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Post by pieter on Dec 21, 2019 10:15:50 GMT -7
The Moroccan vs the Dutchman in ArnhemThese fighters are funny when they provoke each other. The stare down is a real Kick box thing. This is also an ethnic thing. Native Dutch Kickbox lovers support Rico and Moroccan Dutch Kickbox lovers support Badr, who fights as a Moroccan Kickboxer for Morocco and himself. Rico fights as a Dutch fighter for the Netherlands.The fight in the Arnhem 'Gelredome' stadiumRico Verhoeven is a mentally and physically strong boxer. Also when you understand that there was a large pro-Badr Hari crowd of Dutch Moroccans, called 'the Badr army'. During the match you heard the mass shouting 'Badr, Badr, Badr...'. Still Rico stood his ground.
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Post by pieter on Dec 21, 2019 10:17:27 GMT -7
Badr HariBadr Hari (Arabic: بدر هاري; born 8 December 1984) is a Moroccan-Dutch super heavyweight kickboxer from Amsterdam, fighting out of Mike's Gym in Oostzaan. He is a former K-1 Heavyweight champion (2007–2008), It's Showtime Heavyweight world champion (2009–2010) and K-1 World Grand Prix 2008 and 2009 finalist. Hari has been a prominent figure in the world of kickboxing; however he has been involved in a number of controversies relating to his "unsportsmanlike conducts" in the sport and crimes of violence outside of the ring.
Hari has been officially praised by the King of Morocco, Mohammed VI, since 2009 for his outstanding accomplishments in the sport. In April 2019, Hari was suspended for 19 months for a positive drug test.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Badr_Hari
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Post by pieter on Dec 21, 2019 10:21:25 GMT -7
Rico VerhoevenRico Verhoeven (born 10 April 1989) is a Dutch kickboxer and current Glory Heavyweight Champion. He has also competed in the K-1, It's Showtime and SUPERKOMBAT promotions. Verhoeven is currently ranked the #1 heavyweight in the world by LiverKick.com, Combat Press and Glory.
Rico Verhoeven was born in Bergen op Zoom, Netherlands. He began learning martial arts at age five starting with Kyokushin, he was trained by his father, a Karate black belt. After transitioning into kickboxing, Verhoeven began training at the age of seven and started competing against adults when he was only 16 years old, due to his large size.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rico_Verhoeven
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Post by pieter on Dec 21, 2019 10:28:37 GMT -7
The last fight between these 2 guys in 2017
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Post by pieter on Dec 21, 2019 11:07:32 GMT -7
Other fight Rico in Rotterdam in 2017
Ohter fight Badr Hari
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Post by pieter on Dec 21, 2019 11:18:16 GMT -7
KickboxingKickboxing is a group of stand-up combat sports based on kicking and punching, historically developed from karate mixed with boxing. Kickboxing is practiced for self-defence, general fitness, or as a contact sport.
Japanese kickboxing originated in the late 1950s, with competitions held since then. American kickboxing originated in the 1970s and was brought to prominence in September 1974, when the Professional Karate Association (PKA) held the first World Championships. Historically, kickboxing can be considered a hybrid martial art formed from the combination of elements of various traditional styles. This approach became increasingly popular since the 1970s, and since the 1990s, kickboxing has contributed to the emergence of mixed martial arts via further hybridization with ground fighting techniques from Brazilian jiu-jitsu and folk wrestling.There is no single international governing body. International governing bodies include International Combat Organisation, World Association of Kickboxing Organizations, World Kickboxing Association, International Sport Karate Association, International Kickboxing Federation, World Kickboxing Network, among others. Consequently, there is no single kickboxing world championship, and champion titles are issued by individual promotions, such as K-1, Glory and Kunlun Fight among others. Bouts organised under different governing bodies apply different rules, such as allowing the use of knees or clinching, etc.As kickboxing continues to grow on a global scale with promotions like GLORY, K-1, Kunlun Fighting Championship and more, fighters are constantly jockeying for position in the eyes (and rankings) of the media.
Every month, Combat Press will rank each weight class from heavyweight to bantamweight, as well as the pound-for-pound rankings for both men and women.
The numbers in parentheses represent the fighter’s ranking from last month. Editor’s Note: This month marks the first time the bantamweight division has been ranked. Some fighters who were previously ranked at featherweight have been moved as a result of the new division.The most famous and best Kick boxers are:- Rico Verhoeven - Badr Hari - Benjamin Adegbuyi - Mladen Brestovac - Andrey Gerasimchuk - Jamal Ben Saddik - Guto Inocente - D’Angelo Marshall - Zabit Samedov - Ismael Londt
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Post by pieter on Dec 21, 2019 11:45:15 GMT -7
In this link you see a list of notable female kickboxers. This list shows kickboxers and professional competitors of other martial arts such as bama-lethwei (burmese boxing), kickboxing, pradal serey (khmer boxing), sanshou (sanda), savate boxing and shoot boxing. In Arnhem I know the Dutch former female kickboxing chapion of Western-Europe, Krista Fleming and I know the Moroccan Kick box school Omar Gym in Arnhem South. I followed the Moroccan Dutch kickboxers for a while. There were also native Dutch, Turkish and Surinamese kickboxers in that school.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_female_kickboxersTraining in Arnhem with Krista FlemingThis is my video of the fighters of Omar Gym at King of the Ring
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Post by pieter on Dec 21, 2019 12:01:06 GMT -7
Polish female fighters
Joanna Jędrzejczyk (Polish: [jɔˈanna jɛndˈʐɛjtʂɨk] (About this soundlisten); born August 18, 1987) is a Polish mixed martial artist and former Muay Thai kickboxer who competes in the women's flyweight and women's strawweight division of the Ultimate Fighting Championship (UFC). She is a former UFC Women's Strawweight Champion. As of October 14, 2019, she is #4 in the UFC women's strawweight rankings.
2 Polish lioneses
Karolina Kowalkiewicz
Karolina Kowalkiewicz (born 15 October 1985) is a Polish mixed martial artist. She currently fights for the Ultimate Fighting Championship (UFC). She is the former KSW Women's Flyweight Champion. As of August 12, 2019, she is #14 in the UFC women's strawweight rankings.
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Post by pieter on Dec 21, 2019 12:05:06 GMT -7
Three Polish male fighters
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Post by pieter on Dec 21, 2019 12:13:04 GMT -7
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Post by pieter on Dec 21, 2019 17:20:45 GMT -7
This was a kick box Gala in the town of Westervoort (next to Arnhem) in 2015 I filmed following the Moroccan-Dutch kickbox school Omar Gym from Southern Arnhem.
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Post by pieter on Dec 21, 2019 17:37:12 GMT -7
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Post by karl on Dec 21, 2019 19:10:57 GMT -7
Pieter
My self may be speaking out of turn, but for as never to attend any of these matches to form a viable truthful opinion. Also to understand this is a sport and one of the martial arts, but, it just seems so brutal to not only pummel the opponent in boxing, but to combine this with such damaging kicks. But then also my self never have attended a boxing match, so as it appears, my opinion is with out such merit of experience. But then the age old saying goes: You do not have to die to know what it is like.
Please do not think my self am so rightist as to not share with others what they may enjoy, for this would not be right.
Karl
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Post by pieter on Dec 22, 2019 9:16:39 GMT -7
Karl,
As always I love your sincere, honest and direct reply. Most Dutch people never attend Kick box gala's or events like Glory coalsision2 like you Karl. I agree with you that this isn't a healthy sport. Many people consider it a doubtful sport and a sport with a criminal image. Like Boxing in the past the legal and illegal world meet each other in the world of kick boxing. You have decent, non-criminal kick boxers and you have criminal kick boxers or criminals who are behind kick boxing. The school I attended and followed wasn't criminal. But at kick box gala you see scary types with scars, tattoo's and gallows faces or hangdog faces.
Kick boxing is a form of mixed martial arts next to other martial arts sports like Karate, Judo, Muay Thai, Boxing, Taekwondo, Jujutsu and Kung Fu. It is very close to the Muay Thai sport. Kick boxing is very brutal and in some elements it comes close to Krav Maga and Mixed martial arts (MMA). Kick boxing is certainly not healthy for your brains, organs, legs, arms and body in general. I have attended a kick boxing match, so in my opinion your opinion is not far beside the truth. One national sports journalist Johan Derksen, called, 'Kick boxing' no sport, because Kick boxing is meant to hurt the other, and sport in his opinion is constructive, healthy and sportsman/sportswoman like.
I am glad that you shared your opinion and that opinion has valuable points.
Cheers, Pieter
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Post by pieter on Dec 22, 2019 9:44:09 GMT -7
This Amsterdam female kickbox fighter (see on 1:10) who is doing Double Dutch (skipping rope/jumping rope) nearly has the physique of a man. That's her trained kick box body. We have some fanatical and professional kick box schools in the Netherlands, because Dutch kickboxers fight in the top leage. These 2 Moroccan Duch fighters push some heavy blows and kicks on each other at 2:13
Karl,
Kickboxing is a sport for the underdog. White native European working class, migrant Moroccans, Migrant Turks, migrant Surinamese and Dutch Antillian people, Moluccans, Kurds, Bosnians, Polish immigrants and others. I don't know why in the world top there are a lot of Dutch fighters. They say there is a special Dutch style of fighting. Dutch guys are direct, impatient, action types, don't want time lost in politeness, indirectness and these traditions, customs and styles of other Europeans. That's why we love to go abroad and enjoy the politeness and indirectness of other European peoples abroad.
The Dutch fellow is a construction worker, a builder, a inventor, a pushy type, a competitive fighter, an entrepreneur, a trader, a producer, not a lot of words, not a lot of ceremomy, but direct to the point. But the Dutchman is also ecclectic, smart, innovative and mixes various martial artist techniques in his fighting. And they are very individualistic. Both Rico and Badr are from the Dutch school of Kickboxing, but completely different fighters in style, technique and mentality. Badr is fast, hot tempered, short term tactical and Rico is cool, strategic, calculating, has a large resilience and will be able to endure long lasting fights if he avoids head kicks and bodily injuries.
Cheers, Pieter
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