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Post by pieter on Apr 15, 2010 16:48:55 GMT -7
Electronic musicElectronic music is music that employs electronic musical instruments and electronic music technology in its production. In general a distinction can be made between sound produced using electromechanical means and that produced using electronic technology. Examples of electromechanical sound producing devices include the telharmonium, Hammond organ, and the electric guitar. Purely electronic sound production can be achieved using devices such as the Theremin, sound synthesizer, and computer. Electronic music was once associated almost exclusively with Western art music but from the late 1960s on the availability of affordable music technology meant that music produced using electronic means became increasingly common in the popular domain. Today electronic music includes many varieties and ranges from experimental art music to popular forms such as electronic dance music. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_dance_musicTechnoTechno is a form of electronic dance music ( EDM) that emerged in Detroit, Michigan in the United States during the mid to late 1980s. The first recorded use of the word techno, in reference to a genre of music, was in 1988. Many styles of techno now exist, but Detroit techno is seen as the foundation upon which a number of subgenres have been built. The initial take on techno arose from the melding of European electronic music by artists such as Kraftwerk with African American music including funk, electro, Chicago house and electric jazz. Added to this is the influence of futuristic and fictional themes that are relevant to life in American late capitalist society—particularly the book The Third Wave by Alvin Toffler. Pioneering producer Juan Atkins cites Toffler's phrase " techno rebels" as inspiring him to use the word techno to describe the musical style he helped to create. This unique blend of influences aligns techno with the aesthetic referred to as afrofuturism. To producers such as Derrick May, the transference of spirit from the body to the machine is often a central preoccupation; essentially an expression of technological spirituality. In this manner: " techno dance music defeats what Adorno saw as the alienating effect of mechanisation on the modern consciousness". Music journalists and fans of techno are generally selective in their use of the term; so a clear distinction can be made between sometimes related but often qualitatively different styles, such as tech house and trance. " Techno" is also commonly confused with generalized descriptors, such as electronic music and dance music.
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Post by Nictoshek on Apr 20, 2010 4:08:46 GMT -7
Nice ones pieter.  That reminds me to compose some of my own short loops.  |
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Post by Nictoshek on Apr 20, 2010 18:58:20 GMT -7
Here's the software that I'd be using to compose some out of this world music:
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Post by pieter on May 11, 2010 17:18:42 GMT -7
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Post by karl on May 12, 2010 6:49:58 GMT -7
pieter
Electronic music,yes,yes,yes. It is as spontaneous music sound, it goes very well whilst working in as well as just to listen. It seems universal in mood enhancement in as well as relaxing.
With this, whilst concentration on work, the music of the old masters is much prefer, for there are no lyrics to break concentration by, just the instrumental sound that is not distracting.
With the turmoil of relocation {s}, I have lost fairly all my music with exception of one set of Englanders {Ray Noble and Al Bowly} music set of year 1931-1933. These were pack in storage and as such, preserved. These fellows were partnered together in those years of British music. Ray Noble was the master partner in writing and directing the band. Whilst Al Bowly was the singer.
Their specialty was presentation of dance music.
Theirs is very good, but only to those with an ear for music of the 30s.
As a child, it was my discovery from the attic {room below the roof}, to have access by stealth, to a grama phone and an seemingly inexhaustible supple of recordings on bake like records. Some were only of one side, whilst the remainder were normal of today, both sides.
I only suppose this was my early appreciation of the 30s and 20s music.
The grama phone was of the hand wind machine, and used the hard needles of that time of manufacture.
Karl
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Post by tuftabis on May 12, 2010 6:58:49 GMT -7
Some were only of one side, whilst the remainder were normal of today, both sides. Karl, Karl, Karl ;D ;D ;D ;D Karl! The normal of today is one side.... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D |
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Post by karl on May 12, 2010 7:03:11 GMT -7
Some were only of one side, whilst the remainder were normal of today, both sides. Karl, Karl, Karl ;D ;D ;D ;D Karl! The normal of today is one side.... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Tufta Gollies, I was confused for a bit, until I realized you are joking Your sense of humour is excellent ;D My day with sudden, is much bright... Karl |
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Post by tuftabis on May 12, 2010 8:47:55 GMT -7
Karl, I was formed musically as a teenager and young adult which is second half of 70ties and 80ties of the long gone century number 20. In result the normal record for me is just as for you - the double sided one. Longplay was its name. I still have a lot of them to pass to next generations for their fun as you had yours in this attick. For my children, the normal 'record' is the one sided compact, metal one. As one sided as it was in the very beginning of His Master's Voice technology. It is even worse - as 'normal' for them (my children) is no record at all. A virtual record so to say in the form of a computer file on some memory carrier...
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Post by tuftabis on May 12, 2010 8:56:38 GMT -7
One of the first electronic music pieces I encountered and liked. It is with lyrics. It may seem a little out-dated today, but I still sometimes sing the famous refrain ;D I am sure both of you, Karl and Pieter must remmeber it! But did you ever hear Kraftwerk performing it in Polish? ;D
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Post by pieter on May 12, 2010 11:28:15 GMT -7
Tuftabis I love Kraftwerk, they were the German electronic music pioneers of the seventees, they landed in the USA as a sort of aliens coming from a space ship in the seventees. They inspired black dj's of the disco and soul era, and from the mix of these German electonic music engineers and black musicians from Detroit, Chicago and New York city House music developped.
I believe that there would have been no New Wave, electro, House and the quality segment of techno in Germany, the USA, the rest of Europe and Poland without the essential music of Kraftwerk. He the old tracks, which are part of the fundament of Modern electronic music and the history of Pop music.
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Post by karl on May 12, 2010 12:23:04 GMT -7
Tufta Gollies you bring up the memories I had forgotten...Yes, Kraftwerk, they were the new wave of that time. It was simply incredible to hear such music. For your question though, no, I had not heard them in Polish. But then, for why not, their music is for all, in as much as for Nena and Falco. What though of the American artist of Johnny Cash? and of the fellow with dark glasses and guitar, boy, at the moment, his name escapes me. One of his songs was: Pretty Woman, we were only able to understand just some of his lyrics though,and that was disappointing. Most of the progressive and foreign music groups would perform in Hamburg and that was the place to go... I was trying to remember of the Beatles, for at the moment, I forget the years they appeared. How bout the Rolling Stones? Remember those fellows? We were simply amazed with them and Mick Jagger. Their music seemed to mirier image my feelings of that time. Some of the concerts were held in the out side with the very large stage, powerful speaker systems and lighting. The night air would cool down and for this, an excuse to bring a few bottles of drink. Of course this was not to be allowed, but darn, it was fun braking a rule now and then. Our uniform was a leather jacket over jeans and sweat shirt, and of course, the coloured head band. Some of us were fortunate to wear their hair long, but others as my self, by requirement, had short hair. I certainly do hope these artist were to perform in Poland as was our pleasure.... I am ashamed to say, but was not thinking if they were to perform in your area also. Music should never be kept but, shared for all. Were you guys as crazy as we were? It was simply just fun to load up in a VW Kombo and head out to any concert for a get-way from reality. Some whiskey or what ever to kill the cold or what ever. It was simply wonderful fun. Now, it would be my luck to catch a rottten cold or some thing similar. Karl |
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Post by karl on May 12, 2010 12:26:15 GMT -7
Karl, I was formed musically as a teenager and young adult which is second half of 70ties and 80ties of the long gone century number 20. In result the normal record for me is just as for you - the double sided one. Longplay was its name. I still have a lot of them to pass to next generations for their fun as you had yours in this attick. For my children, the normal 'record' is the one sided compact, metal one. As one sided as it was in the very beginning of His Master's Voice technology. It is even worse - as 'normal' for them (my children) is no record at all. A virtual record so to say in the form of a computer file on some memory carrier... ;D ;D ;D ;D Yes Tufta, I am as you...I wonder, our fun, was it best? Or, are we now to show only our age and a time that was ours, now gone... Karl |
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Post by karl on May 12, 2010 15:51:19 GMT -7
Pieter Were you as crazy as us with attendence of a concert? Were you to wear a leather jacket over Jeans and with this, a coloured head band? Or, am I alone to admit it?  We were not ruffens of sort, just young people to have a good time.. Karl |
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Post by pieter on May 12, 2010 18:29:57 GMT -7
Karl, To be frank yes, I wore a thick leather jacket, Jeans and militairy boots, but I was a hard rock lover who liked a mix of hard rock ( Jimi Hendrix, Mc5, Iggy and the Stooges, Black Sabbath, Motörhead, AC/DC, Van Halen, Slayer and etc.), Punk (Sex Pistols, Angry Samoans, the Clash, The Dead Kennedys) New Wave (Siouxsie and the Banshees, Joy Division, New Order, Human Leage, Dead Can Dance, the Cockteau Twins and the Cure), and the Rolling Stones, Beatles, U2, the Police, Lou Reed/Velvet Underground, The Outsiders (Wally Tax), Public Enemy and the Beasty Boys (Hip Hop and Punk) too.  Me in the nineties with my thick leather jacket and black JeansFrom Germany I liked Nina Hagen, Propaganda, Nena, die Toten Hosen, DAF ( Deutsch Amerikanische Freundschaft), Kraftwerk, the Krautrockband Faust, and the Berlin School of electronic music: Klaus Schulze and Tangerine Dream, and Ashra. I was an ecclectic, anarchistic fellow as a kid and teenager who loved fast, rough (not to smooth or polished), tense, noise, industrial, independant (Indie), alternative (that's what they called guys and people who liked music which was not mainstream, and who were subcultural and a little bit differant then the rest of mainstream disco, pop, rock and soul lovers of that time) music. I was not a punk, nor a hardrocker or New Waver, I was all three in one, and added to that the soul, disco, funk, rock, reggea, sca, electro and psychedelic music I liked. I made my own mix and created my own taste and collection. |
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Post by karl on May 13, 2010 7:06:15 GMT -7
Pieter It is fun to exchange experiences such as this , I think it is perhaps a curiosity as to the other fellows experience to compare, I only would suppose. Hopefully, Tufta will see this and describe of his experience whilst his teenage growing up. It is a time during our youth of change, testing and comparing what is expected of us, and the differences between what we know, and what we seek to know. Most of those years were during the cold war years and as of those years, protest music was popular with us. It did not mean we hated any one, it meant for the most part, we hated war and many of us, were fearful of what the Americans might do and what the Russians would do to ruin our world that we knew. With this, a certain amount of concern of which direction our military might turn. With this, was the constant change in my life that provided the guidelines to follow. For I was for the most part, to dodge responsibility and considered my self as the most least to provide to any sort of leadership. I just wished only to follow and let the other fellow do the leading and take the risk. In as of that, I never considered my self as very smart, just tricky. Life plays tricks with us and that of what we {my self} wish not to occur, seems to drag us into the fray over our personal wishes. Pieter, thank you for sharing, for you have spent a considerable amount of effort in describing with examples of illustration. For as with yourself, I also enjoyed most of that you have exampled. Although it was different with the Electronic music, I was not overly enjoyed with it, but thought it was quite interesting. There were a few years though requiring concentration for training and three years on our fishing fleet, then those months with military service. Then my life work in civil service cut into what I wished for and what I must do. In between though, it was motorcycles, attending with friends the concerts {indoor concerts though, it would be too hot to wear a leather jacket, it would then be some undershirt and jeans} One occasion that later I was very embarrassed and confused. Whilst with a crowd at an evening concert. It was warm enough to wear a leather jacket {mine was a brown A2 Jacket}, I had the sleeves pulled up covering my undershirt. A very lovely blond lady ask if I was from California, but when I spoke, she just sniffed and walked away. It was very embarrassing and confusing, for I had no idea what I had done to hurt her. Moments in our lives that never seem to lose in our memories. Karl |
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That reminds me to compose some of my own short loops. 
