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Post by pieter on Sept 2, 2022 18:23:29 GMT -7
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Post by pieter on Sept 2, 2022 18:29:15 GMT -7
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Post by pieter on Sept 3, 2022 3:56:06 GMT -7
I heard this song in A New Wave night club in Krakow with Polish Goth girls in April 2004. When I see images or a video of Krakow I hear this New Order song in my head, because the Poles of that club played this song next to The Cure, Siouxise and the Banshees and other New Wave and Indie rock ( en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indie_rock ) music.
They had images of old Peoples Republic era cars on their walls, Polski Fiat, Polonez, Warszawa car and etc. It was a mix of East and West in Center Europe. Loved the Place, we were with a group of Dutch, German and Polish people there. The majority of course were local Krakow folks, university students, working young Crakovians, rockers, new wave kids, Polish Punks and Goths.
We had a great night with dancing, beers, Polish Vodka's and Whiskey. Very nice atmosphere, reminded me a little bit of the eighties New Wave bands era. So also melancholic and nostalgic in a way. The communist era images and the old eighties New Wave music.
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Post by pieter on Sept 3, 2022 4:12:18 GMT -7
New Order is in my musical life for decades, starting from my teenage years. First there was the band Warsaw, the follow up of Warsaw was Joy Division, and after the death of lead singer Ian Kevin Curtis (15 July 1956 – 18 May 1980) the Band continued as New Order, with new New Order songs and also old Joy Division songs played in a New Order fashion. During my student years in Amsterdam, the Hague and Arnhem Joy Division and New Order continued to play a role. I had a heavy British musical taste, more than American, but also mixed with American music. I prefered British and American music over continental European music, but of course liked a few Continental European bands.
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Post by pieter on Sept 3, 2022 4:19:34 GMT -7
New Order playing in their old Joy Division style
The original
New Order live - Ceremony
The roots of New Order
Joy Division was a British English post-punk band from 1976 to 1980, Joy Division were an English rock band formed in Salford in 1976. The group consisted of vocalist Ian Curtis, guitarist/keyboardist Bernard Sumner, bassist Peter Hook and drummer Stephen Morris.
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On 4 June 1976, childhood friends Bernard Sumner and Peter Hook separately attended a Sex Pistols show at the Manchester Lesser Free Trade Hall. Both were inspired by the Pistols' performance. Sumner said that he felt the Pistols "destroyed the myth of being a pop star, of a musician being some kind of god that you had to worship". The following day Hook borrowed £35 from his mother to buy a bass guitar. They formed a band with Terry Mason, who had also attended the gig; Sumner bought a guitar, and Mason a drum kit. After their schoolfriend Martin Gresty declined an invitation to join as vocalist after getting a job at a factory, the band placed an advertisement for a vocalist in the Manchester Virgin Records shop. Ian Curtis, who knew them from earlier gigs, responded and was hired without audition. Sumner said that he "knew he was all right to get on with and that's what we based the whole group on. If we liked someone, they were in."
Buzzcocks manager Richard Boon and frontman Pete Shelley have both been credited with suggesting the band name "Stiff Kittens", but the band settled on "Warsaw" shortly before their first gig, a reference to David Bowie's song "Warszawa". Warsaw debuted on 29 May 1977 at the Electric Circus, supporting the Buzzcocks, Penetration and John Cooper Clarke. Tony Tabac played drums that night after joining the band two days earlier. Reviews in the NME by Paul Morley and in Sounds by Ian Wood brought them immediate national exposure. Mason became the band's manager and Tabac was replaced on drums in June 1977 by Steve Brotherdale, who also played in the punk band the Panik. Brotherdale tried to get Curtis to leave the band and join the Panik, and even had Curtis audition. On 18 July 1977, Warsaw recorded five demo tracks at Pennine Sound Studios, Oldham. Uneasy with Brotherdale's aggressive personality, the band fired him soon after the sessions. Driving home from the studio, they pulled over and asked Brotherdale to check on a flat tyre; when he got out of the car, they drove off.
In August 1977, Warsaw placed an advertisement in a music shop window seeking a replacement drummer. Stephen Morris, who had attended the same school as Curtis, was the sole respondent. Deborah Curtis, Ian's wife, stated that Morris "fitted perfectly" with the band, and that with his addition Warsaw became a "complete 'family'". To avoid confusion with the London punk band Warsaw Pakt, the band renamed themselves Joy Division in early 1978, borrowing the name from the sexual slavery wing of a Nazi concentration camp mentioned in the 1955 novel House of Dolls. On 14 December, the group recorded their debut EP, An Ideal for Living, at Pennine Sound Studio and played their final gig as Warsaw on New Year's Eve at the Swinging Apple in Liverpool. Billed as Warsaw to ensure an audience, the band played their first gig as Joy Division on 25 January 1978 at Pip's Disco in Manchester.
To avoid confusion with the London punk band Warsaw Pakt, the band renamed themselves Joy Division in early 1978, borrowing the name from the sexual slavery wing of a Nazi concentration camp mentioned in the 1955 novel House of Dolls. One of their early songs, "No Love Lost", contains a short excerpt from the novella. "Joy Divisions", which were groups of Jewish women in the concentration camps during World War II who were kept for the sexual pleasure of Nazi soldiers. When the women died they were replaced by women from the concentration camp Ravensbrück.
Sumner and Hook formed the band after attending a Sex Pistols concert. While Joy Division's first recordings were heavily influenced by early punk, they soon developed a sparse sound and style that made them one of the pioneers of the post-punk movement. Their self-released 1978 debut EP An Ideal for Living drew the attention of the Manchester television personality Tony Wilson, who signed them to his independent label Factory Records. Their debut album Unknown Pleasures, recorded with producer Martin Hannett, was released in 1979.
Curtis struggled with personal problems including a failing marriage, depression, and epilepsy. As the band's popularity grew, Curtis's health condition made it increasingly difficult for him to perform; he occasionally experienced seizures on stage. He died by suicide on the eve of what would have been the band's first North American tour in May 1980, aged 23. Joy Division's second and final album, Closer, was released two months later; it and the single "Love Will Tear Us Apart" became their highest-charting releases.
Between July and October 1980 the remaining members regrouped under the name New Order. They were successful throughout the next decade, blending post-punk with electronic and dance music influences.
New Order
New Order are an English rock band formed in 1980 by vocalist and guitarist Bernard Sumner, bassist Peter Hook and drummer Stephen Morris. The members regrouped after the demise of their previous band Joy Division due to the suicide of lead singer Ian Curtis. They were joined by Gillian Gilbert on keyboards later that year. New Order's integration of post-punk with electronic and dance music made them one of the most acclaimed and influential bands of the 1980s. They were the flagship band for Manchester-based independent record label Factory Records and its nightclub The Haçienda, and they worked in long-term collaboration with graphic designer Peter Saville.
While the band's early years were overshadowed by the legacy of Joy Division, their experience of the early 1980s New York club scene saw them increasingly incorporate dance rhythms and electronic instrumentation into their work. Their 1983 hit "Blue Monday" became the best-selling 12-inch single of all time and a popular club track.[3] In the 1980s, they released successful albums such as Power, Corruption & Lies (1983), Technique (1989), and the singles compilation Substance (1987). They disbanded in 1993 to work on individual projects before reuniting in 1998. In the years since, New Order has gone through various hiatuses and personnel changes, most prominently the departure of Hook in 2007 due to personal disputes with the other members. They released their tenth studio album, Music Complete, in 2015.
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Post by pieter on Sept 3, 2022 5:53:41 GMT -7
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Post by pieter on Sept 3, 2022 5:54:35 GMT -7
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Post by pieter on Sept 3, 2022 5:56:55 GMT -7
The iconic bassist talks about how New Order sprang from the ashes of Joy Division and carried on.
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Post by pieter on Sept 3, 2022 5:58:57 GMT -7
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Post by pieter on Sept 3, 2022 6:06:19 GMT -7
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Post by pieter on Sept 3, 2022 6:13:04 GMT -7
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Post by pieter on Sept 3, 2022 6:34:51 GMT -7
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Post by pieter on Sept 3, 2022 6:42:58 GMT -7
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Post by pieter on Sept 3, 2022 6:48:21 GMT -7
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Post by pieter on Sept 3, 2022 6:54:02 GMT -7
Typical early eighties (1981), New Wave, New Order, Manchaster British English sound. The base, the drums, the guitars, synthesizer and the song.
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