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Post by Jaga on Sept 21, 2008 21:03:17 GMT -7
ABC correspondents analyze McCain and his economy experience, below: www.crooksandliars.com/2008/09/21/this-week-roundtable-consensus-mccain-is-clueless-on-the-economy/see the youtube discussion, the analysis is below It’s a cold day in hell when the entire “This Week” panel rails against John McCain and his utter confusion when it comes to the economy. Cokie Roberts raises the specter of Herbert Hoover, Donaldson rightfully pins the deregulation racket on McCain and Republicans, calling McCain’s promise to champion regulation a “hard pill to swallow,” and George Will says McCain acted “unpresidential” and that the issue of age should re-enter the debate over whether McCain is fit for the job. |
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Post by Jaga on Sept 21, 2008 21:04:08 GMT -7
By the way. How many cars does McCain owns?
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Post by hollister on Sept 21, 2008 21:11:22 GMT -7
By the way. How many cars does McCain owns? Oh Jaga give the old guy some slack! He can't help it if he forgets where he parks and has to buy a new car! ;D (BTW it is 13) |
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Post by Jaga on Sept 21, 2008 21:55:42 GMT -7
Holly, McCain has at least 13 cars  I wonder who keeps all the keys? |
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Post by kaima on Sept 21, 2008 23:26:27 GMT -7
By the way. How many cars does McCain owns? Oh Jaga give the old guy some slack! He can't help it if he forgets where he parks and has to buy a new car! ;D (BTW it is 13) Gee Holly, I am not even a US senator or night show host and can't remember how many cars I have had at once, and I am not a car collector. At one time I had 2 cars in the US and one in Europe, or it was 3 cars in the US and one in Europe. I honestly can't remember. About four years ago I reduced it to two cars. Kai |
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Post by Jaga on Sept 22, 2008 21:07:17 GMT -7
McCain suggest that the economical crisis is caused by "corruption in washington". He does not point fingers at any concrete cases. Here is a part of his interview with Meredith Viera. She asks about McCain main economical adviser Carly Fiorina. Florinaas CEO of HP, walked away with over $40 million even after her tenure at the company was marked by tens of thousands of job losses and a 40% decline of shareholders stock value. Is this fair? listen to the interview, can you trust McCain when he admits that he does not even know details of her deal? www.crooksandliars.com/2008/09/22/mccain-plays-dumb-while-meredith-viera-nails-him-on-golden-parachute-hypocrisy/ |
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Post by Jaga on Sept 23, 2008 5:08:54 GMT -7
McCain Loses His Head Under the pressure of the financial crisis, one presidential candidate is behaving like a flustered rookie playing in a league too high. It is not Barack Obama. Channeling his inner Queen of Hearts, John McCain furiously, and apparently without even looking around at facts, said Chris Cox, chairman of the Securities and Exchange Commission, should be decapitated. This childish reflex provoked the Wall Street Journal to editorialize that "McCain untethered" -- disconnected from knowledge and principle -- had made a "false and deeply unfair" attack on Cox that was "unpresidential" and demonstrated that McCain "doesn't understand what's happening on Wall Street any better than Barack Obama does." To read the Journal's details about the depths of McCain's shallowness on the subject of Cox's chairmanship, see "McCain's Scapegoat" (Sept. 19, Page A22). Then consider McCain's characteristic accusation that Cox "has betrayed the public's trust." Under the pressure of the financial crisis, one presidential candidate is behaving like a flustered rookie playing in a league too high. It is not Barack Obama. Channeling his inner Queen of Hearts, John McCain furiously, and apparently without even looking around at facts, said Chris Cox, chairman of the Securities and Exchange Commission, should be decapitated. This childish reflex provoked the Wall Street Journal to editorialize that "McCain untethered" -- disconnected from knowledge and principle -- had made a "false and deeply unfair" attack on Cox that was "unpresidential" and demonstrated that McCain "doesn't understand what's happening on Wall Street any better than Barack Obama does." To read the Journal's details about the depths of McCain's shallowness on the subject of Cox's chairmanship, see "McCain's Scapegoat" (Sept. 19, Page A22). Then consider McCain's characteristic accusation that Cox "has betrayed the public's trust." www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/22/AR2008092202583.html?nav=hcmodule |
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Post by kaima on Sept 27, 2008 9:22:17 GMT -7
HA !!! Finally the true Conservative branch of the Republican Party is awakening!!! Haleeluja, I thought they had gone to Never-Never land.
They still exist, and it is they who objected to the economic program that wild spending Liberal Neo-Con-artist Bush has been pushing!
"Just as they were trying to reassert themselves as a party of fiscal restraint, President Bush, on his way out the White House door, was asking them to sign off of on a $700 billion bailout built on taxpayer dollars, with very few questions allowed.
“You were being asked to choose between financial meltdown on the one hand and taxpayer bankruptcy and the road to socialism on the other and you were told do it in 24 hours,” Representative Jeb Hensarling of Texas, head of the conservative group, said. “It was just never going to happen.”"
That is from the NY Times.
I am sure there are 10,000 articles you can choose from in the news papers and on the web, so I won't repeat it here.
I am just extremely pleased to see that some True Conservatives still exist in our government, and they are finally speaking out again. Let the dialog and the exchange of ideas begin. End the days of the unquestioned neo-con Fuhrer.
Kai
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Post by pieter on Sept 27, 2008 15:56:49 GMT -7
The Americans should save more instaid of putting debt on debt.
This saturday I had discussions with people from all parts of my country,
and we all agreed that the situation in America is not only dangerous for
America, but for Europe to. American politicians and financial experts
are very reluctant to use the R word and Depression is not used yet.
But this week I saw an alarming documentry about an American state
in which houses were worthless, good houses which had a value as
a bond. I saw upperclass and middle class houses that were abandoned
by it's inhabitants.
The Civil servant told in the interview that he and his colleages tried
to have stricter regulations for Credit (finance) and Mortgages.
The federal government then prohibited the National government of
that (American) state to make the regulations stricter.
Another American political scientists and economocal expert said:
Washinton is dead, the capitol and Congress are dead, this political
system is failing. In the debate both candidates refuse to say what
has to be said. That the only solution to solve the problem is raise
the taxes. But they will never do that, because that is unpopular.
The American government must collect the means to solve the
problem. But by lending money abroad and pumping 700 billion
dollars into the economy, expanding the state debt.
The banks are saved, while some of them might have gone bankrupt
without state support. The selfregulation of the free market is put
asside in this operation.
Pieter
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Post by jimpres on Sept 27, 2008 18:45:04 GMT -7
Kai,
What bothers me about the bailout is the liberals have added words so that ACORN get billions of dollars from the deal. Another dam earmark by them. It is a political slush fund for the liberals. There should be no earmarks on the deal. The deregulation bill signed in 1996 is partly responsible for Freddie and Fannie giving out NINJA loans.
Jim
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Post by kaima on Sept 27, 2008 20:46:10 GMT -7
Kai, What bothers me about the bailout is the liberals have added words so that ACORN get billions of dollars from the deal. Another dam earmark by them. It is a political slush fund for the liberals. There should be no earmarks on the deal. The deregulation bill signed in 1996 is partly responsible for Freddie and Fannie giving out NINJA loans. Jim Jim, This is an international forum wit many diverse people, so you might give a brief description of ACORN and NINJA for the benefit of all. Otherwise your message is meaningless. Adding to the lack of credibility is your usual assignment of 'liberal' to whatever you don't like. You never comment on 'neo-con' or 'conservative' and what they might do even better than what they do; it seems you concentrate all worlds evils on 'liberal'. Well, i guess I do the same in part; I have condemned GW Bush's wild Liberal financial ways for years. Now the chickens are home to roost. It is strange how the supposedly 'liberal' Democrats did a better job of managing the budget. That is why I am happy to see the true 'conservative' branch of the Republican party come out of the closet. I hope they stick around a while and take control back from the whacko 'neo-con' branch. Kai |
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Post by Jaga on Sept 27, 2008 21:20:46 GMT -7
Jim, according to my understanding Obama is against giving 700 bln to the corporatiions. here is a very interesting discussion of O'Reilly with Gingrich. The blame is on everybody in the Congress. Gingrich talks extensively about it. The blame reaches also a president who.... was unaware of what was going on. www.foxnews.com/video-search/m/21026865/bailout_backlash.htm?q=gingrichBailout Backlash Fri, 26 Sep 2008 Newt Gingrich tells O'Reilly why he strongly opposes the $700 billion bailout By the way, the troubles of America started with deregulations (not liberals are responsible for deregulations) and these credits is just a part of the problem, especially if we forget about costly wars, that are also not a product of liberals. |
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Post by jimpres on Sept 28, 2008 6:17:53 GMT -7
Jaga,
He may be against the bail out. I was talking about earmarks and they need to be stopped.
As to the deregulation it is a matter of record that Clinton signed the bill to deregulate the separation of banks and lending institutions.
Then Fannie and Freddie were urged to pass out loans to people who could not afford them. ACORN was a prime player in the Fannie and Freddie mess and got money from F and F now they are trying to get money from the bailout. A liberal was the head of Fannie and received 90M in compensation for 6 years of work.
When my business goes bad can I get relief from the Government, hell no
Politics as usual on the hill. Makes me so mad I could spit.
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Post by dbkaczor on Sept 28, 2008 7:22:05 GMT -7
who's going to pay for this mess??
A) people who took out mortgages they couldn't afford...
B) the people who profited from helping the above sign on the dotted line...
C) responsible citizens who had nothing to do with any of it...?
you guessed it! C.
I have a small business that i have been running for the last 22 years. i've never received so much as a penny of help from the government in all these years. paid for everything i have in cash and no loans. now, my fingertips are raw from trying to hold onto my american dream the last 8 years. i don't need the goverments help and i sure don't want to have to pay for my irresponsible neighbors or greedy stockbrokers.
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Post by jimpres on Sept 28, 2008 11:46:49 GMT -7
dbkacaor,
You know we will pay when it comes right down to it we have no choice.
I voted for many bills in California just to have a liberal justice overturn them.
So even if we vote for something it can be changed by the judicial system or the government.
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I wonder who keeps all the keys?
