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Post by Jaga on Dec 7, 2005 18:28:53 GMT -7
Quiz - when is the earliest sunset on the Northern hemisphere?
I bet many of you would be surprised! It is not ... when you think it is! IT is not at the end of December
We have even a phrase for it in Polish but... I do not recollect exactly its words
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Post by kaima on Dec 7, 2005 19:52:31 GMT -7
I will not take the pleasure away from someone else, but may I passon a hint? James Mitchener covered it in his book "Alaska" - and he got it WRONG!
Well, right and wrong.
Kai
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Post by justjohn on Dec 8, 2005 5:39:04 GMT -7
Pearl Harbour Day
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Post by bescheid on Dec 8, 2005 11:27:42 GMT -7
I have not a clue..... Just a wild guess, I am fairly sure it is prior to winter solstice though, well, I think it must be some where in the early part of December, just not sure.
Charles
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Post by Jaga on Dec 8, 2005 13:12:56 GMT -7
I have not a clue..... Just a wild guess, I am fairly sure it is prior to winter solstice though, well, I think it must be some where in the early part of December, just not sure. Charles Charles, When I was a teaching assistant in Astronomy class in Texas I was suprised because some of the students did not even realize that the day is SHORTER in winter than in summer. I guess, with these latitudes (Fort Worth ~ 32) you just do not notice any change through the year!
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Post by bescheid on Dec 8, 2005 14:47:27 GMT -7
Jaga
You have me going there on this. I think it was some years back while taking survival course, this came across for checking compass directions and determining time while out in the field. It just stuck in my mind is all.
I bet Astronomy was interesting. It is amazing how the course of travell of the earth, in relationship with the sun, wobbles and not exactly striaght in travell. That would interesting learning of our star system and the interelationship.
Did you guys discuss the Big Bang thery?
Charles
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Post by Jaga on Dec 8, 2005 19:28:56 GMT -7
Guys,
there is a couple of days in year - it starts on december 6 and it ends I believe on dec 12 when the sunrise is the earliest - after dec 12 - on Dec 13 which is Santa Lucia day there is more and more daytime in the evening!
Here is Polish proverb about it:
13 XII Œwiêta £ucya dnia przyrzuca.
Santa Lucia ads more daytime
Charles - what are German proverbs about the weather, do you remember any?
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Post by bescheid on Dec 9, 2005 10:29:59 GMT -7
Hi Jaga
Sorry for the lateness in reply, I must shut down too soon / too early and miss the post.
Germany is the land I think, of weather proverbs, fairy tails. river spirits and Wagner. Also the land of," Brothers Grimms Märchen (Grimms Fairy Tales).
At the moment, I can only recall just a very few:
There is sunshine after every rainfall (Auf jeden Regen folgt auch Sonnenschein)
The May makes everything new (Alles neu macht der Mai)
Coming out of the rain into the trough (Da Kommt man vom Regen in die Traufe) American version would be," out of the frying pan, into the fire".
One of my favourites is one that I use, even though it has not much to do with rain. But, life and just do it! As follows: Der appeitit Kommt beim Essen. (litteral in english: The appetite comes while eating.
English and German are some what confusing when directly compared. German is easier and more straight forward. And English has no letter marking for pronounciation, very difficult and must just be memorized.
Just my personal observation as not a learned person.
Charles
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Post by bescheid on Dec 9, 2005 10:36:20 GMT -7
Jaga
I have a question: how do you keep track of the topics you have commented on or added a post reply. Then refind those topic replys to read the answre?
I have tryed to first read the last 10 replys and still miss some. Now, I keep a running log of all post I have replied on to keep on tract. My system is cumbersom and there must be a better way.
Charles
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Post by Jaga on Dec 9, 2005 10:45:17 GMT -7
Charles,
I do not have a very good way of keeping track of the most important topics. I guess, there is a way to get a reply to any e-mail you wrote if I post through the "quote" feature, but I do not always do it.
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Post by bescheid on Dec 9, 2005 10:57:44 GMT -7
Jaga
Thanks now, well, I guess perhaps the log is the most obvious manner. I have a clip board with recycled printer paper (means the paper has gone through the printer once, with the other side blanke). And, I use that for writing on, then it goes into the shredder box
Keeps possible looky see people from digging out any thing interesting in the trash.
Charles
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Post by rdywenur on Dec 9, 2005 11:12:06 GMT -7
I just click on a name and you can change the 10 last post to as many numbers you want and they pull up. Would that help you at all.
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Post by bescheid on Dec 9, 2005 16:12:22 GMT -7
RDY
You are an angle!!! I am such a dunder head, I had not even thought about that excellent idea!
Thank you......
Charles
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Post by Jaga on Dec 9, 2005 22:19:02 GMT -7
Hi Jaga Sorry for the lateness in reply, I must shut down too soon / too early and miss the post. Germany is the land I think, of weather proverbs, fairy tails. river spirits and Wagner. Also the land of," Brothers Grimms Märchen (Grimms Fairy Tales). At the moment, I can only recall just a very few: There is sunshine after every rainfall (Auf jeden Regen folgt auch Sonnenschein) The May makes everything new (Alles neu macht der Mai) Coming out of the rain into the trough (Da Kommt man vom Regen in die Traufe) American version would be," out of the frying pan, into the fire". One of my favourites is one that I use, even though it has not much to do with rain. But, life and just do it! As follows: Der appeitit Kommt beim Essen. (litteral in english: The appetite comes while eating. English and German are some what confusing when directly compared. German is easier and more straight forward. And English has no letter marking for pronounciation, very difficult and must just be memorized. Just my personal observation as not a learned person. Charles Charles, thanks for an interesting response. You know we have in Polish some equivalents of german proverbs. Now i find it really strange that your reply seems to be earlier in listing than my response to your other question. I can swear I did not see your reply here when I posted my next message Time is really relative, now i understand better Einstein theory!
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Post by kaima on Dec 10, 2005 15:22:43 GMT -7
aa.usno.navy.mil/data/docs/RS_OneYear.htmlWill give the sunrise and sunset for anywhere you wish to identify. I chose Allakaket, Alaska, as I spent a summer there and the BLM surveyors surveyed in the "Arctic Circle", which that year split the village runway. So the village is right on the Arctic Circle. Sometimes. We all learn in grade school that the earth wobbles around its axis as it spins, but perhaps we forget or are not taught that that causes the Arctic Circle to wobble and change as well! Now I figured that the earliest sunrise would -whoops, sunset - would come shortly after 12:00 noon in the vicinity of the arctic circle. Instead at Allakaket the earliest sunset is listed at 14:13 (2:13 PM) around Dec 18-20. Sunrise is at 12:02 on the 18th. Just a bit north of there at Arctic Village you can see they are north of the arctic circle and have more than 24 hours of darkness from Dec 6 to Jan 3. Jaga, where or how did you calculate Dec 13 St Lucia day as the shortest? Oh, and thanks, I'll send off an email today to a Slovak Lucia, wishing her a happy name day! Her dad should read it Monday. Now on the "Michener mistake" in his book, he had some whalers stranded over winter north of the arctic circle, saved by local Eskimos. Then the first sunrise came in the spring time and "the sun rose in the east". No, the sun would rise in the south and set in the south. It is amazing to experience this when we come up for the first time! Ok Jaga, does all that add up, or did I err? Kai
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