Post by karl on Jan 27, 2019 13:15:25 GMT -7
There are several aspects to this situation, each would in respect lead in to a different facet of both fore seeable situations not good. One would be to let alone this issue and let nature take its course in time and events as they develop. Or, do as Mr. Trump is doing, and that is to back a contender to the office of President of The State of Venezuela.
This above is in front of the screen of smoke and mirriors for public consumption. For which ever action is taken, will of course bring about resulting events rather wished for or not.
The currant President of The State of Venezuela is Mr. Madura, rather he is a nice man is irrevalent, for he is president for how ever it may be. For this is the business of internal affairs of the State as it stands. With this, is the backing for some years by The Government of The Federation of The Russian Republic. For in this manner,for once again, one action creates another rather opposite or in line with the intent as proposed.
The entent that of Mr. Trumps in respect to his actions, is of course, speculative, for who as a human being, have the power to read the mind of another, we may only go by their actions as a predictive manner of intent. It is then to consider the large number of people leaving Venezuela in relation to recent extensive multitudes of crossing Mexico and gathering at the gates of the United States to enter then as immigrants.
What Mr. Trump wished not for, is more complications to his administration commensurate to his present troubles. For in short past, there have been some sword rattling by Mr. Putin with some fly bys of nuclear capable long range bombers not over, but close to American shores.
But to go on through the smoke screen
Trump pulls a surprise move in Venezuela
By DOYLE MCMANUS
JAN 27, 2019 | 3:00 AM
| WASHINGTON
www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-mcmanus-column-venezuela-20190127-story.html
www.scmp.com/news/world/americas/article/2177629/us-hysterics-after-russian-nuclear-capable-bombers-land
Trump pulls a surprise move in Venezuela
Venezuela's self-declared interim leader Juan Guaido, center, speaks to supporters at a rally at a plaza in Caracas on Saturday. (Adriana Loureiro Fernandez / For The Times)
At first glance, President Trump’s decision to recognize an upstart opposition leader as president of Venezuela looks like an abrupt and risky break from diplomatic norms — vintage Trump, in other words.
But it may be the most traditional foreign policy move this president has ever made.
Not merely because Trump is seeking regime change in a Latin American country; the United States has done that for more than a century.
And not because the intervention was aimed at a leftist government allied with Cuba, long a target of hawkish Republicans.
The surprisingly normal thing was how downright multilateral the Trump administration was acting — as if the president hadn’t spent two years denouncing alliances as obstacles to his doctrine of America First.
Before the United States declared Venezuela’s President Nicolas Maduro “illegitimate,” State Department diplomats carefully marshaled support from other governments in Latin America and beyond.
They allowed the 14-nation Lima Group, which doesn’t include the United States, to take the lead in building the case against Maduro’s regime.
On Thursday, Secretary of State Michael R. Pompeo went to the Organization of American States, the Western Hemisphere’s hoary multilateral talk-shop, to ask for a resolution of support. He didn’t get a majority, but at least he tried.
Pompeo asked the United Nations Security Council for support, too. A White House official even praised the European Union for helping. That would be the same EU Trump has repeatedly denounced as a plot against the U.S. economy.
“This could actually be a case where the administration has gotten something right,” said John D. Feeley, a former U.S. ambassador to Panama who has been an acerbic critic of Trump’s diplomacy. “It hurts to say that, but it’s true.”
The main reason our instinctively-unilateral president has suddenly resorted to traditional diplomacy is simple: Few other options are available.
From his first days in office, Trump and his aides identified Venezuela’s leftist regime as a threat to U.S. interests. Maduro is allied closely with Cuba, Russia and China. His government controls the world’s largest proven oil reserves, larger even than Saudi Arabia’s.
Yet economic mismanagement, corruption and skyrocketing crime under Maduro have brought the country to its knees. Millions of Venezuelans have fled to neighboring countries, creating a genuine refugee crisis.
When Trump got his first White House briefings on Venezuela, he asked whether U.S. military intervention would solve the problem. Worried aides told him an invasion would be disastrous.
“DOD [the Defense Department] said they were fighting enough wars already,” one told me.
U.S. officials then held a series of clandestine meetings with dissident Venezuelan military officers. But it wasn’t clear if they were capable of launching a coup d’etat — and, in any case, the officers were soon arrested.
That left diplomacy and economic pressure.
State Department officials encouraged the Lima Group to organize multilateral pressure against the Maduro regime. It was important that other countries took the lead to avoid making the effort look like U.S. imperialism.
“The Colombians and the Canadians were the ones who drove the process,” Feeley, who is now works for Univision, the Spanish-language television network, told me.
A turning point came on Jan. 4, when 13 of the 14 Lima Group countries jointly declared Maduro illegitimate. That opened the way for the head of Venezuela’s legislature, Juan Guaido, to declare himself “interim president.”
Now the U.S. Treasury Department is preparing an innovative new economic sanction: an effort to divert the cash Venezuela earns from oil exports away from Maduro to Guaido’s alternative government. The goal is to divide the regime, including its military, and bring about its collapse.
There’s no guarantee the plan will work. The oil revenue scheme could be blocked by lawsuits. Maduro’s forces could turn U.S. diplomats in Caracas into hostages. The regime could prove more resilient than expected.
But the nimble diplomacy of the United States and its allies has created a better chance of ousting Maduro without violence than before.
And it won the Trump administration praise from unexpected quarters; Sen. Richard J. Durbin (D-Ill.), the second-ranking Democrat in the Senate, and Rep. Adam B. Schiff (D-Burbank), chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, both endorsed the move.
It may even have a chance of teaching Trump a larger lesson: When the United States can’t get its way through unilateral action, old-fashioned alliances and multilateral organizations still come in handy.
That principle helped much of the world stay peaceful since the end of World War II. It should come in especially handy in an era when U.S. military and economic power is less dominant than before.
Or maybe not. On Thursday, Trump’s national security advisor, John R. Bolton, was asked by a reporter why the United States was intervening in Venezuela and not against other authoritarian regimes.
Bolton gave a brief nod to multilateralism, citing support for the U.S. position from Latin America and Europe. Then he offered another rationale —perhaps the oldest unilateralist principle in U.S. foreign policy, the Monroe Doctrine of 1823.
"The fact is Venezuela is in our hemisphere," Bolton said. "I think we have a special responsibility here.”
Presenter
Karl
This above is in front of the screen of smoke and mirriors for public consumption. For which ever action is taken, will of course bring about resulting events rather wished for or not.
The currant President of The State of Venezuela is Mr. Madura, rather he is a nice man is irrevalent, for he is president for how ever it may be. For this is the business of internal affairs of the State as it stands. With this, is the backing for some years by The Government of The Federation of The Russian Republic. For in this manner,for once again, one action creates another rather opposite or in line with the intent as proposed.
The entent that of Mr. Trumps in respect to his actions, is of course, speculative, for who as a human being, have the power to read the mind of another, we may only go by their actions as a predictive manner of intent. It is then to consider the large number of people leaving Venezuela in relation to recent extensive multitudes of crossing Mexico and gathering at the gates of the United States to enter then as immigrants.
What Mr. Trump wished not for, is more complications to his administration commensurate to his present troubles. For in short past, there have been some sword rattling by Mr. Putin with some fly bys of nuclear capable long range bombers not over, but close to American shores.
But to go on through the smoke screen
Trump pulls a surprise move in Venezuela
By DOYLE MCMANUS
JAN 27, 2019 | 3:00 AM
| WASHINGTON
www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-mcmanus-column-venezuela-20190127-story.html
www.scmp.com/news/world/americas/article/2177629/us-hysterics-after-russian-nuclear-capable-bombers-land
Trump pulls a surprise move in Venezuela
Venezuela's self-declared interim leader Juan Guaido, center, speaks to supporters at a rally at a plaza in Caracas on Saturday. (Adriana Loureiro Fernandez / For The Times)
At first glance, President Trump’s decision to recognize an upstart opposition leader as president of Venezuela looks like an abrupt and risky break from diplomatic norms — vintage Trump, in other words.
But it may be the most traditional foreign policy move this president has ever made.
Not merely because Trump is seeking regime change in a Latin American country; the United States has done that for more than a century.
And not because the intervention was aimed at a leftist government allied with Cuba, long a target of hawkish Republicans.
The surprisingly normal thing was how downright multilateral the Trump administration was acting — as if the president hadn’t spent two years denouncing alliances as obstacles to his doctrine of America First.
Before the United States declared Venezuela’s President Nicolas Maduro “illegitimate,” State Department diplomats carefully marshaled support from other governments in Latin America and beyond.
They allowed the 14-nation Lima Group, which doesn’t include the United States, to take the lead in building the case against Maduro’s regime.
On Thursday, Secretary of State Michael R. Pompeo went to the Organization of American States, the Western Hemisphere’s hoary multilateral talk-shop, to ask for a resolution of support. He didn’t get a majority, but at least he tried.
Pompeo asked the United Nations Security Council for support, too. A White House official even praised the European Union for helping. That would be the same EU Trump has repeatedly denounced as a plot against the U.S. economy.
“This could actually be a case where the administration has gotten something right,” said John D. Feeley, a former U.S. ambassador to Panama who has been an acerbic critic of Trump’s diplomacy. “It hurts to say that, but it’s true.”
The main reason our instinctively-unilateral president has suddenly resorted to traditional diplomacy is simple: Few other options are available.
From his first days in office, Trump and his aides identified Venezuela’s leftist regime as a threat to U.S. interests. Maduro is allied closely with Cuba, Russia and China. His government controls the world’s largest proven oil reserves, larger even than Saudi Arabia’s.
Yet economic mismanagement, corruption and skyrocketing crime under Maduro have brought the country to its knees. Millions of Venezuelans have fled to neighboring countries, creating a genuine refugee crisis.
When Trump got his first White House briefings on Venezuela, he asked whether U.S. military intervention would solve the problem. Worried aides told him an invasion would be disastrous.
“DOD [the Defense Department] said they were fighting enough wars already,” one told me.
U.S. officials then held a series of clandestine meetings with dissident Venezuelan military officers. But it wasn’t clear if they were capable of launching a coup d’etat — and, in any case, the officers were soon arrested.
That left diplomacy and economic pressure.
State Department officials encouraged the Lima Group to organize multilateral pressure against the Maduro regime. It was important that other countries took the lead to avoid making the effort look like U.S. imperialism.
“The Colombians and the Canadians were the ones who drove the process,” Feeley, who is now works for Univision, the Spanish-language television network, told me.
A turning point came on Jan. 4, when 13 of the 14 Lima Group countries jointly declared Maduro illegitimate. That opened the way for the head of Venezuela’s legislature, Juan Guaido, to declare himself “interim president.”
Now the U.S. Treasury Department is preparing an innovative new economic sanction: an effort to divert the cash Venezuela earns from oil exports away from Maduro to Guaido’s alternative government. The goal is to divide the regime, including its military, and bring about its collapse.
There’s no guarantee the plan will work. The oil revenue scheme could be blocked by lawsuits. Maduro’s forces could turn U.S. diplomats in Caracas into hostages. The regime could prove more resilient than expected.
But the nimble diplomacy of the United States and its allies has created a better chance of ousting Maduro without violence than before.
And it won the Trump administration praise from unexpected quarters; Sen. Richard J. Durbin (D-Ill.), the second-ranking Democrat in the Senate, and Rep. Adam B. Schiff (D-Burbank), chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, both endorsed the move.
It may even have a chance of teaching Trump a larger lesson: When the United States can’t get its way through unilateral action, old-fashioned alliances and multilateral organizations still come in handy.
That principle helped much of the world stay peaceful since the end of World War II. It should come in especially handy in an era when U.S. military and economic power is less dominant than before.
Or maybe not. On Thursday, Trump’s national security advisor, John R. Bolton, was asked by a reporter why the United States was intervening in Venezuela and not against other authoritarian regimes.
Bolton gave a brief nod to multilateralism, citing support for the U.S. position from Latin America and Europe. Then he offered another rationale —perhaps the oldest unilateralist principle in U.S. foreign policy, the Monroe Doctrine of 1823.
"The fact is Venezuela is in our hemisphere," Bolton said. "I think we have a special responsibility here.”
Presenter
Karl