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Post by Jaga on Jul 6, 2020 22:32:55 GMT -7
I was actually surprised that there are slightly more men then women in the world, but I shouldn't be since more boys are born than girls and in many developing countries women die of childbirth or are just not taken care the same way boys are. Russia is the most women dominated country, but i wonder how long they would have to wait for their first woman president, maybe longer than the US. Germany have more women than Poland, I was a bit surprised, but Germany has more elderly population. Arab countries, China and India have more men en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_sex_ratio#/media/File:Sex_ratio_total_population_per_country_smooth_2.pngSex ratio by country for total population. Red represents more females, blue more males than the world average of 1.01 males/females. (2012)
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Post by kaima on Jul 7, 2020 8:06:10 GMT -7
I was actually surprised that there are slightly more men then women in the world, but I shouldn't be since more boys are born than girls and in many developing countries women die of childbirth or are just not taken care the same way boys are. Russia is the most women dominated country, but i wonder how long they would have to wait for their first woman president, maybe longer than the US. Germany have more women than Poland, I was a bit surprised, but Germany has more elderly population. Arab countries, China and India have more men en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_sex_ratio#/media/File:Sex_ratio_total_population_per_country_smooth_2.pngSex ratio by country for total population. Red represents more females, blue more males than the world average of 1.01 males/females. (2012) I got into trouble in a liberal office in the 1970's when I happened to walk into a coffee conversation and overheard "women are a minority". My visceral reaction was " That can't be, they are a majority in the US." My statement didn't fit the political correctness of the moment, and the statistics backing me up did not matter, I was condemned as sexist. Women had been officially declared a minority. After I recovered from the shock at the new definition of "minority', I got accustomed to the new concept. Kai
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Post by karl on Jul 7, 2020 10:59:55 GMT -7
Sex ratio by country for total population. Red represents more females, blue more males than the world average of 1.01 males/females. (2012)[/quote] I got into trouble in a liberal office in the 1970's when I happened to walk into a coffee conversation and overheard "women are a minority". My visceral reaction was " That can't be, they are a majority in the US." My statement didn't fit the political correctness of the moment, and the statistics backing me up did not matter, I was condemned as sexist. Women had been officially declared a minority.
After I recovered from the shock at the new definition of "minority', I got accustomed to the new concept.
Kai[/quote]
Dear Kai
Yes, I was laughing over my morning tea for your experience. My self,,I grew up in an all female house and learnt at a very tender age, how and how not to enter an all female talk fest. With this, you were bit where it hurts both ways, but the best of all, you survived to tell the tale and able to walk away with your wounds.
Jaga
My self? I have wondered of this of which sex was the minority and which was not, but to simply accept what was apparent as to place and time.
Karl
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Post by Jaga on Jul 7, 2020 21:34:18 GMT -7
Karl and Kai,
in 10 years there would be more genders than just two.... like we know now. referring to women in the minority - there is definitively less women in the role with power, and we need more of them there; not that I want to have women all around... but I wish it was just more normal to have women engineers and presidents and men as secretaries and nurses. Maybe by then we will respect more the roles of the secretaries?
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Post by kaima on Jul 8, 2020 8:37:05 GMT -7
Karl and Kai, in 10 years there would be more genders than just two.... like we know now. referring to women in the minority ... but I wish it was just more normal to have women engineers and presidents and men as secretaries and nurses. Maybe by then we will respect more the roles of the secretaries? More than two genders ... we don't have to wait ten years, we are surrounded by recognition of them today. What we may expect in ten years, I hope, is a "shake out" of the plethora of terms used today and a refinement of the concept to an easy to speak term for our everyday conversations. We can keep more precise terminology that will be developed for serious discussions. Currently LGBTQ, which by a quick search seems to be "correctly" "L.G.B.T.Q.I.A.+." In my worst of humor, it seems L.G.B.T.Q.E.D. would be better yet. Unfortunately for 'humor', it seems quite accurate, as QED stands for quod erat demonstrandum Q.E.D. or QED (sometimes italicized (British English: italicised)) is an initialism of the Latin phrase "quod erat demonstrandum", literally meaning "what was to be shown". "What was to be shown". Thus it could be taken to include whatever new terms are needed as our sensitivities and awareness grow. To more women engineers, presidents etc. It seems so to be the trend. On a personal level, that was a prime complaint of my sister, yet neither she nor either of her two daughters chose to go into "men's" professions, and thus did not help change the statistics. Looking at the leadership of Europe and the candidates in the USA today, there is hope for the future. Jumping back to my own life observations, I was impressed by the income equality during the Soviet Union, where doctors did not earn tremendously more than workers. But eventually I realized that it seemed most doctors in the Soviet Union were women. Thus it seemed this income equality was a mask for 'women being paid less than men'. No, I never read an analysis of this aspect of the political setup, and am curious what other opinions or observations may be out there. Kai
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Post by karl on Jul 8, 2020 19:56:00 GMT -7
Karl and Kai, in 10 years there would be more genders than just two.... like we know now. referring to women in the minority - there is definitively less women in the role with power, and we need more of them there; not that I want to have women all around... but I wish it was just more normal to have women engineers and presidents and men as secretaries and nurses. Maybe by then we will respect more the roles of the secretaries? Jaga With genders that exceed more then two withen the time frame of 10 years, perhaps you have said a truth. I have said as of the above for a good reason, for in not so long past in Dänmark, there were two ladies once being men that changed their sex. With this, are numbers of those in both Germany and Dänmark that are cursed in their foreseeable life time of having been born as women with also man parts. These individuals must live as they are for most do not have the money to pay for their respective operations to make them in to one or the other. Their respective issues come to light in the manner of gender use of a public toilet facilities, their question-which to use, male or female toilet facilities. Two ladies that underwent sex reassignment surgery : One being Christine Jorganson {American} in 1952 whilst the other was Lili Elbe {Dansk} in 1923. Ms. Elbe was operated in Germany as an experment for at that time, the medical procedure was not very well known. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christine_Jorgensenwww.biography.com/artist/lili-elbewww.bing.com/videos/search?q=lili+elbe&&view=detail&mid=9DA3622D2A760658BD6B9DA3622D2A760658BD6B&rvsmid=A6881637602D8ACD85A3A6881637602D8ACD85A3&FORM=VDRVRVBut, returning to your topic, you have delved in to an area my self am not qualified to say one direction or the other upon. For yours is in the world professional engineering and technical field that is yours. Mine is in the field of information gathering through investigation of facts from the results of detection. Although as a trail may lead with needs of an Engineers opinion then it is done. We do have of course as common knowledge, a Female Chancellor that has been a very top notch advantage to the state she serves of Germany. My self have never had the pleasure to have met her in person, but have enjoyed the fruits of her decisions trickled down withen our department. I must be honest though, and speaking only for my self, I have no reluctance to any administrator, leadership, or any person in a position of authority as long as they know and understand the requirements pertaining to their position. If they are a male or female makes little difference in my mind. Our Chancellor in her time at her post, has been a valuable asset to the people and state she serves. She is a human being, and has made mistakes at times, but she has made up for them and continued to serve. Karl
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