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Post by justjohn on Nov 15, 2007 6:28:24 GMT -7
But it does reference the US AmbasSador to Poland so, here goes: Dominatrix Who Claimed S&M Sex With Bush Said MissingBy Jon Ponder 11-15-7 Leola McConnell, the former dominatrice and militant for civil equality for people of all sexual orientations - who claimed in her memoir, "Lustful Utterances," www.lustfulutterances.com/ to have had S&M sex with George Bush in the 1980s - is feared by friends to be missing, according to this report: "I hide from no man. I fear no mortal man of flesh and blood, regardless of the title he wears." Leola McConnell Several people who regularly communicate with her have told us they have not heard from her in a few weeks, and attempts by us to reach her have been unsuccessful to date. McConnell had told friends recently that she was growing increasingly concerned that her allegations about politicos who had used her services would somehow cause her harm. Ominously, in a defiant email last spring, McConnell wrote: "A recent article in a tabloid newspaper, The Globe, claimed I was in hiding in fear for my life. Well, I hide from no man. I fear no mortal man of flesh and blood, regardless of the title he wears." McConnell also claims to have firsthand knowledge that Bush had an affair in the mid-1980s with Victor Ashe, the former mayor of Knoxville, Tenn., who has served as the Bush's ambassador to Poland since 2004. In an article about McConnell's book last month, I wrote, "What is evident is that McConnell has no hard copy evidence that she whipped the future president and called him bad names. Proof of this: She is neither fabulously wealthy and quiet nor dead." I hope I was wrong - on all counts.
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Post by valpomike on Nov 15, 2007 8:36:39 GMT -7
John,
You were correct, that should not be posted. Why would anyone look for dirt on a good man? If you want dirt, look to the Clinton's.
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Post by Mary on Nov 15, 2007 20:56:58 GMT -7
John, You were correct, that should not be posted. Why would anyone look for dirt on a good man? If you want dirt, look to the Clinton's. I agree! George Bush is a good and moral man, The Clintons are scary to say the least. Look into their backgrounds. There is a trail of "disappearing" friends. Hillary is a very scary, dangerous woman. Mary
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Post by kaima on Nov 15, 2007 21:19:16 GMT -7
I am not at all sure of George Bush being a good and moral man, Mary. My concept of morality goes beyond sex and includes Justice, truth and fairness. Taking our country into war on false pretenses I find to be highly immoral For a self-proclaimed Christian, he seems to have naught a single drop of Christian charity in his heart. Torture comes across too much as the antithesis of Christianity, and here we are echoing the Inquisition all over. Only today it is our country that is leading the way. That to me is immorality!
On sexual issues, what he does is his private business, and if we do talk about it then we should not let it enter into politics. That would apply to Clinton as well. I would rather have Clinton play with his girls and Bush play with leather and whips rather than have a frustrated president who will take us all into the house of horrors we created in Iraq.
Kai
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Post by Jaga on Nov 15, 2007 22:47:53 GMT -7
John, You were correct, that should not be posted. Why would anyone look for dirt on a good man? If you want dirt, look to the Clinton's. I agree! George Bush is a good and moral man, The Clintons are scary to say the least. Look into their backgrounds. There is a trail of "disappearing" friends. Hillary is a very scary, dangerous woman. Mary Hello Mary, I remember I went to South Texas to see my parents in law and one of the first things he tried to convince me is that Bill Clinton is a murderer because he killed a man! This urban story about killing the man, a friend of the family by Clinton.... was never proved. Why Hillary Clinton is scary for you? By the way, Laura Bush did kill a man in a car accident as a girl. She did not go to prison at all for this. This is a fact, not an urban story. Even my pro-republican mother in law from Texas knows about it (since it happened in Texas): www.snopes.com/politics/bush/laura.asp By the way look at these "good and moral" republican men: Guliani - 3 wives, cheated on the second with the third before divorce Newt Gingrich - cheated on the second wife during the same time, he was on the top of Republicans accusing Clinton Fred Thomson - does not go to church too often, have a new wife, 24 years younger, not the first one of course. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++ You would tell me probably that in this case, it does not matter that they have some moral issues, the most important is that they would make a good president. Now, look at these scary Clintons - why are they that bad in your mind? During Bill Clinton administration the economy was booming, we did not have unnecessary and costly wars. Why Hillary is such a scary woman?
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Post by Jaga on Nov 15, 2007 22:53:45 GMT -7
This is how extreme right wing portrait Hillary: it happened in 2006: Rev. Jerry Falwell saying he hopes Sen. Hillary Clinton runs for president in 2008 because "if Lucifer ran, he wouldn't do what she can do" to energize his constituency. Below is Hillary Clinton caught with a scary face I guess, some prefer not very smart but a president with honest face, who started two wars, changed surplus to a huge definite, but he is such a nice fellow...
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Post by pieter on Nov 16, 2007 6:22:51 GMT -7
Victor Ashe
Early career
Ashe was born in Knoxville, Tennessee, where he attended public school. He graduated from Yale University in 1967 with a BA in history, and in 1974 obtained his law degree from the University of Tennessee College of Law. During his tenure at Yale Ashe was also a member of the Skull and Bones Society, the Brotherhood of Death, alongside his former roommate and fellow cheerleader, George W. Bush. Before becoming an elected official, Ashe worked as an intern for Congressman Bill Brock, and as a staff assistant for Senator Howard Baker. In 1968 Ashe was elected to the Tennessee House of Representatives; he was only 23 years old at the time. The minimum age for state legislators was 30, so the Tennessee Supreme Court stripped Ashe of that position. Ashe appointed his mother to replace him in the legislature. Any disqualified person who takes office is guilty of a criminal misdemeanor. In 1975 he filled a State Senate seat held by his unelected mother, Martha Ashe; he was later elected to the position and served for nine years. He ran unsuccessfully for the U.S. Senate in 1984 against future Vice-President Al Gore. From 1967 to 1973, during the Vietnam War, Ashe was a member of the US Marine Corps Air Reserves. He was also the Executive Director of the Americans Outdoors Commission from 1985 until 1987.
Mayor
Ashe was elected to be the mayor of Knoxville in November, 1987. He served 16 years as mayor, the longest term in the city’s history. As mayor, Ashe led several initiatives to improve Knoxville’s civic and financial footing. These initiatives focused on such things as waterfront development along the Tennessee River and the building of a convention center to attract tourism and business. The latter was a cause for controversy, with many residents saying that the city of Knoxville did not offer enough amenities to attract would-be events or shows to a convention center. Other initiatives included downtown redevelopment and sign and billboard control. Ashe stressed diversity within his administration, noting when he left office the growth of minorities and women on commissions and boards during his time as mayor. While Ashe often had the support of the city council, he was unable to get it to institute a Police Advisory Review Committee to perform as a civilian review of police action, something which, in 1998, he felt was necessary to investigate the questionable deaths of three black men at the hands of police officers. At the time, hostility in the black community toward the police department was extremely high due to these deaths. Ashe circumvented the council and established the committee by executive order. Three years later, the council unanimously ratified the order, defusing growing protests for recall elections for Ashe and other councilors. After African-American city councilor Danny Mayfield died while in office, many felt that his widow deserved that seat. Mayor Ashe moved to appoint Raleigh Wynn, instead, in retaliation for Mayfield campaigning for mayor. The night it all came down I could not stop shivering. It changed the way I viewed a lot of things. For the first time, sitting on Council [with mayor Victor Ashe], I really felt I was in the presence of evil. I had disagreed with people on many occasions and felt strongly about many things, but I never ever had felt something I could describe as the presence of evil. Until that night. There was just darkness. Hopelessness. But never, until Danny's death and the appointment of someone other than his wife, and knowing the orchestration that took place to make it happen, did I realize that I could never again go back to that body without carrying with me my belief that they were capable of the worst possible actions. —City Councilwoman Carlene Malone, Metro Pulse, Malone Alone, December 13, 2001 Malone eventually sued mayor Ashe and city council, for holding secret meetings in violation of Tennessee Open Meetings Act. Mayor Ashe was sued for political retaliation against firefighters. Ashe was cited for contempt of court, for telling a TV news crew that he won the civil rights lawsuit, which was a misrepresentation of the judge's order. Felony criminal charges were also filed against Mayor Ashe, for his role in approving car-theft and extortion rackets run by city wrecker contractors. As a result, Ashe and city council terminated the contracts of five towing contractors, banned them for five years from future contracts, and filed a class action lawsuit against them, in his final week in office.
Parkland and Public Domain
As mayor, Ashe sometimes acquired land for city redevelopment projects from those unwilling to sell, saying that the needs of the community come before private property rights. He also noted that private owners of unused or undeveloped land within the city of Knoxville often chose to turn their land over to shopping centers or apartment complexes, and that these actions often caused the city to grow too quickly for services to keep up. Ashe also favored preserving buildings that had possible historic value, at one point threatening to put historic zoning restrictions on a building its owners wished to demolish. Some of the land acquired by the city during Ashe’s time as mayor was used for public parks, a service which may not have been offered had the land remained in private hands. During Ashe's mayoral tenure, parkland in Knoxville was increased from 700 to 1,700 acres (7 km²) and 30 miles (48 km) of greenway was added, some of it acquired by the city from unwilling sellers. At a dedication of a public park acquired in such a way after he had left the mayor's office, Ashe was candid about such methods, saying This is how the public acquires land, and …hard decisions [must be made] to move the community forward. Ashe was a strong supporter of parkland in the city. He initiated a program called Penny for the Parks to create a trust fund that would use a one cent tax and federal matching money to commit $250,000 a year for city parks, greenways and historic preservation. After leaving office, Ashe was awarded a Cornelius Amory Pugsley Medal, which was granted by the American Academy for Park and Recreation Administration in recognition of his work on greenways and public parks.
Ambassador to Poland
Ashe was sworn in as a US ambassador to Poland in June 2004; during Ashe's tenure as mayor of Knoxville he, acting on the advice of Dr. Marek Pienkowski, helped to establish a sister-city relationship with the city of Chelm, Poland, and led two delegations to that city. One of the issues Ashe engaged in when he was appointed ambassador to Poland was the difficulty Poles have getting work and tourist visas for the United States. After Ashe met with President Bush and Polish President Aleksander Kwasniewski in Washington in 2005, Bush suggested that the visa rejection rate for Poles be lowered. Ashe has also noted that Poland has a growing economy which offers many opportunities for US businesses. He is interested in having his own area of Knoxville and East Tennessee take advantage of such opportunities, and in 2005 advised a group of 16 Knoxville-area businesses to put together a trade mission to Poland. Ashe is ambassador during the investigations into rendition, kidnapping and torture by the United States Central Intelligence Agency, at Black sites in Poland. CIA is traditionally based in the United States embassy, which is traditionally used as a cover story for covert operations involving terrorism and narcotics trafficking, under orders of the White House.
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Post by pieter on Nov 16, 2007 6:42:49 GMT -7
I know one former Dominatrix, a fascinating lady who had clients under influential German businessmen, rulers and politicians in Germany when she stil lived and worked in Hamburg. It is amazing to see how the mighty and powerful are or can be. There are extreme cases, which see no daylinght and publicity!
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Post by Jaga on Nov 16, 2007 9:55:51 GMT -7
Pieter,
thanks for this post. Here is a bit more about pres. Bush nominees, among them the embassadors to Poland and Hungary. The Hungarian embassador dated Bush in the past:
From Parade:
Bush Buddies Represent U.S. Abroad Our country sends ambassadors to almost every nation in the world. Most of these men and women are diplomats who¡¦ve spent their careers working in the foreign service. However, regardless of whether the President is a Democrat or a Republican, about one-third of our ambassadors are nondiplomats who are either friends of the Chief Executive or major political donors. Some current examples:
„h U.S. Ambassador to Australia Robert McCallum was a member with Bush of Skull & Bones at Yale. „h U.S. Ambassador to Belize Robert Dieter was one of Bush¡¦s roommates at Yale. „h U.S. Ambassador to Poland Victor Ashe was a close friend of Bush¡¦s at Yale and also a member of Skull & Bones. „h U.S. Ambassador to Hungary April Foley dated George Bush at Harvard Business School, according to press reports. „h U.S. Ambassador to Sweden Michael Wood was Bush¡¦s friend at prep school and his frat brother at Yale. „h U.S. Ambassador to China Clark Randt was also a frat brother at Yale. „h U.S. Ambassador to Japan Thomas Schieffer was Bush¡¦s partner when he owned the Texas Rangers.
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Post by valpomike on Nov 16, 2007 12:33:32 GMT -7
Jaga,
This has been the case for years, but with the Clinton's in office, it was who he sleeped with, or wanted to.
Mike
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Post by rdywenur on Nov 16, 2007 13:43:12 GMT -7
Bush a good and moral man...all this tells me is we have a bunch of dyhard blind republicans amongst us.
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Post by Jaga on Nov 16, 2007 16:04:32 GMT -7
Jaga, This has been the case for years, but with the Clinton's in office, it was who he sleeped with, or wanted to. Mike Hello Mike, Bill Clinton was not a puritan but he did not even sleep with Lewinsky. The girl was easy and was just wrapping herself around him. How many Republican men would repeal away such an easy win? Being a good president is mainly about ruling the country. Since pres. Bush seems to be incompetent as a president, people try to defend him saying that at least he is a good man. Pres. Clinton was a good president and a competent one, therefore there are attempts to see him as a bad person, but the truth is - all these accusations - nobody proved anything (White water, suicide of the friend) except overblowed Lewinsky's story.
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Post by Mary on Nov 16, 2007 20:23:35 GMT -7
Bush a good and moral man...all this tells me is we have a bunch of dyhard blind republicans amongst us. Ahhhhh... Isn't it great that we can have a difference of opinion and voice them freely in this great country of ours?! A couple of questions to ponder; (1) After the attacks of 9/11, what would you think of our Commander in Chief (regardless of republican or democrat) if he did nothing? Take your hearts and minds back to that day. What did you want then? Is not our Commander and Chief sworn to protect the citizens of this country? (I live in Pennsylvania, not far from the site of the plane taken down by brave citizens before it got to Washington, DC. Consider the source, please) (2) What do you think of the Homeland Security Act? Should we take steps to protect ourselves and our families or just take what comes? (3) What did Clinton do after the attack of the USS Cole? Particulary after it wad determined this was an attack by al Queda? And at the time he was told exactly where Ben Laden was and taking him out was a real option. How many lives on 9/11 might have been spared? Can we just sit idly by until our children and grandchildren are obliterated? (3) Should we elect a president with a backbone or one who puts his (or her) finger in the wind to see what way the public opinion is blowing? (4) How many people looked the other way when Hitler started his campaign of terror? What if he were stopped earlier? (I know I would have not lost a lot of family members, how about you?) I would rather have a president with convictions, even if I don't agree with all his or her opinions, than one who is more concerened with popularity. The history books are full of presidents who were scorned during times of war, but later hailed as great leaders. I guess we will have to live long enough to see how Bush fairs. And by the way, I am registered independant, I vote for the best candidate in my opinion, not a party. And I do vote! Every election, not just the presidential. How about you? My only gripe is with those who criticize our governent and don't bother to be educated on the issues and get their butts out to vote. Mary
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Post by Mary on Nov 16, 2007 20:48:48 GMT -7
Sorry, I forgot to mention something new.
Tonight the news had a report from the UN, IAE. It seems Iran has at least 3,000 centrafuges capable of producing a nuclear weapon within a year. and that it is felt that they are still withholding information on exactly what nuclear facilities they really have.
Mary
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Post by Jaga on Nov 16, 2007 23:00:13 GMT -7
Ahhhhh... Isn't it great that we can have a difference of opinion and voice them freely in this great country of ours?! I agree During Soviet Union times we could not discuss things so freely. (1) After the attacks of 9/11, what would you think of our Commander in Chief (regardless of republican or democrat) if he did nothing? Take your hearts and minds back to that day. What did you want then? Is not our Commander and Chief sworn to protect the citizens of this country? (I live in Pennsylvania, not far from the site of the plane taken down by brave citizens before it got to Washington, DC. Consider the source, please) Going to Afghanistan was the right thing to do. Going to Iraq took the forces from Afghanistan therefore Bin Laden is still free. Iraq had NOTHING to do with AlQueda and 9-11. (2) What do you think of the Homeland Security Act? Should we take steps to protect ourselves and our families or just take what comes? I am not sure. Maybe it has some positives from defense point of view but it also have negatives. The negatives are the following: it limits the rights of the individuals and strenghten the totalitarian government - thus Bush administration is more Soviet-like than the previous one (3) What did Clinton do after the attack of the USS Cole? Particulary after it wad determined this was an attack by al Queda? And at the time he was told exactly where Ben Laden was and taking him out was a real option. How many lives on 9/11 might have been spared? Can we just sit idly by until our children and grandchildren are obliterated? What should pres. Clinton do after the attack of USS Cole? Should America attack Jemen? Republicans were ALL involved to try to impeach him. My question to you: Did impeachment pocess made America safer and more secure? Referring to Bin Laden: My understanding is that the attack on Bin Laden would cause many civilians deaths. Who knew that Bin Laden will cause so much disaster? Why pres. Bush eliminated the position of anti-terrorist unit? Why he did have the longest vacations from any president? Why he did not even remember to be briefed about the terror danger in summer? I have heard that "Bin Laden was delivered to Clinton on the golden tray". The truth is that Clinton would have to do the attack in another country. He claims that he did not know exactly where Bin Laden was. When the US went to Afghanistan they had opportunity to attack Bin Laden here and in Pakistan but they decided to outsource it to mujahedins. (3) Should we elect a president with a backbone or one who puts his (or her) finger in the wind to see what way the public opinion is blowing? No, but the president should LISTEN to other people, politicians, foreign advisors not only to a NARROW CIRCLE OF LOYAL FRIENDS and big corporations. (4) How many people looked the other way when Hitler started his campaign of terror? What if he were stopped earlier? (I know I would have not lost a lot of family members, how about you?) Hitler invaded a half of Europe and the US was still not ready to go to war. They woke up after Pearl Harbour. American attack to Iraq was pre-emptive. Saddam was not willing to attack any other countries nor he built any new weapons. I would rather have a president with convictions, even if I don't agree with all his or her opinions, than one who is more concerened with popularity. What do you mean "strong convictions"? Iraq and Iran had nothing to do with Alqueda. Saudi Arabia and Egypt produces more terrorists than any other countries. So I just do not know what justifies going after these two countries except the fact that they were not our friends. Does "strong convictions" means that if this president believes in something he does not change its mind? he does not listen to anybody else. He does not want to try to solve conflicts dyplomatically but rashes to wars? Iran has no any history of attacking its neighbors. It was Iraq that attacked Iran and Rumsfeld (friend of Bush and his old co-worker) was the one who praised Iraq for it initially. Iran let to use its airspace to the US in American invasion of Iraq. The history books are full of presidents who were scorned during times of war, but later hailed as great leaders. I guess we will have to live long enough to see how Bush fairs. and the economy in crisis, 0.5 trillions dollars spent for the war. I really do not see any intellectual wisdom in the current president and his actions only a loyalty to his friends. He also believes that it is easier to go to war than try to solve the conflicts by dyplomacy. He does not LISTEN and does not try to understand the complexity of the world, he would like to divide the world into black (terrorists) and white (we). I do not think that he knows enough to commit the US to all these conflicts. He spent the majority of his time in the farm in Texas. I really do not see a big effort from him to understand his enemies. Tonight the news had a report from the UN, IAE. It seems Iran has at least 3,000 centrafuges capable of producing a nuclear weapon within a year. and that it is felt that they are still withholding information on exactly what nuclear facilities they really have. Mary,I do not know where did you take your data from. It is very suspicious. Iran shared data with UN. I heard and read several reports that Iran is not closer than 12 years to be able to enrich Uranium to the level of nuclear capabilities. From what I understand they do not even have enough capabilities to enrich uranium (I guess this is about 5%) to use for reactor. For the nuclear had you need 90%! But one thing for sure. Iran has much lower nuclear capabilities than India, Pakistan or Israel. Why Iran should be unable to have any nuclear capabilities whereas all these other countries do? Iran is a big country, so what is the logic of not letting Iran to have any nuclear power in the same time allowing others to have it?
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