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Post by Nictoshek on Jun 19, 2015 14:47:39 GMT -7
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Post by Jaga on Jun 19, 2015 15:11:07 GMT -7
It is sad that we make fun of people just because the availability of mass media is infinite
I did not realize that Germans like herring just like Poles!
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Post by karl on Jun 19, 2015 19:12:01 GMT -7
The photo is not very flattering with a camera shot by a person of a little mind. Herring is good though, this is one of the carry overs from my childhood in Demark. That is pickled Herron or Lutefisk. In Denmark as with my self at present, is a quick lunch of Smorrebrod {open sandwich of dark bread or rye} with a few pickled herren toped upon. Not always of course, for to be polite, some folks do not enjoy the sight or smell whilst in the canteen at meal time, so it is grab and quickly leave to eat in the coffee room.
Karl
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Post by pieter on Jun 20, 2015 1:30:50 GMT -7
Herring is a symbol of the Nerherlands just like cheese and flowers. Probably it is as popular in the Netherlands as it is in Denmark, Germany and Poland?
Auction of the first herring barrel of 2015
Men of the sea, the fishing of the new herring
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Post by JustJohn or JJ on Jun 20, 2015 2:43:30 GMT -7
My favorite is schmaltz herring. My mother used to make it. Can't find the ingrediants anymore so now we are left with pickled herring in a jar.
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Post by Nictoshek on Jun 20, 2015 2:52:30 GMT -7
Me like German herring !
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Post by pieter on Jun 20, 2015 9:37:25 GMT -7
Nicetoe, The German herring looks delicious. I only have experiance with the Dutch herring. It is a kind of fish I eat every week on bread with unions like shown in my video's. Probably the German and Danish herring are pretty similar to the Dutch ones. The imnage of the German herring in on the tin is nice. I prefer fresh herring though. They have herring in tins and in jars too in the Netherlands. Sweet herringSour harringThe text on the jar reads ' Our national pride' Rolmops sour herring. In never eat herring from a tin or jar.
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Post by Nictoshek on Jun 20, 2015 10:00:25 GMT -7
Wow pieter, those look just absolutely MOUTHWATERING !
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Post by pieter on Jun 20, 2015 10:27:22 GMT -7
Dutch fishermen are very religious Dutch Reformed (Calvinist) people, but different kind of people than the also Dutch reformed farmers and town- and city middle class. They have their own villages or some small fishermen towns like Urk, Volendam or Arnemuiden. The herring fishermen is unfortunately a dying breed. The competition with Norway and other herring fishing countries is large. The Dutch herring fishing boats are large. This is a short movie about Dutch herring fishermen. Norway is the number one herring fishing country.
You see that they are fishing the herring, process the herring and have a factory on board which put the herring in plastic jars, and probably tins and barrels too. The guy in the white shirt tells the boy that they are searching for the right quality and the right fat herring to fish for the Dutch New Ones (Hollandse Nieuwe) of that year (2011). They monitorm where the Norwegian and Swedish competition fishes and montitor the quality of the fish the Norwegians and Swedes have cathed. At the end you see a Norwegian fisherboat in the distance. The fishing grounds where the Swedish fisherboats were fishing (in the movie) was better than where the Norwegians were fishing so the Dutch go to the place where the Swedes fished. Probably the Norwegians and the Swedes montitor the movements and fishing of the Dutch too and eachother. The film shows how professional these fishermen are, they measure, weight, check and conservate the fish, so that the Dutch and non-Dutch consumer of their products have the best quality of herring.
HOLLANDSE NIEUWE (Dutch New Ones) is a short movie about the last real herring fishermen of Netherlands. For over a thousand years a phenomenon in the Netherlands, "the Dutch new herring" (Hollandse Nieuwe) is part of our national culture. Every year millions of compatriots at home and abroad are looking forward to the arrival of the first keg. Although the Dutch economy in the middle ages still turned on the merits of the herring fishing, nowadays the Dutch herring fleet has sunk dramatically. Only two ships--the Wieringmeerpolder Wieringmeerpolder 5 and 6--by shipping company Jaczon from Scheveningen still sail under the Dutch flag on Hollandse Nieuwe. The other ships of Dutch shipowners fishing on herring are often fishing under foreign flag. Reason for the Queen to since 2003 no longer receive the "Queen's herring" on Queensday. (Today the King on Kingsday) The short movie (documentry) HOLLANDSE NIEUWE is told from within, in which the romance, companionship and herring is celebrated and where little by little, the disappearance of a last piece Hollands Glorie becomes clear. The language is Dutch, but the images tell the story. You actually don't need the language.
Fishermen must have a strong stomach, often six days a week on the sea
Sunday is the day of the Lord and rest for these Protestant (Calvinist) fishermen. They often go three times a day to the church, in the early morning, in the early afternoon and late afternoon. Both the New and Old testament are seen as important. A lot of the Protestant fishermen but also calvinist farmers have Biblical names next to commmon Dutch names.
The first new herring of the year comes to Scheveningen (near The Hague)
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Post by pieter on Jun 20, 2015 10:55:11 GMT -7
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Post by Nictoshek on Jun 20, 2015 11:13:00 GMT -7
Yeah I can imagine ! Fabulous fishing history pieter, thanks !
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Post by karl on Jun 20, 2015 12:45:52 GMT -7
Thank you both Nictoe and Pieter
Certainly brought back the memories of long past. For about 1.5 years, I did spend on the sea after graduation from the academy in Hamburg for my wheel house management license. I served on a stern trawler factury ship under a Norwegian captain. He was strict, but a good man. As Pieter has mentioned, fishermen are a different lot then land people. They have their own way of thinking and are very strong willed. One of the passages from being a landlubber to a fisherman, is the initiation by biting off the head of a herring. I am not sure if this was to be on Dutch fishing vessels, or if our Norwegian Captain brought this upon our vessel out of Cuxhaven. It was not pleasant but if a fresh herring was not available, then one that had been tinned would do, speaking for my self, not only bit off the head, but ate it as it was from a tin {Can}.
Ours was for cod only, for this was what the equipment was designed to handle. The catch in the morning was emmediatly processed, placed in storage, clean up, equipment serviced and supplies for then next catch set up. The equipment was automatic, but still required for considerable hand work to be done in processing. For each respective fish must be alighned on the fish line for the cutters to cut off the heads and insides removal. Then further down line, a preloaded tin {can} machine automatically alighns the cans open end up, to be hand packed as the line keeps moving and never stops. Further down line, the now filled tins are automatically topped and sealed then packed into a preasure cooker that cooks and sanitizes the tinned fish. Once taken out of the hot cooker, the tins are cooled, inspected for any flaws, crushed ends then packed for storage.
Fish cuttings, non species caught, fish parts and insides, are cooked, dryed, and ground up for fish meal. These are usually sacked up and stored on pallets and placed in storage.
Every three days, all fishing is stopped, and a complete dismantle of the equipment is done, then every thing is steamed cleaned/sanitized with a foam like spray, washed down and dryed. The equipment then is re-assembled, serviced and adjusted for the next fish run. In this time, the crews responsible for storage and maintaining supplies during processing have completed the numbers of the previous catch for the Captain includant tonnage of processed fish meal and a sack count.
Once again on a fish run, no one leaves the wheel house, for it is a bee hive of concentration with preset course/bottom soundings/radar readings and recording machines for the run, all are marked, dated with day and time marked.
For as my license includant for wheel house management, but for diesel electric power systems and hydrolics. As a manner of cross management experience, our Captain would reassign me to the officer/engineer to assist or follow his wishes in those areas. Some times as a wiper, most often to monitor the power systems and power out put adjustments as needed from the wheel house.
And yes, the first day out, I was usually sea sick until that evening.
It takes not long to understand the ship, for she has a life that is only for her self. Each hull, is similar, but not the exact same, for there will be irregularities that are minor, but have an effect on the completed vessel. In the wheel house, this will be noticed for a bit of power adjustment in direction to correct a slight pull one way or another. With this, there are pressure relief gaps usally in the forward and aft deck. These will move as the hull alignes its self with the sea movement. This is to keep the hull from creating fatigue breaks that would eventually lead to hull breakup. It is always a good idea to never never place you hand or foot into one of these hull pressure relief gaps, could lead to a very nasty surprise..
Karl
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Post by pieter on Jun 20, 2015 16:58:37 GMT -7
Wow pieter, those look just absolutely MOUTHWATERING ! It is a matter of taste Nicetoe. I am not so fond of sour herring from a jar or a tin, but other people like it.
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Post by pieter on Jun 20, 2015 17:15:40 GMT -7
Yeah I can imagine ! Fabulous fishing history pieter, thanks ! You are welcome Nicetoe. I grew up near the Fishermens town Arnemuiden. Fishermen kids were in my class in highschool. I don't remember if there were fishermens kids on my primary school and Kindergarten. Like I said her before the fishermen kids were different than the Dutch towns or city kids, and different than the farmers of the countryside. They had their own communities, their own churches, their own fishermens dialects (Volendams, Urks and Arnemuidens), and stayed with their own kind. In my school and class the Arnemuiden fishermen kids were clearly different due to their Arnemuiden dialect and their different attitude, mentality and approach to life. They were more direct, extravert and to the point than the farmer or town kids, who often were more introvert, closed and to themselves. Vlissingen was for a large part populated by Dock workers of the city wharf de Schelde, which provided 4500 jobs. In my town Vlissingen and not in their own Arnemuiden town the Arnemuidners have their Fishing fleet.
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Post by pieter on Jun 20, 2015 17:18:20 GMT -7
This is the town I spend the first 20 years of my life.
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