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Post by leslie on Apr 22, 2007 9:53:28 GMT -7
Leslie the Anglik
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Post by leslie on Apr 22, 2007 11:57:34 GMT -7
St. George's Day (2) St. George killing the Dragon - no relation to my ex-mother-in-law!! Leslie
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Post by bescheid on Apr 22, 2007 15:05:46 GMT -7
Dear Leslie For why, you have not elaborated on this day? I was just curios and run it up. Your UK is fascinating. The history of St. George. A quick run of his life, much was unknown by my self: St. George: Born in turkey Lived in 3rd century Parents{Christian} Was a Roman Solder Later beheaded in Lydda Palistine for staying with his beliefs. www.woodlands-junior.kent.sch.uk/customs/stgeorge3.htmlHad you noticed of the same three colours used but with different disigns of {Red-White and blue} of the flags of British, France and Niederlande. It would be interesting to know how this came to be, if perhaps the work of the Normans or that of Charlemagne. Charles
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Post by rdywenur on Apr 22, 2007 16:18:38 GMT -7
Be nice Sir Leslie, she just might turn around and turn you to toast.
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Post by leslie on Apr 23, 2007 1:13:28 GMT -7
Rdy...
You don't know my ex-mother-in-law - she wouldn't turn me into toast, more likely a toad!!
Leslie
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Post by leslie on Apr 23, 2007 1:44:39 GMT -7
George
You raise several questions about St. George's Day in England.
Firstly, it is not a big day in England, in fact it is hardly remembered - I feel that if yesterday you had asked a representative group of Angliks what day it was, they would have said 'Sunday'! The more academic might have said Shakespeare's anniversary, but I doubt whether 10% would have said St. George's Day. I think one of the reasons is that England is basically a Protestant/Church of England country, and do not go in for Saints and Martyrs as much as some other religions. Then again, 'St. George' is only a borrowed Saint - he is the Patron Saint of about 10 other countries and some cities. He wasn't even English, as you say, being born in Turkey and being a Roman Soldier. He became a Saint in the reign of Edward III (14th century) and helped to become known when Shakespeare wrote in the play 'Henry v' with the English troops rallying with the cry 'God for Harry, England and St. George'. In 1963 he was demoted into a third class minor saint by the RC Church, but restored somewhat by Pope John Paul in 2000.
He has become more known in England recently through the English football team supporters sporting the flag of St George - a red + on a white background - this forms part of the Union flag. I'm not sure about the link between the colours of Britain, France and the Netherlands, except it may have something to do with England being invaded from Friesland by the Angles and also the Normans. But I'd have to do some research. It may just be coincidence, as red and white are common colours on national flags.
Enough babble. Hope you are well - you seem to be busy.
Leslie
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Post by jeanne on Apr 23, 2007 4:21:45 GMT -7
Leslie and others,
Did you know that St George shares his feast day with St Adalbert, known as the"Apostle of the Slavs"? Born in Bohemia in 956, Adalbert was first a bishop of Prague, then a Benedictine monk. He evangelized in Poland, Prussia, Hungary and Russia. In 997 he was martyred near Gdansk, Poland.
So, Happy St. Adalbert's Day to all!
Jeanne
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Post by bescheid on Apr 23, 2007 6:34:10 GMT -7
George You raise several questions about St. George's Day in England. Firstly, it is not a big day in England, in fact it is hardly remembered - I feel that if yesterday you had asked a representative group of Angliks what day it was, they would have said 'Sunday'! The more academic might have said Shakespeare's anniversary, but I doubt whether 10% would have said St. George's Day. I think one of the reasons is that England is basically a Protestant/Church of England country, and do not go in for Saints and Martyrs as much as some other religions. Then again, 'St. George' is only a borrowed Saint - he is the Patron Saint of about 10 other countries and some cities. He wasn't even English, as you say, being born in Turkey and being a Roman Soldier. He became a Saint in the reign of Edward III (14th century) and helped to become known when Shakespeare wrote in the play 'Henry v' with the English troops rallying with the cry 'God for Harry, England and St. George'. In 1963 he was demoted into a third class minor saint by the RC Church, but restored somewhat by Pope John Paul in 2000. He has become more known in England recently through the English football team supporters sporting the flag of St George - a red + on a white background - this forms part of the Union flag. I'm not sure about the link between the colours of Britain, France and the Netherlands, except it may have something to do with England being invaded from Friesland by the Angles and also the Normans. But I'd have to do some research. It may just be coincidence, as red and white are common colours on national flags. Enough babble. Hope you are well - you seem to be busy. Leslie Leslie Are you talking to George or myself? Haa, only jesting now! Also iwith my babble, I forgot to make mention of the American Flag colours also being that of red/white/blue. Perhaps maybe from the time as it was a British colony? Thank you also for your thoughts. I am well, usally always well, just some times more, some times less, and some times inbetween. Was forced by the laws of nature to stop guzzling my favourite beer and wine, {acid reflux got into the works, and weight required one size larger pants}. Work: {we must all be happy with our work, for it brings to us pleasures of accomplishment and self rewards} Charles
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Post by bescheid on Apr 23, 2007 7:20:45 GMT -7
Leslie and others, Did you know that St George shares his feast day with St Adalbert, known as the"Apostle of the Slavs"? Born in Bohemia in 956, Adalbert was first a bishop of Prague, then a Benedictine monk. He evangelized in Poland, Prussia, Hungary and Russia. In 997 he was martyred near Gdansk, Poland. So, Happy St. Adalbert's Day to all! Jeanne jeanne Was this the same Adalbert ending up as executed for chopping down sacred oak trees in Saxony by pagans? I tend to mix up the Adalberts as one being the Saint and the other as being the Prince Adalbert of house Hohenzollern {Prussian} Charles
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Post by leslie on Apr 23, 2007 7:35:02 GMT -7
CHARLES Sorry about the 'George', it was just one of my English-type 'jokes'! I can sympathise with your having to stay off beer and wine - how long is this to last? You know I have had ill-health since last end of November - this resulted (and continues) in a ban on all alcohol and I see little chance of a reversal of the medical edict in the near future! Just think - no beer or wine since the end of November, and worst of all, no wodka!! I must admit I have cheated a little from time to time, lacing my evening cup of tea with a little whisky! My friends persuaded me to have a half pint of beer the other week when we were out on our usual 'Tuesday night' and I was ill all the next day!*********** Jeanne At least Adalbert worked and died in Poland - his tiny church in the Market Square in Krakow is one of my favourite features of the area. Click on small image to enlarge. Leslie
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Post by kaima on Apr 23, 2007 8:09:26 GMT -7
You know I have had ill-health since last end of November - this resulted (and continues) in a ban on all alcohol and I see little chance of a reversal of the medical edict in the near future! Just think - no beer or wine since the end of November, and worst of all, no wodka!! I must admit I have cheated a little from time to time, lacing my evening cup of tea with a little whisky! My friends persuaded me to have a half pint of beer the other week when we were out on our usual 'Tuesday night' and I was ill all the next day!*********** Leslie Leslie, You have my sympathy and also the bad luck for me to receive an email from a Scotsman in Germany with just the song for you: To commemorate her 69th birthday on October 1, 2006 actress/vocalist, Julie Andrews made a special appearance at Manhattan's Radio City Music Hall for the benefit of the AARP. One of the musical numbers she performed was "My Favourite Things" from the legendary movie "The Sound Of Music". Here are the lyrics she used: "Maalox and nose drops and needles for knitting, Walkers and handrails and new dental fittings, Bundles of magazines tied up in string, These are a few of my favourite things. Cadillacs and cataracts, and hearing aids and glasses, Polident and Fixodent and false teeth in glasses, Pacemakers, golf carts and porches with swings, These are a few of my favourite things. When the pipes leak, When the bones creak, When the knees go bad, I simply remember my favourite things, And then I don't feel so bad. Hot tea and crumpets and corn pads for bunions, No spicy hot food or food cooked with onions, Bathrobes and heating pads and hot meals they bring, These are a few of my favourite things. Back pains, confused brains, and no need for sinning, Thin bones and fractures and hair that is thinning, And we won't mention our short shrunken frames, When we remember our favourite things. When the joints ache, When the hips break, When the eyes grow dim, Then I remember the great life I've had, And then I don't feel so bad."
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Post by leslie on Apr 23, 2007 8:57:54 GMT -7
Kai
Very good. But I think the very last line of the last chorus should be 'And then I feel f******* bad'!!
Leslie
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Post by kaima on Apr 23, 2007 9:56:18 GMT -7
Kai Very good. But I think the very last line of the last chorus should be 'And then I feel f******* bad'!! Leslie Did you have a VERY short singing career? Kai
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Post by jeanne on Apr 23, 2007 14:06:54 GMT -7
[quote author=bescheid board=abouteverythingnothing thread=1177260808 post=1177338045[/quote]
jeanne
Was this the same Adalbert ending up as executed for chopping down sacred oak trees in Saxony by pagans?
I tend to mix up the Adalberts as one being the Saint and the other as being the Prince Adalbert of house Hohenzollern {Prussian}[/quote]
Charles,
I never heard that story, so I don't know! My info said he was martyred for the faith, so I don't know if chopping down sacred oaks qualifies, though I guess it would if he was trying to discourage the paganism. I'd be interested in knowing if you figure out if it was the St Adalbert or the Prince.
Jeanne
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Post by jeanne on Apr 23, 2007 14:26:23 GMT -7
Leslie,
You'll have to give me a clue to find St Adalbert's tiny church in the photo. All I see is the large two-spired church which I believe to be St Mary's (am I right about that?) Give me a hint where to look for St Adalbert's. Thanks.
Jeanne
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