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Post by livia on Feb 6, 2008 16:53:44 GMT -7
Sorry livia I couldnt resist! Are all polish women man-haters or just you. . UnclTim. I think you did not quite undetstand the exchange between Pawian and me. It is not your fault since a lot of blurring was there like irony. Sorry about that. No, I am not man-hater. I can't say for the rest of Polish women.
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Post by Pawian on Feb 6, 2008 17:29:45 GMT -7
Yes that was unjust. Please don't mind it. I am so sorry, I didn`t want to hurt you. Yes, you are a true woman, good-natured, sagacious and reasonable. I do want to find a mutual understanding. It is my whole-hearted desire. But I don`t sell myself cheap - do you mean what I know??? I need really logical facts to feel convinced. I do. If you collected all my posts from this forum, since its very beginning, you would see that actually I cherish very balanced views. I devote the same amount of space and time to both Polish achievements and failures. The problem is that it is done in spurts, as Generation3 said. Spurts means bursts. So, if you are currently in a self flagellation spurt, you will receive a wrong impression. That`s not proper thinking. A person, unless he/she specialises in a subject and spends most of the time on it, a historian possibly, cannot fully render all nuances and provide an impartial report. As amateurs, we are right to take sides in the forum and it is a duty of others to correct out point of view. Together, when two opposing views are confronted, a perfect full side analysis can be made and people reading it will choose for themselves. What about Fascinating History Thread where I run the topic of Poles successfully fighting communism? What about my Aerial Views of Poland? Why do you so easily forget about my patriotic spurts and pay attention only to self-flagelation? Do you really want me to be so sheepishly fascinated with Poland?? I am but I try to hide it not to sound and look like some Polish fool. hahahahahha Oh, come on, it is my mockery again. I love all women and feel immense respect towards them. I always kiss their hands and give flowers etc etc. But I simply can`t resist playing a chauvinist and observing the reactions. It is so amusing hahahahahahahha Sorry, my clownish disposition is stronger than my reason. I have to do it. How did you say it elsewhere? People don't get irritated out of the blue? I said it about Mike. But it is different. Mike was playing dirty with some people here (e.g., Charles) and when he received his dues, he got irritated. Quite unfair of him. Whereas I just presented my opinions which seemed irritating to you, George and Ola. It is your problem, not mine.
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Post by Pawian on Feb 6, 2008 17:33:52 GMT -7
Sorry livia I couldnt resist! Are all polish women man-haters or just you. . UnclTim. I think you did not quite undetstand the exchange between Pawian and me. It is not your fault since a lot of blurring was there like irony. Sorry about that. No, I am not man-hater. I can't say for the rest of Polish women. I corroborate Livia`s statement. She isn`t a man-hater. It was just a specific Polish- Polish dispute. Don`t mind.
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Post by livia on Feb 7, 2008 8:09:12 GMT -7
I am so sorry, I didn`t want to hurt you. Oh, poor you! A helpless little being entangled by historical data ...sweet little creature looking for a way out of the maze he's gone into with his mind.... Bad, bad, bad, insidious, wicked Pawian, that's what you are! ;D ;D ;D But since you still the residual niceness in you ;D ;D ;D let me continue. As a sign of good will to get mutual understanding of the ancient historical problem I am using your characterization of Poland prior to partitions as a model of a society and politiciains in a liberal, internally free policial class country or federation. Look: 1. They sell EU interest to the lobbists. The lobbist represent either companies, but sometimes a foreign ruler hides behind. Corruption lists comprise not only minor politicians but top EU elite too. 2. When corrupted, they prevent the introduction of one reforoms and bills and force the other. 3. They refuse to pay taxes to increase the army and military expenditure. 4. When the war starts and independence is at stake, they don`t want to fight. It was so in Poland & Lithuania Commonweath in the past centuries. And it is so in todays European Union commonweath. (Regarding proportions and modern attitudes etc etc, don't want to hear another abstrować od punktów stuff pleassssse). The only difference is in the past centuries of Polish golden freedom the liberty applied only to some 10% of the society, plus another 15% had a theoretical chance to enter this prviliged group. In EU this same liberty applies to 100 % of citizens. Commonwealth lasted ages. EU lasts 50 years, but I hope it is reformable and will last at least as long. So here it comes, but this is NOT NOT NOT NOT to say that Poles are not to blame, it is solely to extend this nice conversation of ours ;D ;D ;D
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Post by george on Feb 9, 2008 14:15:43 GMT -7
Oh God!! See what iv'e been saying folks? You have been dealing with a 100% certifiable nutcase. Sure i had known some of these type of teachers in my life also. They were bores then and i guess things haven't changed much. I would love to know some of the opinion of some of his students. Present and past. But oh hell. Who wouldn't want to have a teacher that new ALL the answers of history.
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Post by Pawian on Feb 9, 2008 14:22:23 GMT -7
Oh God!! See what iv'e been saying folks? You have been dealing with a 100% certifiable nutcase. Sure i had known some of these type of teachers in my life also. They were bores then and i guess things haven't changed much. I would love to know some of the opinion of some of his students. Present and past. But oh hell. Who wouldn't want to have a teacher that new ALL the answers of history. George, if you drop by to post only such stupidities, without any real contribution, why don`t you find another forum where they would happily accept such pathetic guys like you? It would be a real disaster to have you as a student.... If you remember your former teachers as bores, I can imagine what they thought of you.... Poor them! hahahahaahha Surely they had little esteem for you, just like I do for people of your kind: no brains, no logic, no work, no intellectual input - nothing, only sheer readiness to seek and destroy. If at least you were humorous, it could help a lot, but you aren`t. Fortunately, my students are more intelligent than you. As for them, don`t worry. Look at them now: Do they look unhappy? hahahahahaha
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