil, described the deployment of US missiles in Europe in response to the alleged presence of Russians in the area as "wrong direction" and stated that he disagrees with the policies of both countries.


US President Donald Trump announced on February 2 that the INF Treaty will be terminated if Russia fails to resume full and controllable compliance within six months. What he meant was that Russia would destroy all its missiles and equipment.

First of all, it is a rocket 9M729. However, Moscow has repeatedly stated that its reach does not exceed the set limits and has provided all information, including all characteristics, about it. However, the United States continues to demand its destruction.

NATO Allies supported Trump's decision by saying that Washington had taken this step in response to allegedly "significant risks to Euro-Atlantic security" posed by Russian missiles.

Russian President Vladimir Putin said Russia was mirroring the US decision to withdraw from the INF, and was also suspending its participation in the treaty. The President further pointed out that Russia should not and should not be involved in expensive arms races.

The situation around the INF Treaty has raised serious concerns around the world. Finland even called on Moscow and Washington to continue the dialogue on strategic stability. Switzerland said it hopes that the countries will be able to maintain this treaty, which Switzerland has identified as a major element of European security.

Source: www.hlavnespravy.sk/nemecke-media-prezumuju-rozpad-nato/1660525

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NWZ-KOMMENTAR ZUR ATOM-RÜSTUNG
Russland-Nato: 1:0
Alexander Will

Der Westen streitet über die Konsequenzen aus dem Ende des Atomwaffenvertrages mit Moskau. Deutschland ist politisch gespalten. Das ist bereits ein Riesenerfolg für Wladimir Putin, schreibt NWZ-Nachrichtenchef Alexander Will.

OLDENBURG Eins ist am Tag drei der Kündigung des Mittelstreckenraketen-Vertrages (INF) schon einmal sonnenklar: Der alte Fuchs Wladimir Putin hat einen wichtigen psychologischen Erfolg zu verbuchen. Die Nato ist dabei, sich über die Frage einer Nachrüstung zu spalten, und in Deutschland geht der Riss quer durch die politische Landschaft.

Niedersachsens Ministerpräsident Stephan Weil ruft nach einer „neuen Friedensbewegung“. SPD-Generalsekretär Klingbeil hält US-Waffen als Antwort auf die bereits existierenden russischen für den „falschen Weg“ und wirft Trump und Putin in den gleichen politischen Topf. Die Union will hingegen keine Reaktion ausschließen. Recht hat sie! Wer nämlich – wie das die SPD tut – von vornherein eine Option begräbt, der gibt sich in die Fänge des Gegners, weil er sich der Handlungsmöglichkeiten beraubt.

Ganz zu schweigen von der Frage, was wohl Balten und Polen zu derartigem Defätismus sagen werden. Dort kann man sich noch gut an die Zeiten unter russischer Knute erinnern. Die Deutschen – und vor allem die SPD-Genossen – müssen jetzt klar Stellung beziehen. Die Zeit des Hoffens und Lavierens ist vorbei.

Zudem bleibt ja die historische Lehre: Harte Nato-Reaktionen auf sowjetische Rüstungsprovokationen haben einst zunächst zum INF-Vertrag und dann zum wirtschaftlichen Zusammenbruch des Kommunismus geführt. Der rüstete sich schlicht selbst tot.

In Deutschland sollte man sich jetzt jedoch zu allererst überlegen, ob es wirklich eine gute Idee ist, sich energiepolitisch von einem Land abhängig zu machen, das uns mit Atomwaffen bedroht. Ist die Nordstream-Gasleitung nicht vielmehr ein Sicherheitsrisiko? Die „Energiewende“ hat nun mit diesen Fragen eine strategische, sicherheitsrelevante Bedeutung gewonnen, über die geredet werden muss.

[pieter]

If NATO will be dissolved I hope that the English speaking Western nations USA, Great-Britain, Canada, Australia and New Zealand will form a new military alliance. South-Korea and Japan should be part of that alliance. And I hope Poland too.

[karl]

Of late seems as a smoke screen of another operation with the concentration of Mr. Vladimir Putin and what his intentions are. For Mr. Trump, the man is some what simple, for his focus seems to most always be in buisness and profits. He hates the new pipeline for the reason it took away his argument of Western Europe to purchase compressed earth gas from US sources, at an higher cost. Now, he wishes to reduce US cost of NATO operations with the refusal of agreement of EU to up the member price of belonging.

What he is hiding is a situation the Americans are faced with Turkey. For they {Americans} have their storage of the non-existence Nuclear weapons in storage at the US controled Incirlik Turkey Airbase. This base is close to the City of Adana which is home to various Islamic groups. At the moment, there has been of Americans moved to the base for their protection and safety.

Then of course, Mr. Vladimir Putin is no angel and worse, he stands up to the recent American administration in as well as the previous ones. With the past Obama Presidential Administration he could bluff him around.

What would be a nice cost evaluation would be to remove those American bases out of Germany in as well those non-existant Nuclear weapons to be placed else where. The war has been over of this 70 plus years and there is no need of an accupational military on German Soil. If then to find it absolutly necessary for American bases in Europe, France is just next door and they would love the income that comes with those bases and accompanied support and services.

But then, perhaps my self still carry the sensativity of post war Cuxhaven with dodging visiting American solders that hated our guts with exception of German ladies. But then also, whilst growing up in Dänmark, we had the British occupational military, but also their respect.

It would so appear that although my self have doubted our Chancellor for her memories of her former home in the former DDR. Perhaps we are simular peas in the pod with my self as chief resister of that relationship.

Karl