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Post by Jaga on Sept 14, 2008 7:54:08 GMT -7
I almost completely stopped watching Fox News since their coverage of Democratic and Republican conventions were extremely biased. They were very cynical and grumpy for Democrats, they did not even wanted to pretend that they are anything but "fair and balanced". Here is one of the worst hawks from FoxNews getting upset at the guest on the show only because this person wrote a book positive to Obama and admits that American economy is in a bda shape. Hannity cannot stand that and ask the guest to leave: www.newshounds.us/2008/09/11/hannity_has_a_bullyboy_meltdown_at_suggestion_economy_is_in_trouble.phpHannity Has A Bullyboy Meltdown At Suggestion Economy Is In Trouble
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Post by pieter on Sept 14, 2008 9:07:03 GMT -7
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Post by Jaga on Sept 14, 2008 21:20:27 GMT -7
Pieter, I believe that the bias is everywhere but maybe not that obvious like here in America. Maybe people in Netherlands are unaware of many issues because nobody make them realize that they exist? Just philosophical reflection But here is more about Americans voting against their own interests: www.nytimes.com/2008/09/14/opinion/14friedman.html?_r=2&hp=&oref=slogin&pagewanted=print&oref=sloginfrom : Making America Stupid A Washington Post editorial on Thursday put it well: “On a day when the Congressional Budget Office warned of looming deficits and a grim economic outlook, when the stock market faltered even in the wake of the government’s rescue of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, when President Bush discussed the road ahead in Iraq and Afghanistan, on what did the campaign of Senator John McCain spend its energy? A conference call to denounce Senator Barack Obama for using the phrase ‘lipstick on a pig’ and a new television ad accusing the Democrat of wanting to teach kindergartners about sex before they learn to read.”
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Post by Bob S on Sept 15, 2008 9:08:01 GMT -7
I do not watch the Alphabet networks news programs because of their bias which is obvious to the most casual observer. If they reported that "The Sun Rises in the East and Sets in the West", I would have to go outside and check that their report was true. I am an unashamed fan of Glenn Beck and Hannity & Combs. ;D ;D ;D
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Post by kaima on Sept 15, 2008 9:54:28 GMT -7
One other conservative columnist asked what few others have bothered to ask: "I don't usually engage in these scenarios, but I'll do it here. If the Obamas had a 17 year-old daughter who was unmarried and pregnant by a tough-talking black kid, my guess is if that they all appeared onstage at a Democratic convention and the delegates were cheering wildly, a number of conservatives might be discussing the issue of dysfunctional black families. " Byron York, National Review corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=ZmNlZGFhNmI2Yzk1NzAzNDViM2VmZTA2NDRhN2ViN2Q
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Post by Jaga on Sept 15, 2008 23:37:03 GMT -7
nobody is taking seriously McCain ads because they are so FULL OF LIES. Read more here: McCain’s Dirty Campaign Starting To Anger The PressIt has become painfully obvious the the McCain/Palin campaign is starting to anger the press. You only have to look at CNN and other news outlets to see the constant fact checking and proven outright lies that are now common on the nightly news, to see that many are not sitting back idly and accepting the dirt and mudslinging that both candidates promised not to participate in. Let’s face it, John McCain is trying to pull the wool over our eyes. The candidate that said he would run an honorable campaign and change politics as usual, is running the biggest attempted smear campaign since McCarthyism. Even after confronted with statements from reputable sources such as FactCheck.org, who called McCain’s commercials as “Less than honest” and defiantly stated that McCain used quotes from the site that they did not say, or did not say in the manor that they were used, the McCain camp still continues to run the commercials. Even after Gov Palins trademark statement “..and I told congress thanks, but no thanks” on the bridge to nowhere was proven to be false ,and showed proof that she actually supported the bridge first and is seen with the t-shirt…they still repeat the same tired line as recently as today. (although not as commanding) Governor Palin claims that Alaska produces 20% of this county’s energy. according to the Dept of Energy, it’s actually 3.5%.John McCain has decided that we are too stupid to see the truth, and as long as he plants sensational ideas in our heads, no matter how wrong, low, or sleazy they are, it will serve to either influence your decision because…you want to believe him, or he is playing on some underlying issues in this country and playing on the fact that you want to hear terrible things about Barack Obama, so that you can have an excuse not to vote for him. Unfortunately, some of us are that stupid. If it didn’t work in the past, they wouldn’t still do it. It is apparent that the Mccain/Palin camp is out of control, when the king of the sleazy campaigns, Carl Rove, says that McCain’s ads have “gone too far”. Carl Rove ! It is also evident that the McCain platform is put together on perception and not reality. Why else would his running mate Sarah Palin be nestled under McCains arm like a new chick in the nest..far away from reporters, and only giving pre-worded speeches, repeating the same catch phrase lines over and over again all across the country. I had hoped that we would get a campaign of issues and discussions, instead we are constantly redirected by cry baby like tactics about lipstick and pigs, while the unregulated mortgage and investment companies in this country continually fold around us and drop off of the face of the earth, from lack of regulation over the last 8 years. McCain needs a reality check. He has decided to try and win the election by any means necessary. He has sold his soul, and is being led astray by the very same lobbyist running his campaign that he has sworn to protect us from if he were to be President. It is the epitome of ironies. With every sleazy tactic the his band of lobbyist pull out of their hat in dishonest sensationalism, (instead of running for President), my respect for him as a Senator and an Honored Veteran is slowly withering into disgusted pity for what seems to be an old man desperately grasping onto his last chance to be President. After so many years of service to America, what a shame for his actions during this election to forever stain what would have been an honored legacy. www.themansfieldherald.com/2008/09/mccains-dirty-campagn-starting-to-anger-the-press/
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Post by Bob S on Sept 16, 2008 8:54:35 GMT -7
;D ;D I have to believe just the opposite of what the press and media are saying. The motto of the TV Media and Press is "How Can We Fool Them Today". If there is no news to report, the media will make up their own. The media says "The Truth Be Damned, We'll Tell Them What WE Want them to Know". ;D
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Post by freetobe on Sept 16, 2008 20:40:53 GMT -7
I suggest that all truly concerned about the nation look at the issues and not the personalities. Take the media with a grain of salt. They are no better or worse with the spin they put on the candidates then the candidates support staff. Dear God this election is not about the secondary and hot button issues. It is about the disastrous state of the economy, the collapse of major financial institutions(have you checked on your banks, brokerage and insurers?). Funny isn't it that the continuing loss of American lives in the Middle East "wars" has taken a back seat to state of the average American's pocketbooks? America voted an incompetent W to eight years in the White House. Now look at what that has gotten us. The best of the lot of candidates is Joe Biden, so I have to vote for Obama and pray that Joe does a better job than Dick Cheney.
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Post by Mary on Sept 16, 2008 20:46:08 GMT -7
The best of the lot of candidates is Joe Biden, so I have to vote for Obama and pray that Joe does a better job than Dick Cheney. Hmmmm... Do you think Joe may be a better shot than Dick? A few less high priced lawyers ....and perhaps a few hundred lobbiests.... can't be a bad idea....................
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Post by freetobe on Sept 16, 2008 21:23:26 GMT -7
Mary, Are we having fun with this? Biden should be ok with you. He was born in Scranton, Pa. and is an RC. Now that the "Stir the Pot party" has almost agreed to your appointment as Director of Health and Human Services, should Uncle Tim and I be elected, we see that you are the epitome of our slogan," Don't pay attention to the real issues".
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Post by Mary on Sept 17, 2008 6:03:30 GMT -7
Mary, Are we having fun with this? Biden should be ok with you. He was born in Scranton, Pa. and is an RC. Now that the "Stir the Pot party" has almost agreed to your appointment as Director of Health and Human Services, should Uncle Tim and I be elected, we see that you are the epitome of our slogan," Don't pay attention to the real issues". Thank you for the appointment to your cabinet. I'm thrilled to be part of the "Stir the Pot Party". Always happy to serve my country!!!
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Post by Bob S on Sept 17, 2008 7:43:13 GMT -7
Mary, Are we having fun with this? Biden should be ok with you. He was born in Scranton, Pa. and is an RC. Now that the "Stir the Pot party" has almost agreed to your appointment as Director of Health and Human Services, should Uncle Tim and I be elected, we see that you are the epitome of our slogan," Don't pay attention to the real issues". ;D ;D The Pope is RC too but, that does not qualify him to be President or VP of the United States. ;D ;D
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Post by Jaga on Sept 17, 2008 10:39:49 GMT -7
;D ;D I have to believe just the opposite of what the press and media are saying. The motto of the TV Media and Press is "How Can We Fool Them Today". If there is no news to report, the media will make up their own. The media says "The Truth Be Damned, We'll Tell Them What WE Want them to Know". ;D Bob, media always stretch the truth. Think about Clinton-Lewinsky story and all this nonsense about a lie. If you do not trust media now, you should ignore them then
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Post by Bob S on Sept 17, 2008 11:48:54 GMT -7
;D ;D I have to believe just the opposite of what the press and media are saying. The motto of the TV Media and Press is "How Can We Fool Them Today". If there is no news to report, the media will make up their own. The media says "The Truth Be Damned, We'll Tell Them What WE Want them to Know". ;D Bob, media always stretch the truth. Think about Clinton-Lewinsky story and all this nonsense about a lie. If you do not trust media now, you should ignore them then ;D ;D ;D Jaga. I do, I do ;D ;D ;D
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Post by karl on Sept 17, 2008 12:37:08 GMT -7
Dear Guys
As a person, I was educated, and my English is highly perfect, for that was my training.
But, when you use these slang or spot differance language, I am very lost....
Sooo, what is a RC?
Karl
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