Post by gardenmoma on May 12, 2006 14:52:03 GMT -7
I guess we have to remember that the "Code" is a work of fiction
I read the book in 2004, and then read "Angels and Demons" which I liked a lot better...maybe because it was easier for me to visualize and comprehend.
Husband and I recently finished listening to the unabridged audio version while driving south and back again. He was hesitant about whether he would enjoy it, but became totally "hooked."
Since then we have started on the unabridged audio version of the "Code." The reader is duller then the one that read "A & D."
Husband said he wanted to listen to the book before we saw the movie. If he decides not to see the movie, I'll probably see it myself. I do like Tom Hanks as an actor and am anxious to see what he does with the main role. I also enjoy Ron Howard's work.
As for some of the underpinnings of the "Code," the academic speciality of a close friend is "Mother Goddess Worship" and the "Femine Divine." So, other than the bit about Mary Magdalene and Jesus, I have been listening to her and hearing about much of the other "stuff" for many years.
It doesn't bother me one way or another since no one is holding me hostage until I say I believe in all these tenets.
The Religious Affiliation of Comic Book Character Clark Kent/Kal-El Superman
Superman is the archetypal costumed super-hero. He is clearly the most influential character in the comic book super-hero genre. The character was created by Jerry Siegel and Joe Shuster, both of whom were Jewish. The character of Superman, however, has always been depicted as having been raised with a solidly Protestant upbringing by his adoptive Midwestern parents - Jonathan and Martha Kent. Of Clark's parents, Martha is the more devout churchgoer. Jonathan also raised his adopted son with staunch Protestant values, but Jonathan has never been much of a churchgoer. As is often the case with a character or franchise of extraordinary longevity, Superman has been reconceived multiple times ("retconned" in comic book parlance). Throughout all of his incarnations, Superman has maintained his rural Midwestern Protestant upbringing, although rarely have the words "Protestant" or "Christian" been explicitly attached to his background.
Elliot S! Maggin, an observant Jew who is one of Superman's most popular and influential contemporary chroniclers, stated in a 1998 interview that Clark Kent and the entire family are Methodists. Although possibly not "canonical" (i.e., officially established within the DC Universe), this notion has widespread support; many writers and fans believe this denominational affiliation best captures and explains the character as he has been portrayed over the years. For example, popular comic book writer Mark Millar (Superman Adventures; Superman: Red Son) has written that Superman is a Methodist. Curt Swan, one of the best-known and most influential Superman artists, was raised Presbyterian but also attended Methodist churches while growing up (see:
From: Alex Johnson, "At the comics shop, religion goes graphic: Judeo-Christian themes woven into comic books you might not expect", published on MSNBC.com, 25 April 2006
viewed 2 May 2006); re-posted by Worldwide Religious News (http://wwrn.org/article.php?idd=21302; viewed 2 May 2006): Superman, for the record, is probably Methodist, while Batman is most likely a lapsed Catholic or Episcopalian. Maggin also said that Superman adheres to "a Kryptonian-based belief system centered on monotheistic philosophy." There is widespread agreement that, based on the lack of any depiction of congregational membership or church activity in his comic stories, Superman has not been a regular churchgoer as an adult. Superman has, however, occasionally visited clergymen of various Christian denominations for purposes of counsel, guidance, or confession. Superman's Moses-like origin and his Midwestern WASP-ish (White Anglo-Saxon Protestant) persona are widely regarded as a symbol of Jewish assimilation. Children of immigrant Jews, Siegel and Shuster were not unlike many in their generation in their desire to fit in to the general goyim population. The creation of Superman and his alter ego Clark Kent was a manifestation of the Siegel and Shuster to "pass" in mainstream population and also to assert control in a world that had often left them feeling powerless, such as when Siegel's father was murdered.
Above: Influential Superman writer/artist John Byrne rather overtly invoked the character's strongly Protestant Christian background in this scene. Jonathan Kent, the father of Superboy, tells his son that he prayed for him during a recent crisis. The father and super-powered son are framed in front of a Christian church (note the cross on the tower or steeple in the background). Later on this same page, Superman mentions "the solid, moral foundation my foster parents gave" him.
Above: Superman leads a prayer and reads from the Bible at the funeral of a friend: "Into thy hands we commend his spirit!" [Source: comic book panel posted at
viewed 6 December 2005): Elliot S! Maggin was the principal scriptwriter for DC Comics' Superman titles during the 1970's up until the mid-1980's. He has written two Superman novels (Last Son Of Krypton and Miracle Monday, both which are currently out of print) as well as numerous other stories, articles, interviews and projects. One of his most recent publications is the novel KINGDOM COME (which is available through Warner Books) which came out in February 1998. It is based on the very successful DC comic book mini-series KINGDOM COME by Mark Waid and Alex Ross. (It is well worth mentioning that Ross contributes a number of new painted illustrations to the Maggin novel!). Sales have been steady for the Maggin novelization. It is over one hundred thousand words full of action, characterization, and plot sculpting. BRUCE BACHAND [interviewer]: Do you see Superman as a man who prays and/or worships God regularly? If so, what would the Man of Steel pray about from your perspective? Elliot S! Maggin: I give all my characters religions. I think I always have. It's part of the backstory. It's part of the process of getting to know a character well enough to write about him or her. Jimmy Olson is Lutheran. Lois is Catholic. Perry is Baptist. Luthor is Jewish (though non-observant, thank heaven). Bruce and Batman are both Episcopalian and I said so in the text though it was edited out erroneously. Clark - like the Kents - is Methodist. Superman is something else, but I never did buy all that Kryptonian "Great Rao" nonsense. I do think Superman essentially adheres to a kind of interplanetary-oriented Kryptonian-based belief system centered on monotheistic philosophy, and I've got some ideas about it that I haven't yet articulated other than as backstory. I think Superman is too humble to ask for things in prayer, but I think he prays by rote, and constantly, the way some of us talk to ourselves in the shower. From: Mark Millar, "Superman: Red Son", published 27 April 2003 in Sunday Times in Scotland
(http://toothwatch.tripod.com/redson1.html; viewed 10 January 2006):
Mark Millar wrote a feature article about his upcoming three part prestige format Elseworlds mini series Superman: Red Son, published by DC Comics. I started at the beginning and went straight for the jugular. Instead of Superman's rocket ship crash landing in the wheat fields of Kansas, Superman: Red Son details his landing on a Soviet collective farm somewhere in Ukraine. Instead of being raised by simple, Methodist farming folk, he is raised during the cold war with an appreciation for Karl Marx and a devotion to Comrade Stalin. Instead of making his big trip to the fictional New York of Metropolis, he makes his way to Moscow to become not only the darling of the 1950s communist elite, but also the country's primary defence initiative... Writing such a story, which starts with a simple high concept in the 1950s and brings us up to date (where Superman narrates the whole thing shortly before his suicide), was always going to be a laugh. Playing around with reversals on this kind of scale was really my only original intention, but events in the real world were having a bigger influence on my plans. People say that all the best science fiction is really a commentary on how we live today, so this alternate history I was creating was becoming more and more about what America was becoming, particularly in light of a few hanging chads in a Florida polling booth. Here was a country that had become an empire. Like Superman's fictional Soviet Union, it was making pre-emptive strikes on infinite targets until the whole world bowed before the orthodoxy of its single religion and nobody was powerful enough to stand in its way. Just as Superman's existence causes Stalin to proclaim that there was only one real superpower now, events in the real world created a hyper-powered America, which, I fear, might only just be beginning to flex its muscles. The more I was writing, the more I realised this was a cautionary tale for America... Superman: Red Son had become an Orwellian fable of what happens when too much power ends up in one pair of hands and when huge power goes unchecked. In the series, we lament the cold war stalemate because the zealotry of an individual nation was always neutralised by the nuclear triggers of the enemy. But how do you stop a man who could take a Polaris missile on the chin? Similarly, how do you stop a man who declares a war on evil when he's backed up by more weapons than the rest of the world combined?
In 1960's I wrote stories for Thunder Agents, Noman & Undersea Agents comic books (Tower Pub. Co.). I met some top illustrators including Wally Wood & Gil Kane: www.thunderagents.com/ Unfortunately, my byline doesn't appear because I wrote free lance. Today, I'm developing my own comic book about the occult in Yucatan, Tibet, Siberia and other remote places. Carl
Da Vinci Code film does not have very good reviews. I even read in Polish press that in the most exciting moment when the French journalist reveals that she is the ancestors of Jesus the audience started to laugh.
Ron Howard’s movie The Da Vinci Code was met with just a few mild claps after its premiere on the opening day of the 59th Festival de Cannes.
The movie’s main stars, Tom Hanks, Audrey Tautou, Jean Reno, Sir Ian McKellen and Paul Bettany were at the movie’s premiere on Wednesday, May 17. They were joined by Dan Brown, the author of the bestseller The Da Vinci Code, on which the film is based.
The much-hyped $125 million movie has been panned by most critics ahead of its international release on May 18 and 19.
The review on Variety described the movie as “stodgy” and “grim”.
An excerpt from the review reads like: “A pulpy page-turner in its original incarnation (the book)…has become a stodgy, grim thing in the exceedingly literal-minded film version.”
Other reviews described the movie as “plodding”, “a dud” and “unwieldy”.
Occultists (believers in hidden knowledge) hypothesized that Jesus Christ had a wife long before the book: "Da Vinci Code" was published (see below). What's next? Will fans of Old Time Radio claim that Da Vinci had a time machine and had a Captain Midnight of Orphan Annie decoder badge? Carl:
In 1982 the occult potboiler Holy Blood, Holy Grail erupted into the literary world and caused a huge stir in theological circles. The major thesis of this work centered on the authors' contention that Jesus Christ may have been married, sired children and had descendants who eventually became the noble ruling houses of medieval and modern Europe. These Christ descendants are often referred to as the 'Jesus Bloodline' - which may also refer to the Savior's cousins and their offspring . This tome further asserted that various secret societies kept this knowledge within their belief systems and never revealed the facts concerning the Jesus Bloodline to the uninitiated. Even more astonishing was the authors' belief that this Jesus Bloodline secretly controlled the World's political and economic policy via these secret societies. The primary concern of this examination is to reconstruct a possible biological link between Christ's Family [be they direct descendants or the offspring of Jesus' cousins] and the royal houses of Modern Europe and to some influential Americans. It is hoped that this study will initiate debate in this neglected area. This examination will also explore the possibility that descendents of these royal houses still hold great political and economic power in democratic countries. At least one of these proclaimed descendants of Christ is currently seeking high political office in the United States. This conjecture draws from a variety of sources to proffer a different slant on this possible connection. In this regard a new interpretation of a medieval image will be proffered as another piece in this puzzle that Baigent, Leigh and Lincoln began to construct in their groundbreaking book Holy Blood, Holy Grail published over 20 years ago.
Tree of Jesse, St Denis Church, Paris depicting the lineage of Jesse through King David to Jesus The Davidic/Jesus Bloodline [33 ce to 340 ce] It is clear that Jesus Christ was of the bloodline of King David as evinced in the genealogy that starts Matthew's gospel. In this regard it was prophesied that the Messiah would emerge from the House of David and redeem the Jewish people. Early Christians recognized Jesus as this Messiah and believed he would return to reclaim the resurrected bodies of his followers in a Final Judgment of the living and the dead. Consequently, this Davidic connection is what gave Jesus authenticity during his lifetime and made him a threat to the Romans. As will be demonstrated this Davidic/Royal connection made the Romans fear the Christians for many centuries. It has been theorized that Jesus was married and fathered children. One point of Gospel evidence which suggests a wed Jesus comes with the fact that He was referred to as 'Rabbi' by His closest followers. [John 1: 37-39, 3: 1-3] In Judaism of that era to have the title 'Rabbi' a man must have been married. Celibate Jews, like John the Baptist, were never referred to as 'Rabbi' in ancient Palestine. The issue of a married Jesus is quite ancient and was in currency during the dawn of Christianity. It was not until Clement of Alexandria, in the 2nd Century, that any Christian leader denied that Jesus Christ was married. Clement believed that a married Jesus was inconsistent with His role as the Savior of the World, not that marriage would have disqualified Him, but rather, that His public ministry was too demanding to allow Him the opportunity for marriage. Consequently, Clement's rejection of a married Jesus clearly illustrates that many early Christians believed Jesus had a wife. However, this was not a matter of Church doctrine but fell more along the lines of a theological opinion. In this regard a married Jesus is of little concern to devout Christians. The defining features of Christianity - the Incarnation, Resurrection, Second Coming and Final Judgment are in no way nullified if Jesus were married and sired children.
'James the son of Joseph and brother of Jesus' At the very least Jesus did have some surviving ancestors via his blood relatives. [Mk 3:32; Matthew 13:55, 12:46, 13:55, Acts 1:14] It is clear that some faction of the Jesus family survived the Roman sacking of Jerusalem in 70 ce and fled Israel. A recently discovered stone funerary box called an 'ossuary' [used to store bones] from Palestine has been dated at 63 ce is inscribed with the name of the deceased - 'James son of Joseph Brother of Jesus'. The box itself is known as 'The James Ossuary '. This could be the same James the brother of Jesus mentioned in the Gospels. It is interesting that the scientific tests dated the inscription as being made in the year 63 ce. This would be about the time when Catholic Tradition claims that the Apostle James was stoned to death by a Jewish mob in Jerusalem for blasphemy. Normally, such inscriptions only mention the paternity of the deceased and do not mentioned any siblings. That is, unless the deceased had a brother who was very important . In that case the brother's name would be inscribed. The significance of this date is uncanny as it is within the range of Jesus' earthly life and He would have been important enough to be included on the funerary inscription of a relative. Consequently, this box may very well have been the final resting place of James the Brother [or cousin] of Jesus who led the newly formed Christian Church in Jerusalem and was killed for proclaiming that Jesus was the promised Messiah. This may be the most rock solid proof that being a blood relative of Jesus in the 1st century ce gave you a high degree of status among the membership of the fledgling Church. Julianus Africanus - who lived around 200 ce and was quoted in The Ecclesiastical History by Eusebius [260-340 ce] - states the following concerning the blood relatives of Jesus Christ: ...For the relatives of our Lord according to the flesh, whether with the desire of boasting or simply