Social Liberal leader Sigrid Kaag lashes out at politics

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Progressive Social Liberal leader Sigrid Kaag lashes out at Dutch politics. Outgoing Deputy Prime Minister Sigrid Kaag has announced that he will not stand for election in the next elections. She explains her decision during a press conference.

Sigrid Kaag's words in the video above;

"I do this for my family and with my family. Which it does say if you zoom it out a bit...because it's not about me. That we are in a very precarious social situation, where, uh..., politics magnifies the differences in a way that it is... uh... uh... character assassination instead of content. That political choices are no longer fought along the lines of facts, and that you still need solid, good, experienced administrators, young and old, ... to make a difference, because the Netherlands is a beautiful country. We have a big task, and there is still a lot to do. It also always remains the task that we must feel with each other. Whether you are currently in politics or not, there are many ways to contribute."

[pieter]

Folks,

I really am worried about Dutch politics and the direction the Netherlands will go in the near future, because today 3 main political parties in the center of Dutch politics, political parties that were part of coalition governments for decades, are without a political leader today, the centrist liberal D66 of Sigrid Kaag, the late Els Borst, Hans van Mierlo, Jan Terlouw, Kajsa Ollongren, Rob Jetten and Sabine Andeweg, the Conservative (Conservative liberal) VVD of Mark Rutte and Dilan Yeşilgöz-Zegerius and the Christian Democratic CDA of Wopke Hoekstra, Karen van Gennip, Hanke Bruins Slot, Hugo de Jonge, Vivianne Heijnen and Marnix van Rij. A lot of names you will say, but only a very few can be the leader and want to be the leader. There is not an easy and fast replacement for Sigrid Kaag in D66, Mark Rutte in the VVD and Wopke Hokestra in the CDA. If you see that the Labour Party is weak and had to align itself with the GreenLeft party you see that the moderate Centrist (Center Left and Center Right) is in a crisis today. Both National Rightwing Populist Parties (PVV, Forum for Democracy and JA21) could gain from this weakness and political implosion in the Center, and the Populists from the Left (Socialist Party [SP], Denk [Think; migrant Populist party, and the far left Bij1) could gain from this. And the Farmer Citizens Movement (BBB) of Caroline van der Plas, a Farmer Populist Party could gain a monster victory in November. If the BBB manages to form a stabile rightwing coalition with for instance the VVD, CDA and JA21 (the most moderate of the Rightwing Populists), that would be okay.

But when we would get a monster coalition of BBB, PVV, Forum for Democracy, JA21 and for instance the Fundamentalist Calvinist Protestant SGP that would be a very bad development. In the latter the Netherlands would look like present day Israel, Turkey and Hungary. And that would be very unfortunate. On the other hand a sharp turn to the left in case of a D66, GreenLeft/Labour (PvdA), Socialist Party (SP), Party for the Animals and for instance Volt Netherlands (a Federal European party) coalition government with the the Social Christian ChristenUnie in it as partner, that would be too Social, too Leftist, to much government and bad for the Dutch economy and our global position. In the case of such a leftist government with high taxes, high spending and a larger state, a lot of International Multinationals and Dutch firms and companies would leave the Netherlands and go to London, the USA, or other countries with lower taxes and a more business friendly climate. By the way, some multi nationals and companies (with international expats of other ethnicities and races) would leave the Nertherlands as well when a Far Right coalition would govern the Netherlands, because for instance Geert Wilders Freedom Party (PVV) is very rightwing, conservative and Eursceptic on immigration, Islam, enviromnmental issues and Europe, but very leftist in social and economical affairs. Geert Wilders PVV comes close to the leftist Socialist Party and GreenLeft on social economical and Financial issues, and prefers a big state as well.

My preference would be that the Centrist political parties would regain their strength, be more modest, keep their elites in check and become less arrogant, haughty and elitist (Glass ceiling, golden cage, backroom politics), reform and transform themselves, and get a better connection with their electorate, party members and base, and think about the future of the Netherlands, the Dutch economy, Financial affairs and Financial state, the housing market (more houses must be build en build fast), health care, education (more better and efficient education, more Research & Development, more Human Capital), agriculture, more investments in our Defence, more investments in our security and safety and thus in our police force (we need more police officers), and in our infrastructure and National Parks and Wilde life. The centrist parties who oppose the Referendum as a democratic tool, should reconsider their opposition against the Referendum. A Democracy is about the will of the people, the will of the majority, inclusive the protection and taking care of the rights of the minority vote. We need to find the democratic balance again, the balance we had in the fifties, sixties, seventies, eighties and nineties, despite the oil crisis, the world wide recession in the late seventies and early eighties, terrorism on Dutch soil, the large Radical Left Autonomen Anarchist squater movement ( en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autonomism / en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_bloc ), large Union and student/pupil protests, and difficult coalitions with political parties with very different ideoligies, ideals and aims. Like in Germany you had some sort of conflict between the moderate, parlaimentarian, Democratic Socialist Social Democratic Labour Party in the government (coalition) and the far left Anarchists on the streets and squated houses in large cities, and the far left Communist and Pacifist Socialist opposition in parliament whom attacked Labour from the Left. Labour Mayors of large cities were often in conflict with these Far Left Anarchist Autonomen squaters in their cities. This confrontation between the Moderate Center Left (Social Democrats) on one side and the extreme left/far left Marxist-Leninsts and radical left Socialists is more than a Century old. Starting in Germany with the Spartacus Uprising on 5–12 January 1919, and the **KPD vs *SPD confrontations in the Weimarer Republik, the Post war 'confrontation' between on one side West-German administrations lead by the SPD and on the other side East Germany (DDR/GDR, the German Democratic Republic) lead by the SED of Erich Honecker. Today you stil see that left divide in Germany between the SPD and Die Linke, in the Netherlands between the Labour Party (PvdA) and the Socialistische Partij (Socialist Party, SP) and in Denmark between Socialdemokratiet on one side and Enhedslisten – De Rød-Grønne on the other side. On the rightwing side the center right Christian Democrats and rightwing Liberals (Conservative Liberals; FDP, VVD and Venstre) stand opposite to our National Rigthwing Populist political parties (Alternative für Deutschland, PVV/Fprum for Democracy, Danmarksdemokraterne/Dansk Folkeparti/Rassemblement National of Marine Le Pen in France and Brothers of Italy of the Italian Prime Minister Giorgia Meloni) which have a National Conservative and Nationalist agenda. It is clear that in this present political climate and political spectrum it is an extremely difficult task for informateurs and formateurs to create New Coalition adminstrations after long negotiations.

The political parties of the Center Left and the Center Right managed to form Grand Coalitions (Große Koalitionen of 2,3 or 4 political parties) and small coalitions (of 2 Parties) and to govern the Netherlands for better and for worse.

My prefered coalition government would be a centrist one of Center left and center right political parties with a long experience in coalition governments. My prefered Coalition administratioin is the following from left to right; 1) GreenLeft/Labour Party, 2) D66, 3) VVD, 4) CDA and 5) if needed the Moderate Rightwing Liberal and National conservative JA21 (I know that JA21 would prefer a center right government of VVD, CDA and JA21). Anyhow there are a lot of domestic and international challenges and problems which need to be solved by a strong Dutch administration.

One of the main issues is the shortage of owner-occupied houses on the housing market, as a result of which young people cannot start their lives and continue to live with their parents. This a huge problem in the densly populated Netherlands. This can't continue this way.

Pieter



** * - In the Weimarer Republic 1918–1933 the pro-democracy paramilitary organization of the Social Democrats Reichsbanner Schwarz-Rot-Gold confronted the far left communist paramilitary organization Rotfrontkämpferbund of the Communist Party of Germany (German: Kommunistische Partei Deutschlands, KPD).

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The answer comes quick after my previous post in the thread "Justice minister takes leadership of largest Dutch party". Sigrid Kaag will step down as D66 leader and will not be the new Prime Minister after the elections of November 2023.





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today, 00:17
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Kaag leaves as D66 leader: 'My work puts a strain on my family'



D66 leader Sigrid Kaag will not be the party leader in the next elections and will leave politics. She says this in an interview in Trouw. "My work takes a toll on my family," she says to the newspaper. Kaag will continue to serve as outgoing Minister of Finance.

Her departure is not unexpected. In May of this year, Kaag's daughters called on their mother to do something else, outside of Dutch politics, in the TV program College Tour. Kaag is heavily protected due to threats. Last year there was a man with a burning torch in front of her private address.

"Looking back... in 2017 I came to the Netherlands because I really thought: I can mean something here and try to do the right thing. But it asked too much of them," says the deputy prime minister now. "I don't think I should ask this again from my family."



"I also came to the Netherlands to give my children a basis. But they have received such a distorted and image of their own country. I do not wish that on them. I would like to see things calm down again for them. they can have their own experiences that are independent of what your mother or your father does or what people think of them."

Kaag emphasizes that her departure from politics is her own decision and that she could just stay on if it was up to the party board. "They fully supported me if I wanted to continue and have only encouraged it." She does not yet know what Kaag will do now.



Three coalition parties without a leader



At D66 there will soon be party leader elections. The candidates can report next week, the newspaper writes. Minister Rob Jetten of Climate, Minister Ollongren of Defense and party chairman Paternotte, among others, are in the picture as successor to Kaag.


Climate Minister Rob Jetten and Minister of Defence Kajsa Ollongren are possible candidates to succeed Sigrid Kaag as party leader of D66

Before Kaag held her current ministerial post at Finance, she was Minister of Foreign Affairs and before that Minister for Foreign Trade and Development Cooperation. She became active in Dutch politics in 2017. Before that, she held positions abroad as a diplomat for many years. She was the United Nations Special Envoy to Lebanon and Syria. Her daughters also grew up abroad.

Now that Kaag has announced her departure, three of the four coalition parties are without a leader within a week. On Monday, VVD leader Rutte announced that he would leave politics after thirteen years as prime minister. That same day, CDA leader Hoekstra announced that he was not available as party leader. Whether he will return to politics is still unclear. The new elections will not be held until mid-November at the earliest.

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today, 10:17


Abhorrence in The Hague about the reason for Kaag's departure from politics

Various politicians react with understanding to the announced departure of D66 leader Sigrid Kaag from politics, but they also express their disgust at the reason. Kaag has indicated that the work places too great a strain on her and her family, partly due to the many threats to her address.

"Privately she had to pay an unacceptably high price," writes outgoing Prime Minister Mark Rutte on Twitter. "I admire her courage and thank her for our good cooperation in recent years and for her unbridled commitment to our country." Kaag will remain caretaker Minister of Finance and Deputy Prime Minister for the time being.

The anger is particularly great within her own party D66. According to MP Jeanet van der Laan, there is misogyny:

Tweet D66 Female Parliament member Jeanet van der Laan;

Our political leader who cannot/will not continue because of hatred, aggression and threats.

Are we finally awake? This is misogyny to silence a politician.

Get up and don't be silent.

This is also about your partner, daughter, girlfriend, colleague…

PVV leader Geert Wilders, who regularly called Kaag a witch, has not yet responded directly to her departure. He does write on Twitter that it is not at all necessary to leave if you are threatened. "I've been living in a safe house for almost 20 years, can't walk alone on the street and yet I always keep going."

CDA leader Wopke Hoekstra, who will not be party leader herself again, calls Kaag's story about the impact on her family "unfortunately recognizable, although the threats were few as extreme as with you. And that is much more than your problem. It's the problem for all of us."

Torch



Kaag has been the target of insults and threats on social media for years. She is under strict security, also because someone was standing in front of her house with a flaming torch last year. The man was sentenced on appeal to five months in prison and a restraining order, but lately he has been regularly seen again in The Hague, including in the building of the House of Representatives.

Many politicians have recently expressed their concern about the increasing coarsening of the debate and the threats. That would deter potential MPs and administrators from making themselves available. "Who wants to be in politics?"

Caroline van der Plas of BBB also asked that question earlier. She can therefore well imagine Kaag's decision:

Caroline van der Plas;

Fundamentally politically disagree with @sigridkaag
on almost everything, but I also got to know another side of her as a person. I wish her the best of luck in her future life and career. And can very well imagine her decision to choose for her family. #FamilyFirst

Kaag says in a response that her family is happy that she is retiring. "My husband is happy, he is relieved".

[pieter]

The Progressive Social Liberal D66 politician Els Borst was murdered on Saturday February the 8th 2014 by a mentally unstable man in the garage at her home in Bilthoven, a village with a lot of Villa's in the Dutch province of Utrecht. The 2 daughters of D66 leader and Minister of Financial Affairs feared that their mother might be killed just like Els Borst and wanted her to stop with politics.

Former Minister of Welfare and Sport, and Minister of State (an honorary title in the Netherlands) Els Borst (22 March 1932 – 8 February 2014) was murdered by a mentally unstable man in her home. Borst was a Former politician of the Democrats 66 (D66), former Leader of the Democrats 66 in the House of Representatives.

Borst worked as a medical researcher at the Academic Medical Center from 1958 until 1962 and as a physician from 1962 until 1976. Borst also worked as director of the blood bank at the University Medical Center Utrecht from 1969 until 1976. She served as the University Medical Center Utrecht hospital administrator from 1976 until 1985. Borst was selected as Vice Chairwoman of the Health Council, serving from 1 January 1986 until 22 August 1994. Borst also served as a professor of medical ethics at the University of Amsterdam from 1 July 1992 until 22 August 1994. After the election of 1994 Borst was appointed as Minister of Health, Welfare and Sport in the Cabinet Kok I, taking office on 3 August 1998. After the Leader of the Democrats 66 Hans van Mierlo announced he was stepping down five months before the election of 1998, he endorsed Borst as his successor. After Van Mierlo stood down on 15 February 1998, Borst was chosen to succeed him and became the Leader of the Democrats 66 and the Lijsttrekker (top candidate) of the Democrats 66 for the election of 1998.

Death

Borst was found dead on the evening of 10 February 2014 in the garage at her home in Bilthoven by two close friends. The eighty-one-year-old former politician was reported to be in good health after recovering from breast cancer a few years before. Dutch police concluded that Borst died on 8 February, just hours after attending a party congress of the Democrats 66 in Amsterdam, where she was reported to be visibly active and upbeat and left the party congress on her own and walked to the Amsterdam Centraal railway station nearby.

On 1 September 2015 the Public Prosecution Service released a statement that Borst died from forty-one stab wounds to her head, neck and hands. On 26 January 2015 police announced that a man with a criminal record had been arrested based on a DNA match; this man was arrested two weeks earlier on suspicion of involvement in the murder of his sister. Early in 2016 he confessed to the murder of his sister (almost a year after the murder of Borst). He said he killed his sister because they had different opinions on abortion and euthanasia. In February 2016 he confessed to having killed Borst because divine inspiration told him to do so, holding her responsible for the Dutch policy on euthanasia. Later he stated he had no intention to kill Mrs Borst, but wanted to ask her the address of former prime minister Wim Kok. When she refused to give the address, he remembered Borst had been responsible for the policy on euthanasia. On 13 April 2016 Van U. was convicted of the two murders and sentenced to TBS (Involuntary commitment) on the grounds of a diagnosis of chronic paranoid psychosis in the context of schizophrenia.

On 16 March 2017 the Court of Appeal of The Hague declared Van U. only partially unaccountable for the murders and sentenced him to eight years in prison and TBS.


Els Borst a few hours before her violent death at the D66 party congress in Amsterdam

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Sigrid Kaag om Better times. Tribute to Kaag from her own political party D66



Sigrid Thanks!

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BUX and High Tech Tea interviewed Dutch Minister of Finance Sigrid Kaag as part of our event entitled "Bridging the Female Financial Literacy Gap Through Technology" on March 24, 2022. The Minister noted that financial literacy is a top priority on her political agenda in the Netherlands and spoke of her personal relationship with money.

Investing involves risks. You can lose your deposit.

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We seek also the upholding of international law and international humanitarian law, that is definitely the EU position, says Sigrid Kaag, the Netherlands' minister for foreign trade and development cooperation.

[Jaga]

Pieter, we also worried about Dutch politics. Ela got an email from her friend in Texas that Dutch government is dissolving and she worried that this may affect us. It did not, but nevetherless, as you said, we want to avoid a lack of stability of a formation of the right wing or nationalistic-extreme type of government like it was in Nazi Germany.

[pieter]

Jaga,

Stil a demissionairy cabinet is governing the country and will do so until a new government is installed. So this demissionary cabinet including demissionary Prime Minister Mark Rutte and demissionary Minister of Finance Sigrid Kaag will continue as long as they are needed as caretaker cabinet. I think the fall of this cabinet and the announcement of prime minister Mark Rutte that he will leave politics after leading the country as prime minister for 13 years will be a wake up call for Democrats, Liberals, Conservatives, Christian Democrats, Social Democrats and other moderate and reasonable politicians and political leaders.

I think there should be a debate about our political system in which there are to much small fractions, political movements and political parties. In my perspective the US democracy is to limited with only 2 political parties. More healthy would be 3, 4 or 5 political parties. Like you Jaga I want to avoid a lack of stability of a formation of the right wing or nationalistic-extreme type of government like it was in Nazi Germany. But from the other side I also want to avoid another kind of extreme, and that is the direction of an extreme left/far left, leftwing Socialist, Neo-Marxists, Communist like government with extreme environmentalists, a dominant leftwing wing of the Social Democracy, our GreenLeft Party (with former Communists, Pacifist Socialist and Political Party Radicals [PPR] people in it) and the Leftwing Populist Socialist Party (with Maoist communist roots).

What I dislike is the present primitivism, rage, anger, fury, hatred, bluntness, aggression, violence and unlimited attacks, vulgarity, disrespect, threats and death threats that comes out of the gutter of the trailer trash/white trash unemployed Underclass, the skilled working class, a section of the Middle class, blunt farmer populists, and some luntatic, drop out, conspiracy theory, far right upper middle class and upper class people that deliberately in an unresponsible way spread lies, attack people and with their knowledge misinform the public with their Fake news. This weird coalition of 'strange people' is dangerous not only in the Netherlands, but also in the rest of Europe, Australia, the USA, Canada, the White part of South-Africa, and other non-Western countries. I also deeply dislike and reject the present cancel culture. I hate that cancel culture.

Ultra nationalism, Neo-Fascism, Pan Germanism, Pan Slavinsm, Turnanism, Pan Asianism, Pan Arabism, Neo Nazism, Ethno nationalism and rejection, hatred and antipathy for non-Western strangers of colour and Muslim heritage are quite open today in the Netherlands and other European nations. And with racism, discrimination, xenophobia, Islamophobia and rejection of everything which is non-European and non-Western by Native European people unfortunately always antisemitism comes around the corner. I am worried about antisemitism in various European countries, next to that I am worried about the fierce xenophobia, racism and Islamophobia that is persent around here.

Although I am critical about migration policies and want more restriction and restraint with taking in refugees, and more refugees sent to refugee camps in the regions where they come from, I don't like this blunt racism, xenophobia, antisemitism and islamophobia that already exist. What is happening in France could easily also happen in the United Kingdom, Belgium (Brussels, Antwerp, Liège [Luttig/Luik]), Sweden (Malmö, Stockholm, Gothenburg, Uppsala, Örebro, Linköping, Helsingborg, Lund, Umeå, Norrköping, Västerås, Jönköping, Östersund and many other Swedish cities and towns), Norway (Oslo, Bergen, Trondheim, Stavanger and Kristiansand), Finland (Helsinki, Turku, Espoo, Oulu, Tampere and Kuopio), the Netherlands (Amsterdam, The Hague, Rotterdam, Utrecht, Almere, Groningen, Eindhoven, Arnhem, Nijmegen, Tilburg, Maastricht and etc.), Denmark (Copenhagen, Aarhus, Odense, Aalborg, Roskilde), Austria (Vienna, Salzburg, Innsbruck, Graz, Linz, and Klagenfurt am Wörthersee), Switzerland (Zürich, Bern, Geneva, Basel, Lausanne, and Winterthur).

From the Far right side next to the old Neo-Nazi's, Neo-Fascists, Neo-Falange (supporters of Franco Spain), reactionary Ultra-Conservative absolutist Monarchists (Konfederacja Korony Polskiej, KKP), and in many other European forms), the Reichsbürger movement, the Identitarian movement (Identitarianism), you have the new xenophobic, racist, discriminatory, Far right National Rightwing Populists with no roots in Neo-Nazism, Neo-Fascism or Spanish Neo-Falangism ( Vox en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vox_(political_party) ). These people often split off from the large Center Right conservative liberal and Christian Democratic Parties, in which they were part of the far right wings in these parties, which still exist by the way. Geert Wilders came from the center right Conservative/conservative liberal VVD party from Mark Rutte and Dilan Yeşilgöz-Zegerius, and many German members and politicians of the Alternative für Deutschland came from the German Christian Democratic CDU/CSU.

What is dangerous is that these National Rightwing Populists (former Christian Democrats and Classical European Liberals/Conservative liberals) brought skills, political management, grassroots movement building skills, political training skills, and long political experience with them into a new extreme right movement in which the far right wings of the Christian Democrats and rightwing liberals did merge with German Neo-Nazi's from the East-German Neo-Nazi party NPD (Nationaldemokratische Partei Deutschlands; the National Democratic Party of Germany) and these so called democratic 'National Rightwing Populist ex-CDU/CSU men and women' transformed these former Neo-Nazi's from Neo-Nazi's in modern Neo-Nazi uniforms, Nazi-Skin guys [Lonsdale T'shirts, Green Bomber Jacks, Waffen SS camouflage trausers and army boots] and Hooligans into decent looking men in suits, decent haircuts, and more moderate Rightwing Populist language and communication. The merger of these 2 groups is extremely dangerous for Germany and the surrounding countries. Geert Wilders and Thierry Baudet attract former Social Democratic voting workers from what we call 'Red working class families' (Red stands in Europe for Socialism), disappointed middle class people, angry young people, Far right Neo-Nazi's and some angry farmers that didn't vote for the Farmer Populist BBB. The Farmer Populist BBB by the way is far more moderate than Geert Wilders PVV and Thierry Baudet's Forum for Democracy. The BBB is based on the rigthwing wing of the Chrisitan Democratic CDA party, CDA people who didn't approve of the 'anti-farmer' Nitrogen policies of their CDA government party.


Logo of the former German Neo Nazi party, Freiheitliche Deutsche Arbeiterpartei of Michael Kühnen (1979–1989) and Friedhelm Busse (1989–1995)


The Old German Neo-Nazi's in the nineties in their Neo-Nazi uniforms that looked like original Nazi SA (Brown shirt stormtroopers) uniforms


German Neo-Nazi skinheads


German Neo-Nazi skinheads and Far right Hooligans during Anti-Islamist Riots in Germany: Hooligans Against Salafists, 8 years ago



"Michael Kühnen war mein gewählter Führer"/ Michael Kühnen was the leader I would vote for


Christian Worch



Christian Worch (born 14 March 1956) in this video is a prominent German neo-Nazi activist and chairman of the far-right political party Die Rechte. Worch collaborates with Gary Lauck's NSDAP/AO (1972), and is known as one of the main organizers of the Rudolf Hess Memorial March, which takes place once a year in Wunsiedel, Bavaria, where the remains of Rudolf Hess were formerly buried, and is one of the most important events for European neo-Nazis. Gerhard Rex Lauck (born 1953) is an American neo-Nazi activist and publisher. Based in Lincoln, Nebraska, he is sometimes nicknamed the "Farm Belt Fuehrer" due to his rural origins.


Michael Kühnen (21 June, 1955 – 25 April, 1991) was a leader in the German neo-Nazi movement. He was one of the first post-World War II Germans to openly embrace Nazism and call for the formation of a Fourth Reich. He enacted a policy of setting up several differently named groups in an effort to confuse German authorities, who were attempting to shut down neo-Nazi groups. Kühnen's homosexuality was made public in 1986, and he died of HIV-related complications in 1991.


In this political ad you see how close the National Rightwing Populist and National Conservative Alternative für Deutschland is related to the far right Neo-Nazi and ultranationalist The Homeland (German: Die Heimat) party, commonly known by its official name until 2023, the National Democratic Party of Germany (German: Nationaldemokratische Partei Deutschlands, NPD).




An ad in which if you look carefully you see the typical Aryan, Nordic, Germanic mythology of healthy blond, blue eyed children in typical German Germanic dresses


"Rich diversity?", we have it already.


"Wir werden Sie jagen", "we will hunt them down" in German, is a scary statement if you remember that the Nazi's in the period of 1933-1945 hunted down German conservative, liberal, Social Democratic, Roman Cathlic (Christian Democratic) opponents in Nazi Germany, and if you know that many of them died in Gestapo prisons and Nazi concentration camps


Andreas Kalbitz (born 17 November 1972) is a German politician and was from 2013 to 2020 member of the Alternative for Germany (AfD) and since 2017 chairman of the faction of his former party in the Landtag of Brandenburg, a state parliament. Kalbitz was born 1972 in Munich and became a paratrooper in the Bundeswehr, the German federal army from 1994 until 2005. His claims that in 2008 he had studied informatics (computer science) proved false in 2017. Kalbitz was member of various extremist right-wing organisations before he entered the newly founded AfD in 2013.

Jaga, I hope that we can avoid a lack of stability and a formation of the right wing or nationalistic-extreme type of government like it was in Nazi Germany. The atmosphere in Europe, the Netherlands and the world is strange today and not good. There is a lot of rage and anger in the native European populations of the European countries, and amongst the minorities, non-Western migrants, Muslims, colored and black people. The latter feel that a lot of the rage and anger of the native white European populations is directed against them. As a counter reaction the tension, fear, anxiety, irritation, frustration, rage and anger amongst the non-Western Muslim (Middle Eastern, North African and African) migrants is growing too.

I want to make a clear statement that Ultra-nationalism, Fascism, National Rightwing Populism does not only exists amongst native Europeans, white Christians in Europe and white European secular autheists and agnostic people. You have extreme right, Great Ottoman, racist, Neo-Fascist Turks over here as well. These Turks feel superior above Kurds, Greeks, Armenians, Bulgarians, Arabs, Berbers, Africans, Jews, White Native Europeans and other non-European peoples and call themselves 'Super Turks', in a Nazist way you could see that as 'Übermensch' (transl. "Overman"), whom is superior above the Untermensch (underman', 'sub-man', 'subhuman'). And that Untermensch is inferior to the Superturk ('Übermensch') in their Grey Wolves organisation, MHP party (Nationalist Movement Party) of Devlet Bahçeli and late Alparslan Türkeş, and Justice and Development Party (AK Party) of Recep Tayyip Erdoğan and Fatih Şahin. These Untermenschen are the Kurds, Arabs, Armenians, Greeks, Jews, Iranians, Berbers, Black Africans, Georgians, Bulgarians, Slavs, Germanic peoples, Latin Romanesque peoples, Celtic peoples, Baltic peoples, Basque peoples these Turks look down upon, because their aim is the Great Ottoman Empire, to Unite the Turkic peoples, Turkey, the Turkish migrant populations in Western-Europe (Turkish enclases, hoods, Ghetto's and thus all Turkic peoples; the Turkish people, the Altai people, Azerbaijanis, Chuvash people, Gagauz people, Kazakhs, Kyrgyz people, Turkmens, Tuvans, Uyghurs, Uzbeks, and Yakuts.


Map of the distribution of Turkic languages across Eurasia.


The party logo of the far right and Ultra-nationalist Nationalist Movement Party (MHP) of Devlet Bahçeli


Alparslan Türkeş, the founder and president of the Nationalist Movement Party (MHP) and the Grey Wolves (Ülkü Ocakları), openly identified with pan-Turkism and sympathised with National Socialism as well as Adolf Hitler. Türkeşrepresented the far-right of the Turkish political spectrum. Türkeş was a key figure in shaping Turkish nationalism and reviving Pan-Turkism from the 1940s onwards. Soon after his death in 1997, Turkish President Süleyman Demirel stated that his passing had been a "great loss to the political life of Turkey". Similarly, Turkey's first female Prime Minister Tansu Çiller described him as a "historic individual".


Alparslan Türkeş at a Turkish Nationalist really


The logo of the extreme right and Ultra nationalist, aggressive and extremely violent Grey Wolves (Turkish: Bozkurtlar) organisation. This Turkish far-right paramilitary organization and political movement is affiliated with the Nationalist Movement Party (MHP)

Turkey's Grey Wolves Organization – An Arm Of President Erdoğan's Governing Coalition – Fights In Syria, Azerbaijan, Praises Chechen Terrorist Shamil Basayev, Runs Branches In U.S., Europe February 9, 2022 | By A. Smith*

www.memri.org/reports/turkeys-grey-wolves-organization-%E2%80%93-arm-president-erdo%C4%9Fans-governing-coalition-%E2%80%93-fights-syria

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Next to that Turkish Nationalism and 'racism' you have fierce Kurd Nationalism and the Kurd desire for Kurdistan in Europe, expressed by Turkish Kurds, Syrian Kurds, Iraqi Kurds and Iranian Kurds in Europe. Some of these Kurds are in conflict with the Turks, Turkmens, Arabs and Iranians in Turkey 🇹🇷, Syria 🇸🇾, Iraq 🇮🇶 and Iran 🇮🇷 . And in Western Europe Kurds often clash with Turks and occasionaly West-European Kurds also clashed with Moroccan and other Islamic State supporters, because the Kurds fought against Islamic State in Syria and Iraq. And You have of course Moroccan, Algerian and Tunesian nationalist and Berber activism (often anti-Arabic) in Western Europe. North Africans often live in tension with the Western-European police and their are tensions between White Native Europeans on one side and Moroccan migrants on the other side. Within the Iranian community you have various groups and Iranians are also very nationalistic people, and as proud Farsi speaking Persian Iranians many of them dislike or hate Arabs. Somalians, Sudanese, Eritreans and Ethiopians in Europe often have a clan, tribal or group identity, and they do not easily mix with other groups. Often you also have political rivalries between different ideological and pro-government and pro-opposition (rebel militia) people and etc. Polish, Lithuanian, Estonian, Romanian and Bulgarian guest workers mix in and blend in more easily, because they are white European people, often wear the same clothes as Dutch people, are christians and hard workers. A minority of them are low lifes, involved in alcoholism, drugs, street fights, car accidents due to drunk driving, deviant behavior, vandalism and an negative attitude. I don't like to see such Poles when I see them and avoid contact and keep my distance towards them if I can. I don't like them because they give good hard working Poles a bad name. Because the majority of them are hard working agricultural workers, factory workers, truck drivers, truck mechanics, employees of Dutch supermarkets, hotels and restaurants and etc. We have very few problems with Polish, Ukrainian, Lithuanian, Estonian, Latvian, Hungarian, Czech, Romanian and Bulgarian people. There are some Bulgarian and Romanian criminals, but the amount of Bulgarian and Romanian criminals is nothing if you compare them to the Dutch, Moroccan, Turkish, Kurd, Albanian, Italian and other criminals over here.

The danger in Europe is the increasing Nationalist, regionalist, localist, Nativist, Jingoist, ethnonationalist, Identitarian, Isolationalist, Autarkic, xenophobe, racist, antisemitic, islamophobe, white nationalist direction many groups, movements, fractions, political parties, party wings ( en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Der_Fl%C3%BCgel ) are going. And we should stop comparing to much with history, because the present day is different. But we should know history, different phases of history and certainly could learn from history, but we should look at today and analyse the present day situation. What I see a lot is syncretism, the practice of combining different beliefs and various schools of thought.

Syncretism involves the merging or assimilation of several originally discrete traditions, especially in the theology and mythology of religion, thus asserting an underlying unity and allowing for an inclusive approach to other faiths. Syncretism also occurs commonly in expressions of art and culture, known as eclecticism, as well as in politics, known as syncretic politics.

If I look critically, seriously and historically and in the same time in the present day sense, I see a 'negative' form of Syncretism today, where in the past Syncretism has worked positively in theology, mythology of religion, and the Enlightenment, today in the political and social cultural sense I see a dangerous political Syncretism in which past Communist (Soviet influence, East-German Prussian state socialism and communism, the DDR state patriotism and discipline of the collectivist society), Imperialist Monarchist (The German Reichsbürger movement; monarchists who support a restoration of the German Empire or Holy Roman Empire), Social Democratic (the right wing and maybe nationalist wing of Social Democracy), Corporatist, Italian Fascist, German and Austrian Nazi, Hungarian authoritarianism (regent of Hungary Miklós Horthy whom ruled Hungary from 1 March 1920 until 15 October 1944) and Modern National Rightwing Populism merge into new forms. The different European nationalist and Rightwing Populist movements and political parties by the way have different positions on the war in Ukraine. Some are Pro-Putin/Pro-Russian and anti-American and anti-NATO/Anti-EU (European Union) and others are Pro-Ukrainian (like the Rightwing Populist Italian Prime Minister Giorgia Meloni of the far right Fratelli d'Italia [Brothers of Italy] party).

Jaga, we agree on the fact that we want to avoid a lack of stability, and a formation of a far right or nationalistic-extreme type of government like it was in Nazi Germany, Fascist Italy, Falangist Francoist Spain (1936–1975) under general dictator Francisco Franco (4 December 1892 – 20 November 1975) or the Military Junta of Chile from 1973 to 1981 under Chilean general and dictator Augusto Pinochet nor do we want a regime like regent of Hungary Miklós Horthy (from 1 March 1920 until 15 October 1944) and neither do we want the Sanacja regime in Poland (1926-1939) back under the leadership of Józef Piłsudski, Ignacy Mościcki and Edward Rydz-Śmigły.


Marshal Edward Rydz-Śmigły on a propaganda poster, 1936


Propaganda poster with dictator Józef Piłsudski (5 December 1867 – 12 May 1935)

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