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Post by JustJohn or JJ on Feb 14, 2017 7:39:42 GMT -7
Political Correctness per Harry Truman
You will like this one!
Political Correctness per Harry
Truman What is meant by the modern term referred to as ‘POLITICAL CORRECTNESS’.
The definition is found in 4 telegrams at the Truman Library
and Museum in Independence, Missouri. The following are copies of four telegrams between President Harry Truman and Gen Douglas MacArthur on the day before the actual signing of the WWII Surrender Agreement in September 1945.. The contents of those four telegrams below are exactly as received at the end of the war - not a word has been added or deleted!
(1) Tokyo, Japan
0800-September 1,1945
To: President Harry S Truman
From: General D A MacArthur
Tomorrow we meet with those yellow-bellied bastards and sign the Surrender Documents, any last minute instructions?
(2) Washington, D C
1300-September 1, 1945
To: D A MacArthur
From: H S Truman
Congratulations, job well done, but you must tone down your obvious dislike of the Japanese when discussing the terms of the surrender with the press, because some of your remarks are fundamentally not politically correct!
(3) Tokyo, Japan
1630-September 1, 1945
To: H S Truman
From: D A MacArthur and C H Nimitz
Wilco Sir, but both Chester and I are somewhat confused, exactly what does the term politically correct mean?
(4) Washington, DC
2120-September 1, 1945
To: D A MacArthur/C H Nimitz
From: H S Truman
Political Correctnessis a doctrine, recently fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and promoted by a sick
> mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a piece of nuts by the clean end!
Now, with special thanks to the Truman Museum and Harry himself, you and I finally have a full understanding of what ‘POLITICAL CORRECTNESS’ really means.....
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Post by karl on Feb 14, 2017 11:32:21 GMT -7
J.J.
Interesting I must say and very historical.. I remember from school days of reading about President Trumen and wonder about him. As he appeared to be so brash and very impolite.
As a person, it is my own personal feelings and thought patterns of the term: Political Correctness. To my self, it is simply a term describing lying to another person to hide the truth. There is the manner of language used in deplomatic circles that is not political correctness, but directly speaking to the opposite in a manner that would not detract from direct meaning, but be non-reflective of one to the other. For it is not a personal matter, but language of representatives of not them selves as the speakers, but as being one or more representing the many.
But what is the term to mean of:To pick up a piece of nuts by the clean end? This is very confusing as a descriptive term..
Karl
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Post by kaima on Feb 14, 2017 13:52:35 GMT -7
Political Correctness per Harry Truman You will like this one! Political Correctness per Harry Truman What is meant by the modern term referred to as ‘POLITICAL CORRECTNESS’. The definition is found in 4 telegrams at the Truman Library and Museum in Independence, Missouri. The following are copies of four telegrams between President Harry Truman and Gen Douglas MacArthur on the day before the actual signing of the WWII Surrender Agreement in September 1945.. The contents of those four telegrams below are exactly as received at the end of the war - not a word has been added or deleted! (1) Tokyo, Japan 0800-September 1,1945 To: President Harry S Truman From: General D A MacArthur Tomorrow we meet with those yellow-bellied bastards and sign the Surrender Documents, any last minute instructions? (2) Washington, D C 1300-September 1, 1945 To: D A MacArthur From: H S Truman Congratulations, job well done, but you must tone down your obvious dislike of the Japanese when discussing the terms of the surrender with the press, because some of your remarks are fundamentally not politically correct! (3) Tokyo, Japan 1630-September 1, 1945 To: H S Truman From: D A MacArthur and C H Nimitz Wilco Sir, but both Chester and I are somewhat confused, exactly what does the term politically correct mean? (4) Washington, DC 2120-September 1, 1945 To: D A MacArthur/C H Nimitz From: H S Truman Political Correctnessis a doctrine, recently fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and promoted by a sick > mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a piece of nuts by the clean end! Now, with special thanks to the Truman Museum and Harry himself, you and I finally have a full understanding of what ‘POLITICAL CORRECTNESS’ really means..... John, that reads like total crap and it is total nuts. You act like a fool passing on unchecked crap like this. You are joining and strengthening the False News media with your brainless ( note I did not use the Politically Correct "thoughtless") repetition of this nonsense. You and people like you, gullible to the greatest degree, are a major problem weakening this Republic. If you can't recognize crap on your own, go to Snopes for an analysis. Google Snopes Truman political correctness It is such common crap that the results popped up before I finished typing it. Welcome to trump world, where the truth is anything you wish it to be at any moment. Kai |
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Post by karl on Feb 14, 2017 16:05:17 GMT -7
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Post by pieter on Feb 14, 2017 19:10:10 GMT -7
According to the encyclopedia Britannica political correctness is the following:
Political correctness (PC), term used to refer to language that seems intended to give the least amount of offense, especially when describing groups identified by external markers such as race, gender, culture, or sexual orientation. The concept has been discussed, disputed, criticized, and satirized by commentators from across the political spectrum. The term has often been used derisively to ridicule the notion that altering language usage can change the public’s perceptions and beliefs as well as influence outcomes.
The term first appeared in Marxist-Leninist vocabulary following the Russian Revolution of 1917. At that time it was used to describe adherence to the policies and principles of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union (that is, the party line). During the late 1970s and early 1980s the term began to be used wittily by liberal politicians to refer to the extremism of some left-wing issues, particularly regarding what was perceived as an emphasis on rhetoric over content. In the early 1990s the term was used by conservatives to question and oppose what they perceived as the rise of liberal left-wing curriculum and teaching methods on university and college campuses in the United States. By the late 1990s the usage of the term had again decreased, and it was most frequently employed by comedians and others to lampoon political language. At times it was also used by the left to scoff at conservative political themes.
Linguistically, the practice of what is called “political correctness” seems to be rooted in a desire to eliminate exclusion of various identity groups based on language usage. According to the Sapir-Whorf, or Whorfian, hypothesis, our perception of reality is determined by our thought processes, which are influenced by the language we use. In this way language shapes our reality and tells us how to think about and respond to that reality. Language also reveals and promotes our biases. Therefore, according to the hypothesis, using sexist language promotes sexism and using racial language promotes racism.
Those who are most strongly opposed to so-called “political correctness” view it as censorship and a curtailment of freedom of speech that places limits on debates in the public arena. They contend that such language boundaries inevitably lead to self-censorship and restrictions on behaviour. They further believe that political correctness perceives offensive language where none exists. Others believe that “political correctness” or “politically correct” has been used as an epithet to stop legitimate attempts to curb hate speech and minimize exclusionary speech practices. Ultimately, the ongoing discussion surrounding political correctness seems to centre on language, naming, and whose definitions are accepted.
Cynthia Roper
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Post by Jaga on Feb 16, 2017 4:59:27 GMT -7
this language reminds today politics rather. Did they use the word "media" 70 years ago in the same context we do today? Does it even sound like Truman?
+++From: H S Truman
Political Correctnessis a doctrine, recently fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and promoted by a sick
> mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a piece of nuts by the clean end!+++
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Post by Jaga on Feb 16, 2017 5:04:05 GMT -7
There is a website with real Harry Truman letters if you guys want to peak in. Quite different in style and writing. www.trumanlibrary.org/whistlestop/study_collections/personal/large/ww1_letters/pg_14_txt.htmNear Verdun, Camp La Baholle Dear Bess: December 14, 1918 It is a dark, unwholesome French day and I am frankly homesick and very, very lonesome. Christmas is approaching and I can't possibly see those I want to and I do so wish I could. I can't even send you a present that I'm sure you'll get, not even a cablegram. This devilish place is about seven kilometers from Verdun in a patch of woods. The sun hasn't shone in I don't know how many days nor does it look as if it ever intended to shine again. I guess it will though and I know it's shining in U.S.A. and at Nice. I am so glad you are a general. I shall always expect you to outrank me in our household and there is never any prospect of my ever being anything in the military line beyond a captain, although had the war continued, which God forbid, I should eventually have had another promotion. You tell Fred and May that I would have appreciated the major's leaves and the compliment very highly but I'd never have worn them. All promotions ceased in the A.E.F. on November 11, 1918, the greatest day in history. Personally I'd rather be a Battery commander than a brigadier general. I am virtually the dictator of the actions of 194 men and if I succeed in making them work as one, keep them healthy morally and physically, make 'em write to the mammas and sweethearts, and bring 'em all home, I shall be as nearly pleased with myself as I ever expect to be--until the one great event of my life is pulled off, which I am fondly hoping will take place immediately on my having delivered that 194 men in U.S.A. You'll have to take a leading part in that event you know and then for one great future. I've almost come to the conclusion that it's not intended for me ever to be very rich, nor very poor, and I am about convinced that that will be about the happiest state a man can be. To have the finest girl in all the whole world (and to make the statement without fear of contradiction) to share my joys and troubles, mostly joys I'm hoping, to have just enough of this world's goods to make it pleasant to try for more, to own a Ford and tour the U.S.A. and France perhaps, although I've nearly promised old Miss Liberty that she'll have to turn around to see me again, and still have a nice little country home to be comfortable in--well that's really not a hard fortune to contemplate. Maybe have a little politics and some nice little dinner parties occasionally just for good measure. How does it sound to you? Just its contemplation has almost cured me of the blues. ou know when I was a kid, say about thirteen or fourteen, I was a tremendous reader of heavy literature like Homer, Abbott's Lives, Leviticus, Isaiah, and the memoirs of Napoleon Bonaparte. Then it was my ambition to make Napoleon look like a sucker and I thirsted for a West Point education so I could be one of the oppressors, as the kid said when asked why he wanted to go there. You'd never guess why I had such a wild desire and you'll laugh when I tell you. It was only so you could be the leading lady of the palace or empire or whatever it was I wanted to build. You may not believe it but my notion as to who is the best girl in the world has never changed and my military ambition has ended by having arrived at the post of centurian. That's a long way from Caesar, isn't it? Now I want to be a farmer. Can you beat it? I'm hoping you'll like the rube just as well as you would have the Napoleon. I'm sure the farmer will be the happier. . . . You are probably bored stiff by this time but I am writing you just as I feel today. I do wish I could see you Christmas Day. I'll be thinking of you as I usually am anyway. I hope to have a better present for you next Christmas than the one I tried to send you this one. Keep on writing to one who thinks of you, Always, Harry |
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