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Post by Jaga on Apr 28, 2013 9:17:40 GMT -7
I worry that the future generations would not have social security or retirements left?
I worry about our stock market and these micro-minute transactions and that all of it would collapse.
I worry about the European Union and about the job market, some people who have several jobs have no medical care nor insurance.
What about you guys?
more personal worries - I worry that I am considered too old to get a real full-time job....
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Post by pieter on Apr 28, 2013 13:48:01 GMT -7
- The safety of my sister and her family in South-Africa, because life is dangerous there!
- My concerns about the quality of the written press and audio-visual media. How independent are they and what will be the role of quality research journalism will be in the near future?
- The role of fine art and culture in society next to the kitsch mass culture of mass production and commercial entertainment. Art history, art development, contemporary and old art and culture in general are dear subjects to me.
- There is a defect in humanity, men is the only Mammal in history with selfdestructive and genocidal tendensies. It is a sad fact in itself that I can't trust fellow human beings who kill other fellow human beings, because of their political affiliation, ethnic or cultural background, religion and social class. I am worried about the human capability to destroy humanity. There is a suicidal anti-human defect in human nature. In the next line I will call the causes in my opinion.
- Science is made sacret in modern culture. People have no limitations in what they want to create or destroy. The Modern homo sapiens has put himself on God throne. (1) Clone technology, (2) nano technology, (3) robotics, (4) gentechnology, no limitations to the (5) digitalisation and automatization of the world. If you link these technologies to eachother, you will come to a point where humans will be passed by very advanced robot clones of humans.
An example from science fiction
The Borg society could be a reality in the future. The Borg are a collection of species that have been turned into cybernetic organisms functioning as drones of the Collective, or the hive. A pseudo-race, dwelling in the Star Trek universe, the Borg force other species into their collective and connect them to "the hive mind"; the act is called assimilation and entails violence, abductions, and injections of cybernetic implants. The Borg's ultimate goal is "achieving perfection".
Individual Borg rarely speak. Instead, they send a collective audio message to their targets stating that "resistance is futile", followed by a declaration that the target in question will be assimilated and its "biological and technological distinctiveness" will be added to their own.
One phrase, from Star Trek: The Next Generation, is: "We are the Borg. We will add your biological and technological distinctiveness to our own. Resistance is futile."
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Post by karl on Apr 28, 2013 14:02:38 GMT -7
I worry that the future generations would not have social security or retirements left? I worry about our stock market and these micro-minute transactions and that all of it would collapse. I worry about the European Union and about the job market, some people who have several jobs have no medical care nor insurance. What about you guys? more personal worries - I worry that I am considered too old to get a real full-time job.... Jaga How well do I understand your feelings, and, your position at present in life. But,,,think for a bit what you have. You have your family,,a good husband,,your child and a nice home. You have so much to be thankful for... My self, will not compare of my experiences in life, for this would not be fair. For each of us was given only one chance at life, we each must in this respect, build as much as possible of our each respective time that is given to us. At this moment, it is a moment of disparity of your thoughts to your currant plight at this time. But, this time will pass and it is imperative to prepare your self for what you know is in your future. Your family is secure, your home is secure, your life is what you make of it. Your new life is not of the old, but in the realm of teaching young people with your experience so as in their life, they will have the tools of learning you will teach them, to strive forward with a clear mind. For these new people, will replace us in the world we leave for them. And you are an irreplaceable link in this chain of consequences. Karl |
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Post by Nictoshek on Apr 28, 2013 14:28:17 GMT -7
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Post by Jaga on Apr 28, 2013 20:48:41 GMT -7
Nictoe,
kids have other mass media but at least they need to read and communicate through texting, so reading does not go away.....I was in the experimental high school on Friday where kids were using laptops instead of the books, but they still had to look for info etc.... still, the system in this school seem to modern and too strange for what I was used to.
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Post by Jaga on Apr 28, 2013 21:01:29 GMT -7
Pieter,
I worry about you sister, I worry about these who decided to live in South Africa. It is a dangerous place.
People in Poland are also very disappointed in the mass media in Poland. We knew that it was bad during communism, but now it is even worse, since there is this continous push for sensationalism and stupidity.
Referring to people being the only one to destroy each other, I would not agree - dogs fight, cat fight, bears can eat their own. It is not just humans.
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Post by Jaga on Apr 28, 2013 21:03:14 GMT -7
Karl, I am so glad to have you here. I am not really in a desperate state of mind, but I think, I am just more honest about what I think about different things. Maybe you can say, that there is some type of a midlife crisis going on, when we have to find our soul again  |
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Post by pieter on Apr 29, 2013 10:04:44 GMT -7
Pieter, I worry about you sister, I worry about these who decided to live in South Africa. It is a dangerous place. People in Poland are also very disappointed in the mass media in Poland. We knew that it was bad during communism, but now it is even worse, since there is this continous push for sensationalism and stupidity. Referring to people being the only one to destroy each other, I would not agree - dogs fight, cat fight, bears can eat their own. It is not just humans. Jaga, Interesting and sincere reply. My sister fell in love with a South-African and moved to South-Africa one year before Apartheid fell, in 1993. South-Africa is dangerous, but also has good things. You can't compare it with the USA or Europe. Yes, she choose to live there and raise her children there. They are South-Africans, white African people. I am sorry to hear about the bad state of the mass media in Poland. That saddens me, because I thought that in a Free and democratic and good quality press and media (Radio, televisions, websites and social media) would emerge. You are right that animals hurt eachother too. They kill, wound and maim others of the same kind. Monkeys (Apes) even have human like behavior, they can kill other monkeys in a systematic matter. Some sort of monkey genocides. Living spieces are strange beings sometimes. Cheers, Pieter |
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Post by Jaga on Apr 30, 2013 12:41:06 GMT -7
Pieter,
I almost forgot that Netherland has a strong bond with South Africa. I am not surprised that your sister likes it there. I just hope that the chaos from Zimbabwe would not come the way to South Africa.
There was a time in 80s when many people from Poland were going there for work at the university and as a security guard.
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Post by kaima on May 1, 2013 8:03:06 GMT -7
With no intention to interrupt an ongoing conversation, I will inject my thoughts, and hope some others will give us their perspective as well.
I don't worry about the future. At the worst of times when I do, I think back on Socrates view:
“Our youth now love luxury. They have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for their elders and love chatter in place of exercise; they no longer rise when elders enter the room; they contradict their parents, chatter before company; gobble up their food and tyrannize their teachers.â€
He was right; the world has been going to hell in a hand basket for the last 3,000 years!
That gives me hope, and I carry on and get over the funk. My neighbor reminded me of the other negative that I don't let bother me. Her brand of Christianity insists The End is Near. I don't tremble, and rather like Bush, "I say Bring it On!" Who am I to question God's timing or decisions? But I am not so egotistical to think that the world will end in my lifetime. I live in a spot of geologic time.
About as negative as I get I re-experienced last week. I spent 2 or 3 hours visiting with an educated woman of 22 years, evidently bright with both bachelors and masters degrees. Yet I left the conversation feeling she was empty headed and hollow, shallow. Perhaps she has been so busy filling her head with formal education that she has not taken time to think and develop ideas.
She fits my old stereotype that a woman does not have enough life experience to be interesting until she is 30. (I fear to consider where that leaves more slowly maturing males!). Happily I got to know a 24 year old once who proved me wrong.
The most negative thing in life today I see as the dis-function of the US government. With our Super Power status in the world, that can be quite dangerous, and we have proven it can get out of control too easily, to the detriment of the world.
But to counter that I can remember I grew up in days when we were taught to hide under school desks if an atomic attack happened. We have since lived though vast cultural changes, drugs, AIDS, Terrorism.
The next generation faces some interesting challenges, as did we. I hope they do better! I cannot believe we screwed it up as badly as the previous ("Greatest Generation") did, but we managed!
Oh, Socrates!
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Post by Jaga on May 1, 2013 12:02:46 GMT -7
Kai, I read it. I agree that the youth is not worse than the elders. I spend some time with teens at school. They are smart and bright and caring, even if they do not know exactly where Poland is As for this woman. They are different people, some care more about the world outside, some live in the bubble. I do not think this really depends on the gender. I think I sometimes used to spend too much time thinking about events happening far away. Now at least I try to know what is going on in my small community in Idaho Falls. I still worry about the future since there seem to be no R&D and although we have enough food, where are the jobs? I also worry about the US. I think there would be soon more superpowers, China... but these new superpowers would not overpower the rest of the world.... |
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Post by karl on May 2, 2013 11:30:33 GMT -7
I was thinking of the question, in this manner, to think most what my worry/concerns are. The list was so much if perhaps written would have placed my body under a mound of paper.
Perhaps though, to place some perspective of guidelines as a map of concerns.
For one, for the most part, the past determines the present with out the formation of unknowns that would remove the lineal manner of expected events. From the present, to contend with how ever the past has brought us, to then confront the future with tools of the past.
Commensurately with the above, will always come the unexpected that has the tendency to toss the spanner into the gear box. To then give cause to then trash out what was known, to then do damage control for a new direction of thinking.
By choice and habit developed by necessity, I work alone, or so I thought. To be responsible for the actions and work of others, is tantamount to a daily dose of irritations.
But worse, is to stop for a few minutes, sip a bit of coffee, and think....I know how I got this far in life, but for the life of me, I have little idea how in the heck some young people with the best tools provided by our respective societies,,,managed to survive into the world they chose for their work.
If it is written, these people will glow like a little glow worm basking with such beautiful glimmers. But once a situation that is not written arrives like a sty in the eye, it becomes a triangle of unsolvable dimensions.
I think perhaps my point would be in answer to the original question of: What does worry you the most?
{Would be the inflexible manner of our new generation.}
These people are supposed to replace us as their former generation? The previous with certainty places a considerable amount of daught in my mind...Certainly would not enjoy to be dug up after finally getting a rest in death, to then be resurrected to once again face the torture of dealing with our replacements with skills they should have learnt in the first.
Karl
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