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Post by pieter on Mar 28, 2019 7:41:38 GMT -7
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Post by pieter on Mar 28, 2019 7:49:17 GMT -7
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Post by pieter on Mar 28, 2019 8:09:13 GMT -7
Pegida Netherlands demonstation with Dutch and German members in the Dutch city of Enschede
Left vs right in Amsterdam
The people shout in Dutch 'We are the people' and 'No Jihad in our city'
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Post by pieter on Mar 28, 2019 8:33:35 GMT -7
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Post by karl on Mar 28, 2019 13:09:37 GMT -7
Pieter
It is for as your video presentations represent, there is a beginning of changes in the wind. I do realize you are not so much in favour of Mr.Thierry Baudet and this is our Democratic manner of freedom, to speak out with our own thoughts to add to the whole with out fear with respect to what others have to say.
Yes, Mr. Baudet is young in years, brash in manners, this I do agree with. But, at least he has the courage to speak out with a plan. This is I must say, in opposite of many others who would wish to take the safe side and only parrot ideas of others. We are entering a side of our history of changes in the wind, some would wish not to be whilst others are needed.
The double sided sword, is Immigrants. There are too many and most are of the welfare type. With their problems and cost against the welfare payments are payed for by the brow sweat of working people. Whilst, and my self am not sure of the available pool of Dutch workers to fill the needs of your industry, but this is an issue in Danmark and beginning to show an ugly face in Germany. There is a need for not just immigrants, but those with skills to fill the needs of industry.
What the above is an indication of, is for new energy in our respective leadership with workable plans that are complete and ready to place in to action. For if this is not done, the public will make these decisions in their place and this is not the way to sail a ship when the seas become choppy.
If the far right has a better idea, then so be it, run with it, if not, then bring in to the spot light, a better idea. What we need, is good workable plans and not just ideas. In Germany, there is a split between those who hate the AfD and those that love it. So be it, if we are to live under the grey skies of history and the war, we are lost, we need the light of those to insure of our Democracy and Freedom, Freedom of free will.
I realize the above is simply a matter words, but, words are thoughts placed in the medium of words and an Idea is sharper then a word.
Karl
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Post by pieter on Mar 29, 2019 1:14:05 GMT -7
Dear Karl,
Again I read with interest your opinion and that opinion written down well in the text/letter written to me. I do agree that a beginning of change is in the wind. But that change comes from Communicating vessels from both sides of the Isle. One one side you have the leftwing populist Socialist Party and the (immigrant) party Denk (Think) and on the other side you have Forum for Democracy and the Freedom party (PVV). I am not so much in favour of Mr.Thierry Baudet, because his message is to extreme, and although he made a major victory durting the Provincial elections last week, he hasn't got the experienced and well known candidates for the States-Provincial (in Dutch: Provinciale Staten, abbreviated PS – commonly known as simply the Staten) the provincial parliament and legislative assembly in each of the provinces of the Netherlands.
People doubt if he has enough qualified people, to fill the States-Provincial and the First Chamber (Senate) in the Hague. Forum for Democracy, Thierry Baudet, will have to prove themselves in the reality of politics, achievements, policy making and decision making. He has relatively new people in the Senate (First Chaimber of the House of Parlaiment) and in the the States-Provincial. The people voted for change, conservatism and nationalism in their vote for Baudet. I don't agree with you that the other politicians and parties would wish to take the safe side and only parrot ideas of other (political correct) politicians. You have significant differences between the political parties and each party tries to conquer his/her place under the skylight of the universe of the political spectrum.
It is a tough and exhausting battle, and political parties and politicians will have to make clear what they want, where they stand for and what they want to achieve and how they will achieve that in a pragmatic way. Budgetary, accountant wise, calculated, founded, solid, sincere, realistic, in the sense that people want to know how they will achieve their program and promises and if they will stick to their promises and if they can make good political deals and are good and tough negotiators. The Dutch voter is very critical, look at the Dutch SPD, the Social Democratic Labour Party PvdA, if you compare it to Germany, in the German sense the SPD would have become the seize of the FDP. From a large and dominant party who was a decisive force in many Dutch coalition cabinets, the PvdA has become one of the smaller fractions in parliament. A little bit the same with the Christian Democratic Party, the CDA, from the largest parties in the past today the CDA is just one of the political parties.
The conservative liberal VVD party which was always one of the three major parties in the past (PvdA, CDA and VVD), but never the largest in the seventies, eighties or nineties, today is the largest party, and it has been the largest party for years now. Partly because the popular prime minister is a pragmatic liberal, a communicator and a guy who has connection with his VVD base in the country, but also with other Dutch people. Like in Denmark the centre-right (VVD and CDA) and the right/far right PVV (Geert Wilders)/Forum for Democracy (Thierry Baudet) are dominant today. Thierry Baudet is an intellectual, a traditional, nearly alt right (or New Right) kind of figure, who attracts young people and disappointed PVV supporters, supporters of the Centrist (moderate) D66 party, new voters and some votes of the other parties. In the long term Baudet won't find support from the traditional working class and middle class. These people will feel more attracted to the PVV, VVD and some will continue to vote for the leftwing and centre-left Socialist Party (SP), Labour Party (PvdA) and GreenLeft.
Dutch intellectuals often vote for the Labour Party (PvdA) and GreenLeft, the Socialist Party (SP), the D66 (Democrats 66), or the Party for Animals. So in contrast with Germany the rightwing populist vote in the Netherlands is split between the PVV and Forum for Democracy. The PVV on the long term has the benefit of longer experience, longer training, and the fact that Geert Wilders has decades of political experience now. The benefit of Thierry Baudet is that he has some strong rightwing intellectuals and professionals in this party movement Forum for Democracy.
The near future will show us how Forum for Democracy with 2 seats in the House of Common (Second Chaimber), their people in the senate and their people in the provinces (the States-Provincial) will operate and if they are being succesful in their political discourse and achievements.
Cheers, Pieter
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Post by pieter on Mar 29, 2019 11:46:06 GMT -7
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Post by pieter on Mar 29, 2019 11:58:08 GMT -7
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Post by pieter on Mar 29, 2019 12:25:14 GMT -7
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Post by pieter on Mar 29, 2019 12:28:20 GMT -7
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Post by pieter on Mar 29, 2019 12:30:01 GMT -7
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Post by pieter on Mar 29, 2019 12:31:15 GMT -7
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Post by pieter on Mar 29, 2019 13:24:33 GMT -7
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Post by Jaga on Mar 29, 2019 23:19:35 GMT -7
Karl and Pieter, good to hear some optimism in Karl's voice about the eelctions saying that that Mr. Baudet at least says what he thinks. Pieter, nice videos about populism. There are so many flavors of populism and in today world these forces dominate the politics. I agree with Pieter that this guy may not have enough qualified people to fill up the posts. Pieter's commentaries are so mature - I wonder whether you should try to post it as editorials in the newspaper where you live since your understanding of the situation is really good and indepth.
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Post by pieter on Mar 30, 2019 1:54:11 GMT -7
Dear Jaga,
Thank you for your compliment. I will say something which might surprise you. I find Dutch a more difficult language to express myself than English. Dutch is a more obstinate, difficult, intricate language to write in. Of course I use Dutch daily and also professionaly in making voice overs, news text for our broadcast (RTV-Arnhem) corporation page. For some reason, English is my second language and a language I can find better words and expressions sometimes to describe myself. In Dutch you use other linguistic constructions to reach the point you want to get to. Dutch journalists, politicians who use language, Public relations people, teachers and theatre and Radio/TV personalities are very thoroughly trained, very perfectionist in the Dutch language. It is not an easy language Dutch, but my native language and I have to live and work with it.
Other Dutch people have the same thing I have. Some musicians can write better English lyrics and singer better in English, other ones manage to write Dutch songs and sing them. German and Dutch for me are more difficult than English, but it could be true that I know more Dutch words, because it is my first language. Dutch critics of things I write in Dutch are very fierce, and they should be. But friends, colleagues and acquaintances told me to to write more professionally in Dutch. I won't count out that I might write a blog in Dutch or for certain press mediums, but today I am in the Audio visual business and all my time goes in camerawork, editing and voice overs.
Sometimes I person has to put more effort in speaking, writing or expressing him/herself in another language. Maybe therefor these not-native speakers are very focussed on finding words and sentences in the other language. English is my second language, German my third, and French could have been my forth if I had maintained it. For some crazy reason, I use the creative metaphor of an artists, a painter and a sculpturists, who paint and carve, it is easier to paint or carve paintings or sculptures of beautiful foreign landscapes, cities and people than to see the beauty, content and quintessence in your own environment. Look at Willem de Kooning and Piet Mondrian who moved to the USA, Vincent van Gogh who moved to France, and became fluent English and French speakers and who wrote in these languages. Look at Joseph Conrad (Polish: [ˈjuz̪ɛf ˌkɔn.rad]; born Józef Teodor Konrad Korzeniowski; 3 December 1857 – 3 August 1924) one of the best English language writers in the world. His novel Heart of Darkness was one of my favorite English language books I read for my English final exams at highschool.
Cheers, Pieter
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