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Post by pieter on Oct 9, 2019 3:19:57 GMT -7
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Post by pieter on Oct 9, 2019 3:24:10 GMT -7
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Post by pieter on Oct 9, 2019 3:25:24 GMT -7
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Post by pieter on Oct 9, 2019 3:29:29 GMT -7
Despite their differences the Syrian Kurds, Iraqi Kurds, Iranian Kurds and Turkish Kurds share the same dream of a united Kurdistan
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Post by pieter on Oct 9, 2019 4:10:23 GMT -7
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Post by pieter on Oct 9, 2019 4:12:04 GMT -7
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Post by pieter on Oct 9, 2019 7:22:45 GMT -7
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Post by pieter on Oct 9, 2019 9:13:04 GMT -7
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Post by pieter on Oct 10, 2019 4:28:34 GMT -7
Tension also rising between the EU and European countries one one side who are concerned about the safety of the Kurd, Assyrian Christian and Arab population in the area and about the stability in Syria. Fears are rising that ISIS fighters might escape prison camps and prisons and regroup. A majority of the political parties in the Dutch parliament called for sanctions against Turkey. Turkey threatens to sent it's 3.5 million Syrian refugees to Europe. Tensions rise in the region and in Europe and the USA. Ethnic Kurd minorities in Europe are planning protest actions.
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Post by Jaga on Oct 10, 2019 4:56:58 GMT -7
Pieter, this was a surprising move by Trump to suddenly withdraw the troops. There might be that business in Turkey is too good for Trump to offend Turkey: www.newsweek.com/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-trump-syria-financial-conflicts-interest-withdrawing-military-1464178Ocasio-Cortez is not the first to suggest that Trump's decision is based on his own personal financial interests. The Trump Organization, which the president is still the sole owner of, despite having transferred the day-to-day management to his children, has numerous business interests in Turkey, including Trump Towers in Istanbul. The president's business has described the development as "a landmark in the historic city of Istanbul." When the building opened in 2012, Erdogan attended the event. Trump's daughter and senior adviser, Ivanka Trump, even tweeted her personal thanks to Erdogan, who was prime minister at the time.
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Post by karl on Oct 10, 2019 10:23:36 GMT -7
Pieter It appears of a new situation in the matter of the Turkish move in to Syria. Of course as with most situations of both a political nature mixed with military, there is the reason and excuse for such a situation that we are viewing at this time. It would appear, at least upon the surface, an excellent move upon the part of Turkey, to remove the Kurdish fighters away from the Turkish border with has been for some years, a stye in their eye. With this, a handy area to rid of the many Syrian war refugees off their hands. The Americans at this time, are fairly much out of the picture of influence in the region being as it appears to be, in the hands of the now big three, being Russia, Turkey and Iran. How this sets with the Saudis and Israeli respective governments is yet to be seen. As being mixed in to the stew pot is upon 30th Oct. 19, The Syrian 150 member constitution committee is set for a meeting at the UN headquarters in Geneva in view of new elections and changes in the currant constitution. It is of good hope as with this mix, the pot will not boil over... www.irishtimes.com/news/world/middle-east/turkey-s-invasion-of-syria-presents-dilemma-for-russia-1.4045397Karl
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Post by pieter on Oct 10, 2019 12:52:34 GMT -7
Karl,
I know both Turks and Kurds very well. Kurds are like the Vietcong in Vietnam, like the Mau Mau of Kenya ( en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mau_Mau_Uprising ), the Afghan Mujahideen who fought against the Brits, the Sovjets, the Taliban and against each other and who can't be defeated, because they are fierce, proud and tough fighters, the Afrikaander Boer commando's who fought against the British colonialist in South-Africa and the Warsaw Getho fighters in April 1943 and the soldiers of Armia Krajowa in August, September and October 1944.
The Turks may win on the short term with their military superiority, but they will face a backlash in Turkey and in Europe where Kurds will attack Turkish police officers, army soldiers and officers and civil servants in Turkish state buildings. The Kurds have the sympathy of many Americans and Europeans and many Israeli's. The Kurds are a people without a homeland and people without a homeland always put up a great resistance and armed struggle against them who oppress, occupy, harass, humiliate and dominate them.
The Kurds have a strong diaspora and strong regional ties. The Syrian Kurds probably will get support from Turkish Kurds, Iraqi Kurds, Iranian Kurds and Kurds from the Kurd Diaspora in the West.
Karl, I understand the Turkish position. Turkey fights a decades old war with the Turkish Kurdish far-left militant and political organization PKK whcih is based in Turkey and Iraq. The Syrian Kurd People's Protection Units or People's Defense Units (YPG), defacto is the "PKK's militia force in Syria”. I have no doubt that the YPG is an arm of the Kurdistan Workers’ Party (PKK). If you look at documentaries, news video's about the YPG you see PKK symbolism, the portraits of Abdullah Öcalan and PKK flags all over their compounds. Even the yellow triangle YPG flag with the Red star looks like PKK symbolism.
The mother party of the YPG is the Democratic Union Party or PYD (Kurdish: Partiya Yekîtiya Demokrat; Arabic: حزب الاتحاد الديمقراطي, romanized: Ḥizb al-Ittiḥad al-Dimuqraṭiy; Classical Syriac: ܓܒܐ ܕܚܘܝܕܐ ܕܝܡܩܪܐܛܝܐ, romanized: Gabo d'Ḥuyodo Demoqraṭoyo) a Kurdish democratic confederalist political party established on 20 September 2003 in northern Syria.RojavaThe Autonomous Administration of North and East Syria (NES), often referred to as Rojava, is a de facto autonomous region in northeastern Syria. It consists of self-governing sub-regions in the areas of Afrin, Jazira, Euphrates, Raqqa, Tabqa, Manbij and Deir Ez-Zor. The region gained its de facto autonomy in 2012 in the context of the ongoing Rojava conflict and the wider Syrian Civil War, in which its official military force, the Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF), has taken part. While entertaining some foreign relations, the region is not officially recognized as autonomous by the government of Syria or any international state or organization. Northeastern Syria is polyethnic and home to sizeable ethnic Kurdish, Arab and Assyrian populations, with smaller communities of ethnic Turkmen, Armenians and Circassians.
The supporters of the region argue that it is an officially secular polity with direct democratic ambitions based on a libertarian socialist ideology promoting decentralization, gender equality, environmental sustainability and pluralistic tolerance for religious, cultural and political diversity, and that these values are mirrored in its constitution, society, and politics, claiming it to be a model for a federalized Syria as a whole, rather than outright independence. Some of the criticism against the region has included opposition to conscription, and claims of authoritarianism, Kurdification, ban on critical journalists, the promotion of a radical anti-capitalist ideology, and influence from the Kurdistan Workers' Party.
Cheers, PieterSource: Wikipedia
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Post by pieter on Oct 11, 2019 3:19:34 GMT -7
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Post by pieter on Oct 11, 2019 3:21:13 GMT -7
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