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Post by Jaga on Aug 24, 2007 18:41:46 GMT -7
WARSAW, Aug. 24 (Xinhua) -- The majority of Poles are still against the deployment of a U.S. anti-missile shield in their country, a survey revealed Friday.
The survey, conducted by the CBOS polling center in Warsaw, said that 56 percent of those questioned oppose installing the shield on Polish territory while 28 percent favor the plan.
Thirty-four percent thought the shield would worsen Poland's international standing and 32 percent said it would weaken Poland's position in the EU, the poll said.
Seventy percent complained that the Polish government has not informed the public enough about the missile shield.
The CBOS poll was conducted from Aug. 3-6 and 859 people were questioned.
A similar poll in July put opposition against the shield at 55 percent and support at 28 percent.
The United States wants to deploy part of its missile defense shield in eastern Europe -- a radar system in the Czech Republic and a missile interceptor site in Poland.
Polish-U.S. talks on the possible deployment have been ongoing since May.
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Post by bescheid on Aug 25, 2007 8:00:54 GMT -7
Jaga
I think perhaps this returns to the vast differences between the actual feelings of the Polish public {vast assumption} and that of the currant Warsaw Government.
The missile shield idea is of that of Mr. Bush. It is a tool used as a technique to separate and divide out, Poland from the EU organization. It is simply a power play.
For it has not escaped the attention of Mr. Bush, that unity means consolidated power in numbers, and numbers is the sum total of EU States, a United Europe. With this unity, a combined sum of states with relative agreement, will swing not only a very real and present power in economics, but in trade relations.
Poland is the unity standard between the East and The West. Between three majour European powers of: France, Germany and Russia. This is what the fears of Mr. Bush is about, for a consolidation of these European powers, would in effect, remove the American shadow of world power, out of Europe.
Take not my words, but take that of reality of the currant/present/and the near future. For this is not a challenge of world power, but a requirement of European sovereignty with out fear of retaliation by non-European powers. This would be in the economic sense with military overtures.
For the advantage of European Unity, has previously begin, it will continue to this eventual end. A common wealth of European States.
My words here, should never be construed as a challenge or demeaning to the Americans. But, only of the words of a man of no significants, just a reader of the words written upon the wall.
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Post by rdywenur on Aug 25, 2007 8:59:02 GMT -7
Well if I lived in Poland I would not want an anti missile station from USA or any country for that matter. Nothing like making yourself and instant target.
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Post by hollister on Aug 25, 2007 10:23:22 GMT -7
Chris, Heaven knows I am not a proponent of the missile shield - but your logic here is a bit flawed. You are a target for missiles most of us in the USA are (as well as a majority of the world) I saw a graphic a while back that showed where various countries have missiles aimed and the ONLY region not targeted are the poles and a small swath in Central America. Just because the Cold War was/is over doesn't mean that missile are not targeted at us or we at them. Remember we just reduced the number - Why have 5 when one will do?
The perceived threat to Poland is Russia and right now, Poland would be protected from Russian missiles as they lie in the overfly zone - they are simply too close for accurate targeting.
Hollister - stirring the pot AGAIN ;D
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Post by bescheid on Aug 25, 2007 17:07:46 GMT -7
Chris, Heaven knows I am not a proponent of the missile shield - but your logic here is a bit flawed. You are a target for missiles most of us in the USA are (as well as a majority of the world) I saw a graphic a while back that showed where various countries have missiles aimed and the ONLY region not targeted are the poles and a small swath in Central America. Just because the Cold War was/is over doesn't mean that missile are not targeted at us or we at them. Remember we just reduced the number - Why have 5 when one will do? The perceived threat to Poland is Russia and right now, Poland would be protected from Russian missiles as they lie in the overfly zone - they are simply too close for accurate targeting. Hollister - stirring the pot AGAIN ;D Holly Please continue to stir up the pot, and keep it on the boil... For I should not be surprised of your knowledge and insight of military equipment and strategic command for you are of a military family. You are very correct with your analysis of missile tactics and use. {as if I knew it all. I am just an has been} but it would be impractical for missile use from Russia for such a sharp angle of launch and descend. For that matter, very dangerous for prevailing wind drift back onto the Russian home land. But, not so impractical for combined operations of air-cover for rapid ground assault. For the Russians learnt their lessens well from us in the last war. For as this question of Russian aggression, is rather remote and academic. But, not out of the question of strategic planning. Whilst in military service, this very question was broached whilst in training exercises. The lessens of the Spanish war in as with the continent, are not lost, in tactics and administration. Just the equipment, technical expertise, technology and times have changed. In as the present, it is the protection of the common good for the sake of our way of life. Interesting.. Charles
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