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Post by JustJohn or JJ on Sept 19, 2016 7:15:48 GMT -7
The Suppressed & Hidden History of Islam
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Post by JustJohn or JJ on Oct 14, 2016 7:08:46 GMT -7
The following video and photos re of equipment in the forest of Maine. This far north the streams and rivers flow northward. Since the trees that produce 20% of the country's paper and wood needs to go south, they devised this approach. The great depression shut them down.
ABANDONED LOCOMOTIVES IN THE WILDERNESS
Most of the locomotives are over 100 years old. They were abandoned during the Great Depression.
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Post by JustJohn or JJ on Oct 17, 2016 6:11:32 GMT -7
"Critical Note: A highly classified SVR amendment to this MoF report states that upon Qatar receiving Hillary Clinton’s $1.8 billion earlier today, one of that sheikdoms royal palaces was “ordered emptied” in preparation for the “early November arrival” of a “high value” dignitary—Hillary Clinton perhaps?"
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Hillary Clinton’s “Sudden Move” Of $1.8 Billion To Qatar Central Bank Stuns Financial World
An intriguing Ministry of Finance (MoF) report circulating in the Kremlin today says that elite Western bankers were “stunned/bewildered” a few hours ago after the Bank For International Settlements (BIS) registered a $1.8 billion transfer from the Clinton Foundation (CF) to the Qatar Central Bank (QCB) through the “facilitation/abetment” of JP Morgan Chase & Company (JPM)—and for reasons yet to be firmly established. [Note: Some words and/or phrases appearing in quotes in this report are English language approximations of Russian words/phrases having no exact counterpart.]
According to this report, the Bank for International Settlements is the world's oldest international financial organization and acts as a prime counterparty for central banks in their financial transactions; the Qatar Central Bank is the bank of that Gulf State nations government and their “bank of banks”; JP Morgan Chase & Company is the United States largest “megabank”; and the Clinton Foundation is an international criminal money laundering organization whose clients include the Russian mafia.
With Hillary Clinton’s US presidential campaign Chairman John Podesta having longstanding ties to the Russian mafia and money laundering, this report continues, the Foreign Intelligence Service (SVR) maintains “complete/all times/all ways” surveillance of him and his criminal associates—including both Hillary Clinton and her husband, and former US President, Bill Clinton, and who are collectively designated as the “Clinton Crime Family”.
On Saturday 15 October (2016), this report notes, the SVR reported to the MoF that Hillary Clinton and John Podesta met with JP Morgan Chase & Company CEO Jamie Dimon at Clinton’s Chappaqua Compound outside of New York City—and who, in 2009, both President Obama and Hillary Clinton allowed to break US laws by his, Dimon’s, being able to buy millions-of-dollars of his company’s stocks prior to the public being told his JP Morgan bank was receiving a Federal Reserve $80 billion credit line—and that caused JP Morgan’s stocks to soar and that have had an astonishing 920% dividend growth since 2010.
Within 12 hours of the Hillary Clinton-John Podesta-Jamie Dimon meeting at the Chappaqua Compound, this report continues, the BIS registered the transfer of $1.8 billion from the Clinton Foundation to the Qatar Central Bank.
To why the Clinton Foundation transferred this enormous sum of money to Qatar, this report explains, is due to the longstanding ties between this Islamic neo-patrimonial absolute monarchy and then US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton who “oversaw/managed” the “massive bribery scheme” that allowed this Gulf State nation to secure the 2022 World Cup—and that the Qataris were so appreciative of they donated millions to the Clinton Foundation, and incredibly, in 2011, gave former US President Bill Clinton $1 million for a birthday present—bringing Hillary Clinton’s total “cash grab” from these Persian Gulf sheiks of $100 million—all occurring as recently released secret emails revealed Hillary Clinton’s knowledge that both Qatar and Saudi Arabia were, and still are, funding ISIS.
To what Jamie Dimon “related/said to” Hillary Clinton that caused her to suddenly transfer $1.8 billion to Qatar, this report notes, revolves around his JP Morgan bank being told by the US Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation (FDIC) in April (2016) that this “megabanks” master plan to save itself had “serious deficiencies” that could “pose serious adverse effects to the financial stability of the United States”.
Two months after the FDIC’s warning letter to Jamie Dimon, in June (2016), this report says, he cryptically “sounded a warning” that the United States sub-prime auto loan bubble was nearing collapse and stated that “someone is going to get hurt”.
Unbeknownst to the American people, MoF experts in this report explain, is that just 8 weeks ago multiple warnings began to be issued that the United States $1 trillion sub-prime auto loan bubble was beginning to collapse—and that this past week became so severe the Bank of America issued a recession warning telling its elite customers that “this market is scary”, and the British-based multinational banking and financial services company HSBC, likewise, issued a “Red Alert” warning all of its clients warning them to “prepare for a severe market crash”.
With one of the first “victims/casualties” of this sub-prime auto loan bubble being the German global banking giant Deutsche Bank that is “nearing its doom” and laying off tens-of-thousands of it workers worldwide, this report grimly states, the American mainstream propaganda media is failing to allow the people of that nation to know the full extent of this looming catastrophe—who unlike Hillary Clinton who has just protected $1.8 billion of her wealth, will be left defenseless once again at the hands of their elite rulers.
As Wikileaks secret Hillary Clinton emails have now proven that the US propaganda mainstream media is now totally controlled by her, and who continue their blackout on the “Clinton Crime Story of the Century”, this report continues, the absolutely horrifying statistics released this week showing that an astounding 35% of American who have been brutalized by the Obama-Clinton regime these past 8 years are so buried in debt they can no longer pay their bills is, likewise, being kept from these most innocent of peoples.
And rather than the US propaganda mainstream media warning the American people of their economies looming destruction, this report concludes, they have, instead, begun a “systemic mainstream misinformation” campaign to manipulate the presidential election polls showing Hillary Clinton leading—but that stands opposed to actual (but unreported) polls showing Donald Trump leading.
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Post by JustJohn or JJ on Nov 2, 2016 5:02:42 GMT -7
New discovery could solve mystery surrounding Amelia EarhartPublished October 31, 2016 news.com.au Legendary aviator Amelia Earhart was attempting to become the first female pilot to fly around the world when her plane disappeared over the Pacific Ocean in 1937. Last month, the International Group for Historic Aircraft Recovery (TIGHAR) proposed the theory that she landed her plane safely on a remote island and died as a castaway. Now, scientists say a new discovery shows a striking similarity between the pilot and the partial skeleton of a castaway found on an island in the country of Kiribati in 1940. A historical photo provided the vital clue. The legendary pilot In May 1932, Amelia Earhart became the first woman to fly solo across the Atlantic Ocean, taking off in Canada and landing in Ireland. Three years later, she flew solo from Hawaii to California, winning a $10,000 prize. She was America’s darling, famous for being a daring, but modest, pilot. Together with co-pilot Frederick J. Noonan, she was attempting to circumnavigate the globe when the plane disappeared somewhere near Howland Island, in the middle of the Pacific. In August, TIGHAR’s Ric Gillespie said Earhart made more than 100 radio transmissions calling for help between July 2 and July 6 of 1937, ruling out the possibility of a crash landing. Her calls were picked up as far away as Texas, Florida, and even Melbourne. “She’s out there calling for help,” Mr Gillespie said, adding that she must have landed safely, because the radio wouldn’t have worked without the engine running. A strange detail The bones were uncovered on the island of Nikumaroro, also known as Gardner Island, which is about 400 miles south of Howland Island. They were analysed in 1940, but a doctor said they were male, ruling out the possibility they belonged to Earhart. However, when TIGHAR discovered the files in 1998, scientists said modern techniques proved the bones were “consistent with a female of Earhart’s height and ethnic origin”. More recently, anthropologist Richard Jantz was preparing an updated evaluation when he noticed a strange detail: the skeleton’s forearms were considerably larger than average. However, without knowing the dimensions of Earhart’s body, Dr Jantz had no way of comparing if her forearms were similarly longer than normal. The fascinating science TIGHAR turned to forensic imaging specialist Jeff Glickman for help. Using a historical photo where both of Earhart’s bare arms were visible, he calculated the ratio between the bones in her lower and upper arm. “Because there is tissue over the skeleton in living people ... the location of each bone end must be estimated,” he wrote in a report published last week. Her clothing also added a layer of difficulty, however, he used the point of her shoulder, the crease of her elbow, and the indent of her wrist as landmarks. “Given the evidence and my experience in the field of photogrammetry and photo interpretation, I estimate that the radius-to-humerus ratio of Amelia Earhart is 0.76,” he wrote. In other words, the difference between her lower and upper arm was virtually identical to the partial skeleton, unearthed in the South Pacific. The discovery doesn’t conclusively prove the castaway was Amelia Earhart, but it’s certainly another step in that direction.
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Post by JustJohn or JJ on Nov 5, 2016 9:34:23 GMT -7
Wow - - - Love our National Archives !!!!
America's Planned War on Britain
What if War Plan Red Happened?
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Post by karl on Nov 5, 2016 12:36:20 GMT -7
The best may I say, is, interesting indeed so. The UK, ruler of the seas, to be at war with a former rebellious colony. So, how would America with its military might defeat such an Island nation as the UK? Perhaps to step back and let the allies of each work as an mercenary complex military with the Americans holding the Roman sword at the hilt and the mercenary allies being the sword blad to be the cutting edge of victory?
But then, many years past in history, the Americans fought a very bruital war brother against brother with out qualms. One side conqured the other to which now stands the union of all.
There is a time it would appear when the right cards are not being dealt out, the deck needs be reshuffled for a better hand.
Karl
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Post by JustJohn or JJ on Nov 16, 2016 6:40:38 GMT -7
This is a important message !!! DARRELL HUCKABY: Take a seat — history class is in session By Darrell Huckaby dhuck008@gmail.com Updated 19 hrs ago Goodness gracious sakes alive, does this country need a history lesson! Never in the past four years have I wanted so badly to have a class of people to teach. Teenagers or adults or senior citizens — it wouldn’t have mattered. I have seen so much appalling ignorance about our country, its history and its constitution that I have just wanted to grab the populace and shake them until they understood. For starters, I am tired of hearing about our democracy and the popular vote. We are not a democracy, and a whole lot of people should be really glad about that, too, because in a democracy, mob rule applies. The majority is the boss of everybody, and if we had been a democracy in 1865 slavery would have never been abolished. If we had been a democracy in 1920, the women would have never gotten the vote. If we had been a democracy in 1964 and 1965, those historic pieces of civil rights legislation would never have been approved. In fact, if we had been a democracy in 1776, the Declaration of Independence would never have been adopted because the majority of the colonists were afraid to pursue independence, just like a majority of Americans opposed women’s suffrage and abolition and sweeping civil rights reform. For the record, Abraham Lincoln did not get a majority of the popular vote in 1860, and Bill Clinton did not get a majority of the popular vote in 1992 or 1996. “Oh, yes he did!” screamed one of my Facebook friends this week. “I know Lincoln got the most votes and so did Clinton.” Most means plurality, y’all. A majority is 50 percent plus one. And while we are on the subject, we are not a democratic republic, either, no matter what the revisionist history books might claim. That’s just a term Andrew Jackson coined for political purposes in the 1820s and it stuck with some people. We are a republic. We have a federalist form of government where the power is supposed to be divided between the states and the central government and neither is subservient to the other. Both are supposed to get their powers directly from the people. And by the way, the U.S. Constitution does not give any of us the right to have a say so in who becomes president of the United States. Oh, no, it doesn’t. That power is vested entirely in the Electoral College, and under the Constitution states still have the authority to decided how those electors are chosen. It wasn’t until 1842 that the last state started allowing the people to vote for those electors. If we eliminated the Electoral College people in two-thirds of the states would be virtually disenfranchised when it came to presidential elections. All the time, money and effort would be spent wooing voters in California, New York and Florida. Now about the transition of power. Political parties are not mentioned in the Constitution and were thought to be a dangerous thing by our founders. But parties arose almost immediately because people have always had differences of opinions about political issues. The first 12 years under the Constitution found the government in the hands of the Federalist Party. But in the election of 1800 — also called the Revolution of 1800 — Thomas Jefferson, leader of the Republican Party, was chosen to be president. When John Adams, his Federalist opponent, stepped down on inauguration day in 1801, it marked the first time in the history of the world that a group in power had relinquished power without violence or threat of violence, simply because the people said that’s what they wanted. It has worked that way ever since. And now the people have spoken and the message is loud and clear, under the Constitution, that the people want this country to go in a new direction. And no matter how much they hated to do so, Hillary and Bill Clinton, Joe Biden, and President Obama did and said all the right things this week to propel us toward that smooth transition. And yet in many of our nation’s cities, ignorant young people who have no knowledge of how this Republic is supposed to work are dying to get attention by marching in the streets and generally acting the fool — and, no, these are not the peaceful protests guaranteed by the First Amendment. You must have a grievance to protest. These are spoiled brats and attention-seekers and they should be ashamed. And if you are interested, I have about 38 years worth of lessons stored up. Class can start as soon as everyone gets here.
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Post by JustJohn or JJ on Nov 16, 2016 7:29:12 GMT -7
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Post by JustJohn or JJ on Nov 21, 2016 7:03:55 GMT -7
Australian 60 Minutes exposed the Worldwide Satanic Pedophile Network
by Gary Lite · Published November 17, 2016 · Updated November 19, 2016
And you wonder why people are rebelling against the ones in power.
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Post by pieter on Nov 21, 2016 7:24:27 GMT -7
Dear John,
You have them everywhere unfortunately. In the UK, the Netherlands, Belgium, Germany, USA, Canada, Denmark, Poland, Russia and etc. We had a pedophile city councillor, whom discovery made regional and national headlines.
The guy with the moustache is the pedophile
Furious civilians attacked the pedophile city council member when he returned to the council after he spend some time in prison. Nobody wanted him back (not the mayor, not the aldermen and not his fellow city councillors), but Dutch law prevented him from being fired or prohibited enrtrance. During the period he attended the city council meetings he was ignored, isolated and only some people had contact with him, because he was human and had received his punishment according to them. Police found child pornography on the hard drives of his computer at his home twice. Eventually the pedophile councilmember had to leave Arnhem and moved to another town, where he lives an anonymous life. I hope that he won't have the chance to get near children.
You clearly see that the pedophile, Martin van Meurs, has no emotion, didn't understood what he did wrong, and only said that he served his sentence. I hope that he and other people like him are monitored by the authorities, that they are registered and that families with children are informed in the nbeighborhoods where they live.
Cheers, Pieter
P.S.- There are very powerful networks behind these pedophile rings. Unfortunately these people have powerful positions and protect less powerful, but important members of their secret networks with their political, financial and legal power. Most hetrosexual, homosexual (Gay and Lesbian), Bisexual people reject them, but unfortunately some libertarians, liberals and progressives protect them, under the pretext of diversity, biology and that these pedophiles can't help it that they are the way they are.
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Post by JustJohn or JJ on Nov 21, 2016 8:25:44 GMT -7
Dear John, You have them everywhere unfortunately. In the UK, the Netherlands, Belgium, Germany, USA, Canada, Denmark, Poland, Russia and etc. We had a pedophile city councillor, whom discovery made regional and national headlines. The guy with the moustache is the pedophileFurious civilians attacked the pedophile city council member when he returned to the council after he spend some time in prison. Nobody wanted him back (not the mayor, not the aldermen and not his fellow city councillors), but Dutch law prevented him from being fired or prohibited enrtrance. During the period he attended the city council meetings he was ignored, isolated and only some people had contact with him, because he was human and had received his punishment according to them. Police found child pornography on the hard drives of his computer at his home twice. Eventually the pedophile councilmember had to leave Arnhem and moved to another town, where he lives an anonymous life. I hope that he won't have the chance to get near children. You clearly see that the pedophile, Martin van Meurs, has no emotion, didn't understood what he did wrong, and only said that he served his sentence. I hope that he and other people like him are monitored by the authorities, that they are registered and that families with children are informed in the nbeighborhoods where they live. Cheers, Pieter P.S.- There are very powerful networks behind these pedophile rings. Unfortunately these people have powerful positions and protect less powerful, but important members of their secret networks with their political, financial and legal power. Most hetrosexual, homosexual (Gay and Lesbian), Bisexual people reject them, but unfortunately some libertarians, liberals and progressives protect them, under the pretext of diversity, biology and that these pedophiles can't help it that they are the way they are. You are right Pieter. Here is more proof. Conspiracy of Silence, a documentary listed for viewing in TV Guide Magazine was to be aired on the Discovery Channel, on May 3, 1994. This documentary exposed a network of religious leaders and Washington politicians who flew children to Washington D.C. for sex orgies. Many children suffered the indignity of wearing nothing but their underwear and a number displayed on a piece of cardboard hanging from their necks when being auctioned off to foreigners in Las Vegas, Nevada and Toronto, Canada. At the last minute before airing, unknown congressmen threatened the TV Cable industry with restrictive legislation if this documentary was aired. Almost immediately, the rights to the documentary were purchased by unknown persons who had ordered all copies destroyed. A copy of this videotape was furnished anonymously to former Nebraska state senator and attorney John De Camp who made it available to retired FBI Agent Ted L. Gunderson. While the video quality is not top grade, this tape is a blockbuster in what is revealed by the participants involved.
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Post by JustJohn or JJ on Nov 21, 2016 8:45:18 GMT -7
More about Australia
Fiona Barnett The 'Candy Girl' Documentary MUST SEE!!
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Post by karl on Nov 21, 2016 11:12:46 GMT -7
J.J.
A very disturbing situation as reported by one victim {Fiona Barnett} of a very disturbing crime against children. The trauma of each event is disturbing enough, but the worse comes as an after math of these victims reporting such sexual offenses as they suffered through.
This type and form of offense is one that is very uncomfortable for many to accept as it is of a sexual nature. For the very fact that many do not wish to talk openly of it, let alone to be a witness in a court of law. Entirely faced by people they do not know and then faced by a court prosecutor bringing out the facts of the case. To then facing defense lawyer{s} with cross examinations which is necessary to insure the truth has been and is being presented against the defendant.
In this case, the first trauma facing the victim is facing the Child Abuse Royal Commission whose job is to first determine if: has a crime been committed, and if so, who is the victim. Then evidence of where the crime was committed/by who and what evidence has been brought forward for examination. How valid is the evidence and who is responsible. This last has a tendency to be very tricky and some times care must be taken. For such crimes against children may be committed by those in the high ranks of our respective government. For these people do not wish to be exposed as this would conflict their positions they hold in public life. Some of these people are in positions of power and very well know once exposed, others will fall like dominoes.
A very nasty situation that has befallen Ms Barnett.
Karl
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Post by JustJohn or JJ on Nov 26, 2016 7:36:28 GMT -7
Did You Know?
History Lesson on our Social Security Card
11/25/2016
Your Social Security Card - did you know?
Just in case some of you young whippersnappers (& some older ones) didn't know this. It's easy to Check out, if you don't believe it. Be sure and show It to your family and friends. They need a little history Lesson on what's what and it doesn't matter whether You are Democrat or Republican. Facts are Facts. Social Security Cards up until the 1980s expressly stated The number and card were not to be used for identification Purposes. Since nearly everyone in the United States now Has a number, it became convenient to use it anyway And the message, NOT FOR IDENTIFICATION, was removed.
Franklin Roosevelt, a Democrat, introduced the Social Security (FICA) Program. He promised:
1.) That participation in the Program would be Completely voluntary,
No longer Voluntary
2.) That the participants would only have to pay 1% of the first $1,400 of their annual Incomes into the Program,
Now 7.65% On the first $90,000
3.) That the money the participants elected to put Into the Program would be deductible from Their income for tax purposes each year,
No longer tax deductible
4.) That themoney the participants put into the Independent 'Trust Fund' rather than into the General operating fund, and therefore, would Only be used to fund the Social Security Retirement Program, and no other Government program, and,
Under Johnson the money was moved to The General Fund and Spent
5.) That the annuity payments to the retirees would never Be taxed as income.
Under Clinton & Gore Up to 85% of your Social Security can be Taxed
Since many of us have paid into FICA for years and are Now receiving a Social Security check every month -- And then finding that we are getting taxed on 85% of The money we paid to the Federal government to 'put Away --you may be interested in the following:
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Q: Which Political Party took Social Security from the Independent 'Trust Fund' and put it into the General fund so that Congress could spend it?
A: It was Lyndon Johnson and the democratically Controlled House and Senate.
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Q: Which Political Party eliminated the income tax Deduction for Social Security (FICA) withholding?
A: The Democratic Party.
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Q: Which Political Party started taxing Social Security annuities?
A: The Democratic Party, with Al Gore casting the 'tie-breaking' deciding vote as President of the Senate, while he was Vice President of the US
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Q: Which Political Party decided to start Giving annuity payments to immigrants?
AND MY FAVORITE:
A: That's right!
Jimmy Carter and the Democratic Party. Immigrants moved into this country,and at age 65, Began to receive Social Security payments! The Democratic Party gave these payments to them, Even though they never paid a dime into it!
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Then, after violating the original contract (FICA), The Democrats turn around and tell you that the Republicans Want to take your Social Security away!
And the worst part about it is uninformed citizens believe it! If enough people receive this, maybe a seed of Awareness will be planted and maybe changes will Evolve. But it's worth a try. How many people can YOU send this to?
Actions speak louder than bumper stickers
PLEASE DO KEEP THIS ONE ROLLING ACROSS THE COUNTRY. HOPEFULLY IT WILL OPEN A FEW EYES!!!!!
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Post by JustJohn or JJ on Dec 3, 2016 8:46:24 GMT -7
BREAKING: Vladimir Putin calls Erdogan, forces Turkey to back down against Assad
Alexander Mercouris 2 days ago
Following telephone conversation with Russian President Putin, Turkish President Erdogan is forced humiliatingly to backtrack on his comments of a day before yesterday that the objective of Operation Euphrates Shield is the overthrow of Syrian President Assad.
Turkish President Erdogan’s admission that the ultimate objective of Operation Euphrates Shield is the overthrow of Syrian President Assad has provoked fury in Russia and a very strong reaction from the Russians.
Yesterday Dmitry Peskov, President’s Putin’s spokesman, made Russia’s anger very clear
“The statement was indeed news, this is a very serious statement. [It] is in discord with the previous [statements] in general and with our understanding of the situation. We hope that in the near future there will be explanations on this from our Turkish partners. Before making any judgments, we expect that this position will be clarified.”
Peskov also made it clear that Erdogan never said anything to Putin about overthrowing Assad during their telephone conversation on 26th November 2016.
The Kremlin’s account of that conversation was incidentally extremely short even by the Kremlin’s standards, merely saying
“The two leaders continued their exchange of opinions on the situation in Syria.”
It is in fact known that what happened was that Erdogan telephoned Putin to complain about the alleged Syrian air strike on Turkish troops north of Al-Bab, which the Turks say killed and wounded several Turkish soldiers.
The terse Kremlin account of the conversation suggests that there was a furious row, with Putin reminding Erdogan that unlike Russian troops, who are in Syria legally at the invitation of Syria’s legitimate government, Turkish troops are present in Syria illegally and contrary to the wishes of Syria’s legitimate government, and that for this reason the Russians are not in a position to help them.
Erdogan’s comments about the Turkish troops being in Syria to overthrow President Assad were almost certainly provoked by this row with Putin. It seems Erdogan came away smarting from his conversation with Putin and – as is his character – tried to save face by saying more than it was wise of him to say.
The result was another furious telephone conversation between Putin and Erdogan yesterday. The Kremlin’s account is again short and terse
“The President of Russia expressed condolences over the children killed in a fire in a girls’ dormitory in the city of Adana.
The presidents discussed current issues of Russian-Turkish relations, including bilateral contacts at different levels in the near future.
They continued their detailed exchange of views on Syria, including the developments in Aleppo.”
However on this occasion we have more information about the call from Putin’s aide Yury Ushakov
“I can only say that a telephone conversation between our president and Erdogan took place yesterday, and the topic [of Turkey’s presence in Syria] was addressed. Yes, he [Erdogan] gave an explanation.”
Today Erdogan has made public what that “explanation” was. Turkish newspaper Hurriyet reports him telling a meeting of village elders at his Presidential palace in Ankara
“The aim of the Euphrates Shield Operation is no country or person but only terror organisations. No one should doubt this issue that we have uttered over and over, and no one should comment on it in another fashion or try to [misrepresent its meaning].”
In other words Erdogan has backed down. After his conversation with Putin he has now been forced to deny the truth of what he said just the day before yesterday: that he is seeking to overthrow President Assad. Instead he is once again being forced to pretend that the objective of Operation Euphrates Shield is not the overthrow of President Assad but the defeat of ISIS and of the Kurdish militia the YPG, both of which he calls “terrorist organisations”.
In fact the meaning of Erdogan’s previous comments of the day before yesterday was perfectly clear. Moreover they undoubtedly spoke the truth – as Hurriyet admits. As I have repeatedly said, there is no doubt Erdogan remains personally committed to the overthrow of President Assad. Not only his comments but all his actions confirm as much.
The fact that Erdogan has now been forced publicly to retract on what he said – which was true – and that he has been forced by Putin to do so publicly – must therefore be doubly humiliating to him. It shows how frightened of Putin Erdogan is, and who is the dominant one of the two.
As for the Russians, there is no doubt they know what Erdogan’s true intentions in Syria are. By forcing him to deny them in public, they have however demonstrated the extent of their ascendancy over him. That will make it easier for them to keep him in check and under control in future.
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