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Post by magicbless on Jun 8, 2015 22:24:44 GMT -7
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Post by Jaga on Jun 8, 2015 22:51:44 GMT -7
I think Russian people have some propensity to put their health in faith, hypnosis, there were some other people who apparently did not eat regular food in Russia, still they were surviving.
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Post by pieter on Jun 9, 2015 9:00:36 GMT -7
Jaga, I ask a maybe controversial question, but I ask it from a sincere and honest desire to know the truth and differences between people. For non-slavic, Germanic, Latin-Romanesque, North-American and maybe also Asian and African people it is often hard to destinguish between Slavic people, the Western Slavs, Eastern-Slavs and Southern-Slavs. They can't see the difference between Poles, Slovaks and Czechs for instance. Or 'worse' can't see the difference between Poles, Ukrainians and Russians. The same ofcourse in the case with non-West-Germanic, Non North-West-European people who can't see the difference between Germans, Dutch, Peoples, Flemish people and Danes. I ask this question, because from my first impression I didn't considered the images of Arthur Tomaszewicz or Turpanov to be Russian, but thought they were Polish. In the first seconds opening this thread. The images of this young man with the baseball hat and blue T-shirt could be made in Katowice, Nowa Huta near Krakow, a subburb of Poznań, Warszawa or Kraków. The architecture is the typical architecture of the Peoples Republics of the Comecon and Warsaw Pact countries during the cold war. It is interesting what you say about Russian people Jaga. I knew some Russians from the expat community in Amsterdam. They were very different than other people. What I remember from these Russians was the fact or observation that they were very attached and rooted in their culture, and the special sound, atmosphere and importance of their Russian language, in their poetry, music, literature, discussions (I didn't understand a word of ofcourse) and the fact of the Russian-Orthodox faith, religious songs and etc. Many of these Russians were secularists or atheists without being communists. There were anarchist artists and musicians amongst them, scientists, computer experts, entrepreneurs, painters, teachers, professors and etc. They indeed were the expat branch or the Russian intelligentsia in Saint Petersburg, Moscow and other Russian cities. They were cosmopolitans, academic people and great to have the privilege to have known then, having got the entrance to their world, subculture, community in Amsterdam via two female friends of mine who had both Russian men, a Spanish and a Dutch lady. Partly the Russians changed my view about Russians and partly they acknowledged my stereotypes of Russians I had from traveling to Poland (there were Russians on the train, Russians in East-Germany and Russians in Poland -not many, but they were there, also a half Russian friend of my mother who was typical Russian-). I agree with my mother who said, you do not have a typical Poles (you have Danish, German, Dutch looking Poles, and you have, Czech, SLovak slavic looking Poles, Armenian and Bulgarian dark looking Poles, an Poles with a French, Austrian/Bavarian Brunette look (Southern-German Alpine type) and Poles who look more Baltic, Belarussians or Ukrainian. With the Russian however my mother and I agreed you have the typical Russian face. It's hard to discribe, but we (my mother and I agreed) that there are subtle slavic, typical Russian elements in a Russian face that show you that he is a Russian. MInd you I knew Russians very well via these Dutch and Spanish girlfriends of mine. I went to their squat houses, apartments, Russian house or disco parties, a strange Russian bar in the periphery of the Red Light district and to another great Russian party place where they played live Russian, Ukrainian, Cossack, Yiddish and Russian Gypsy music. What a great time was it back then, and what a chance to meet these Russian intellectuals, dissidents, musicians, painters, excellent drawers, graphical artists, scientists, writers, poets, journalists. It was an incredible, unusual, fantastic group of people. Very different than the Dutch people of Amsterdam and very different than the other foreigners and migrants in Amsterdam. Completely different with their Russian creativity, intellect (smartness), slavic melancholy, romanticism, quintessence, musicality, being artistic, talented, and skillful people. They were part of the intellectual brain drain during the collapse of the SovjetUnion, escaping the mafia state, the nepotism, corruption and extortion of the Russia of that time. The time that the Oligarchs rose to power. Maybe you remember such an atmosphere from Kraków where you live and were raised in academic Polish intelligentsia circles Jaga, and in a city of culture, fine art (contemporary art), theatre (the famous experimental and innovative Polish theatre), philosophy, sciences, university students and their culture, and the old Polish and Habsburg (Austrian empire) atmopshere that must have been there. A little bit of the Russians reminded me of the small Polish artists community or cirlces I saw in Poznań, and maybe the cultural theatre actor uncle I had their, Wojtek Kalinowski. But Russians are different slavic than Poles. They are different but share some Slavic elements, mentalities and maybe spirituality. Pieters Poznań uncle Wojtek KalinowskiCheers, Pieter
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Post by pieter on Jun 9, 2015 12:37:36 GMT -7
Dear Magicbless, Turpanov or Arthur Tomaszewicz,
Welcome to this Forum and what can your contribution be, except from your presence? Most of the Forum members don't understand Russian here. So could you in a creative way at some blogger content, spiritual leader advices, DJ or music video's and model images on this Forum? Do you have Polish subjects or subjects on Polish-Russian relations or the Polish minority or the Polish diaspora in the Russian Federation?
Maybe it would be interesting if you could post or translate Russian opinions, articles or statemens about Poland, Ukraine and Lithuania on this Forum. The latter, because there is a historical connection between Poland and Lithuania. But posts and information about central- and Eastern-Europe (in English, Polish orGerman) are welcome too.
Cheers, Pieter
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