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Post by rdywenur on Nov 14, 2006 4:08:21 GMT -7
Scatts, Got a recipe you can share. I remember when I was real real young my mom making a white broth type soup and remember only that it was sour. I have asked her recently about it as I read posts mentioning bialy barszcz and she has no memory of this. Maybe if I make some myself it will jar her memory back.
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Post by jeanne on Nov 15, 2006 19:19:30 GMT -7
Is the lamb cake actually a Polish tradition? I've been baking one for years at Easter. When I was a child and my father was a grocery store manager in Boston, the nuns from a nearby convent used to bring him one every Easter. That's why I bought a mold and started baking it when I had children. I had no idea it might be a Polish tradition!
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Post by gardenmoma on Nov 17, 2006 19:46:10 GMT -7
Jaga and all,
No, my mother and aunts definitely could not buy the fermented rye, so started their own. Perhaps a consistent commercial "starter" makes a diference in taste.
If I remember correctly, I bought a packet of prepared "bialy barsch" at the Polish deli near-by for a friend who likes it. She said it was good, but I never tasted it.
I bought the "butter lamb / holy lamd" last year at a local Ukranian church bazaar; however, I have a mold to make my own.
We are in VA now for two weeks staying with our youngest faughter and her family; will probably get a chance to visit with the other daughter and her family who live about 90 minutes away. Weather is nice - sunny and pleasant.
When I get back I will look up my mother's recipe for the barsch and print it here. I am starting in a weak way to get her recipes organized; pictures will probably take me about 40 more years!
GM
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Post by nancy on Nov 17, 2006 20:31:40 GMT -7
Is the lamb cake actually a Polish tradition? I've been baking one for years at Easter. When I was a child and my father was a grocery store manager in Boston, the nuns from a nearby convent used to bring him one every Easter. That's why I bought a mold and started baking it when I had children. I had no idea it might be a Polish tradition! Jeanne, I only know that this was an Easter tradition in our family. My Mother always made a cake in the shape of a lamb, and decorated it with the coconut frosting. I did not think it was Polish, until people here talked about the butter lambs (last year). All of a sudden, it seemed that having a lamb made of cake or butter was part of the Polish-American traditon. How it relates to Polish (not POl-AM) I am not sure. Uncle John, are you here? I think you had lamb-shaped cakes last year.
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Post by scatts on Nov 20, 2006 12:43:43 GMT -7
Rdy, I'm afraid not. It is Marta's mum who makes it and, to be honest, neither of them are much good at giving directions about anything. The liquid is a bit like zurek but creamier and inside you have the usual egg and kielbasa. It is probably best described as sour in taste but not very much so.
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Post by piwo on Nov 20, 2006 17:04:06 GMT -7
Is the lamb cake actually a Polish tradition? I've been baking one for years at Easter. When I was a child and my father was a grocery store manager in Boston, the nuns from a nearby convent used to bring him one every Easter. That's why I bought a mold and started baking it when I had children. I had no idea it might be a Polish tradition! Jeanne, I only know that this was an Easter tradition in our family. My Mother always made a cake in the shape of a lamb, and decorated it with the coconut frosting. I did not think it was Polish, until people here talked about the butter lambs (last year). All of a sudden, it seemed that having a lamb made of cake or butter was part of the Polish-American traditon. How it relates to Plish (not POl-AM) I am not sure. Uncle John, are you here? I think you had lamb-shaped cakes last year. My mom made the easter lamb cake every year, with coconut, as well. We still have the mold I think. I'll ask her to bring it with her on Thanksgiving, and I'll take a picture of it! I know she has the recipe, though hasn't made it for years now. We all hated the store bought coconut flakes as kids, and didn't eat it much
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Post by jeanne on Nov 20, 2006 19:18:56 GMT -7
My kids hated the coconut in the frosting as well, so I just make buttercream frosting for the lamb without the coconut! Still looks beautiful and tastes good! (the original cakes from my childhood that the nuns brought to my father did have the coconut frosting) I guess I compromise by having the lamb sit on a field of green food-coloring dyed coconut "grass"!
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Post by wujjohn on Nov 22, 2006 19:35:42 GMT -7
My grandmother always made the Lamb cake with coconut frosting. I don't like the coconut so I use butter cream frosting. I also make the butter lambs. I have two size molds, one is a quarter pound and the other is one pound. this is some that I made Here I have some of the butter lambs here are the type I raise.
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Post by bescheid on Nov 22, 2006 20:14:23 GMT -7
John
That was precious of you to share of your bakery skills and of those raising skills. The sheep look contented and happy with their masters care.
{was that not an Icelandic flag on the lamb cakes?}
Charles
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Post by wujjohn on Nov 23, 2006 3:23:49 GMT -7
The cakes have a banner. The ones you buy at the store have them, it is a religious custom. Some are red with a white cross and some are white with a red cross. I use less ink this way. John
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Post by rdywenur on Nov 23, 2006 4:06:19 GMT -7
John, Great work thanks for sharing with us. Another hidden talent. I love it. What do you raise your sheep for? Wool or eating (please say wool they are too cute to be eaten) Where did you acquire your molds for butter? I would like to get one.
Chris....Happy Thanksgiving !!!
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Post by wujjohn on Nov 23, 2006 6:44:44 GMT -7
Chris, I raise my sheep for wool, I do not eat them. I got the small butter mold at Polish Art Center in Hamtramck, Michigan. www.polartcenter.com If you look under Easter you will find they have a plastic one and two wooden ones. The one pound mold was given to me by a friend that lives in Nowy S¹cz.
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Post by Jaga on Nov 23, 2006 19:25:27 GMT -7
John,
these were really beautiful photographs. Your ship - these alive and these in sugar are equally charming and sweet! Thanks for sharing!
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Post by bescheid on Nov 23, 2006 20:38:05 GMT -7
The cakes have a banner. The ones you buy at the store have them, it is a religious custom. Some are red with a white cross and some are white with a red cross. I use less ink this way. John Thank you John, some thing so simple and not thought of what it actually for {To save ink} I was chuckling over your answer on that one. Also, my heart gladdened with your answer to chris question of the sheep. They do look very prized as pets. Speaking of wool. Some time past, I knew of some people purchasing only natural wool from raisers. Their answered reason to my question of why? They said, the wool being natural and not commericially processed, kept the lanalin intanct in the wool making it more durable and water repellant for sweaters, hats,scarves and such. Interesting Charles
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Post by rdywenur on Nov 24, 2006 16:14:21 GMT -7
Charles, My niece dated Fion the guy in the top foto. It just struck me that my niece's dog is named Gus and I am wondering if this might be him in the foto. This is my first time checking this page out. Gus stands about 10 feet tall on all fours (in other words he is huge but he is a big baby) I will have to find out if that is our Gustave Anyway they raise sheep for the mothers wool she spins and weaves. If I remember correctly she taught a class at Alfred also. All a very talented exxtremely nice family with strong heritage ties (as you can see from fotos) www.celtic-woodcraft.com/family.htm
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