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Post by Jaga on Sept 28, 2006 11:00:45 GMT -7
The most important denomination in Poland after Catholic and probably orthodox is the evangelical-augsburg church (lutheran). The previous Polish prime-minister - Jerzy Buzek from Bielsko was a member of this church. This church is regional, that means it is dominating among Poles who lived under German rule in Northern part of Poland (Mazury, Pomorze) and in Silesia www.luteranie.pl/eng/index.htmbut there are other evangelical churches in Poland. John Chmielewski sent me some pictures and I will try to post it to you soon!
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Post by Jaga on Sept 28, 2006 11:07:36 GMT -7
Here are the picures by John Chmielewski. This church is an example of a typical German neo-gothic style:
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Post by Jaga on Sept 28, 2006 11:07:56 GMT -7
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Post by pieter on Sept 28, 2006 11:37:47 GMT -7
Nice church Jaga, thanks for posting, not many people know about Protestantism in Poland, because most people are Catholic.
Pieter
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Post by bujno on Sept 28, 2006 12:14:35 GMT -7
No just Jerzy Buzek, Jaga. To bame just a few famous Polish protestants I remember - Jerzy Pilch, Henryk Tomaszewski, W³adys³aw Anders, Stefan ¯eromski, Jan Szczepañski, Adam Ma³ysz. Józef Pi³sudski was a protestant that converted to catholicism. And many many more. In one of the main, and very beatiful squares of Warsaw, just next to the famous Zachêta Gallery stands the Evangelic-Augsburg Church - Koœció³ Ewangelicko-Augsburski p/w Sw. Trójcy. The church was put on fire by Germans in September 1939 and major part was destroyed. It was rebuild after 1945 by Varsovians coming back to the city. www.stalus.iq.pl/show.php/idc/14/ida/385You need to press 'DZIŒ' to see how the church looks today. There are regular concerts of organ music at Koœció³ Œw. Trójcy, I often have a pleasure to attend. The organ is rather small, but has a good tone.
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Post by bescheid on Sept 28, 2006 14:30:10 GMT -7
Jaga My first reaction upon first observing your photos of this church, was: What a wonderful Church! I like the architectural design, it is simple, elegant with organized structure. Then I see it is {Neo-Gothic}. No wonder I liked it immediately . Well, it is a wonderful Church and a beautiful building. Charles
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Post by Jaga on Sept 30, 2006 22:20:43 GMT -7
Hi Bujno, I did not say that only Buzek is a protestant There are many, I did not know about Malysz being a protestant, interesting. He comes from this most protestant region of Poland. Pilsudski was a catholic but he converted to protestantism only because he wanted to marry a divorcee - so it is hard to call him a real protestant.
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Post by scatts on Oct 8, 2006 1:55:29 GMT -7
Pilsudski and Henry VIII obviously have something in common then.
Real Protestant = Catholic who does not like the rules ?
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Post by bujno on Oct 8, 2006 2:47:07 GMT -7
That's a very good observation However the Polish specialist for creating national religion was Piotr Skarga. In contrast to Henry VIII he didn't succeed.
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Post by pieter on Oct 8, 2006 3:30:50 GMT -7
Piotr SkargaPiotr Skarga (Lithuanian: Petras Skarga), (February 2, 1536 – September 27, 1612; actual name: Piotr Poweski; referred to in some English sources as Peter Skarga) was a Polish Jesuit, preacher, hagiographer, polemicist, and leading figure of the Counter-reformation in the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth. He was called the " Polish Bossuet" due to his oratorical abilities. Educated at Grójec and Kraków, he began life as a tutor to the family of Andrew Tenczynski, castellan of Kraków, and, some years later, after a visit to Vienna, took orders, and from 1563 was attached to the cathedral church of Lwów. His oratory was so successful that he determined to become a missionary-preacher among the people, in order the better to combat the social and political evils of the day. By way of preparation he studied theology in Italy from 1568 to 1570, and finally entered the Society of Jesus. On his return he preached successively at Pultusk, Jaroslaw, and Plock under the powerful protection of Queen Anna Jagiellon. During a subsequent mission to Lithuania he converted numerous noble families, including the Radziwills. He became the first rector of the Wilno Academy in 1579, where he wrote the Lives of the Saints (Zywoty swietych), which is still popular reading today. In [[1584] he was transferred to the new Jesuit College at Kraków, and in 1588 he became court preacher to King Sigismund III Vasa (a position he would hold until 1611), and thus sometimes preached to the Sejm (parliament). The nobility (Polish: szlachta) ascribed to him a great (and baleful: he advocated strong royal authority) influence on King Sigismund. Skarga is remembered by Poles as a vigorous early advocate of reforms to the Polish-Lithuanian polity and as a critic of the Commonwealth's governing classes. He advocated the strengthening of the monarch's power at the expense of Sejm, magnates and szlachta. His name " Skarga", which in Polish means, " accusation", is likely because of this career as a reformer and critic. The loose translation of his name would therefore be " Peter the Accuser". He established or enlarged many Catholic charitable societies and Jesuit schools. pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piotr_Skarga_%28kaznodzieja%29
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Post by scatts on Oct 8, 2006 13:23:28 GMT -7
And here he is preaching to the skateboarders!
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Post by bescheid on Oct 8, 2006 15:29:16 GMT -7
And here he is preaching to the skateboarders! Well I would only suppose that skat boarders are people also. Must remember, we had a 30 years war caused from Herr Martin Luther nailing up all those nasty letters upon the Catholics doors, quite some years back, and bingo, there came about the protestant religion. If you really want a change, and really are into it, then it must be done and not just a talk about nothing. Then there is this guy named Martin Luther King {I do not believe there is a relationship} in the US, he died for his beliefs as a religious preacher turned politician. Not so sure I as a person would have the courage to go that far at expense of my life, for dieing is a scary thing to think of. Charles
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