ST. GEORGE'S DAY, UK

[leslie]

Jeanne

St. Adalbert's church is almost at the right hand side of the frame. It has a white main part of the building and a green roof. Several trees almost surround it. Mariaka is central upper in the frame and Adalbert's is to the right of this separated by a white block of shops and restaurants. OK?

Leslie

[bescheid]

jeanne said:

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jeanne

Was this the same Adalbert ending up as executed for chopping down sacred oak trees in Saxony by pagans?

I tend to mix up the Adalberts as one being the Saint and the other as being the Prince Adalbert of house Hohenzollern {Prussian}[/quote]

Charles,

I never heard that story, so I don't know! My info said he was martyred for the faith, so I don't know if chopping down sacred oaks qualifies, though I guess it would if he was trying to discourage the paganism. I'd be interested in knowing if you figure out if it was the St Adalbert or the Prince.

Jeanne[/quote]

Ok, I was wrong. Age and memory do not always make good companions.

Your Adalbert {Albert} is of Prague. He had his head chopped at Eblag {Baltic Coast of Poland} for the similar reason of attempting to convert pagan Prussians {This is Jagas area of expertise}. To save the day, the church people will then say they were {Martyred}.

The Keltecs were very similar in temperament. Some Christians would enter into the forest of North Germany to convert the heathen tribes to Christianity. It should be remembered, that the oak trees were sacred to these tribes. For the belief was the tree contained a spirit and as so, would be highly regarded to as not offend the tree {spirit} and as so; often gifts were given onto the tree. Some times the gifts would be the heads of enemies, or an arm or leg to hang onto the branches. Others would be baskets of fruit or food offerings as a gift or what ever was of perceived value, for the tree as holding a spirit, one would only wish to please.

As a manner of debunking this pagan belief, the Christians would chop or attempt to chop down the tree {oak} and inturn would end up with their neck chopped in the stead, or worse.

At those times, their were endless forest off the coast mixed with great swamps. With this land were many different tribes with intermix of various religious beliefs. Even the viking {Dänemark} would build their dragon ships in the deep channels of a swamp off the river head drainage to hide the construction from enemies until the finished crafts were floated safely out to see. In doing so, very often the services of these tribes were employed as for hire warriors. The Teutonics were very good at this.

Now the Teutonics were of several different interrelated tribes they differentiated them selves by hair style for tribal recognition.

My last name is of one of those hair styles.

{How would you like to live your life by a hair style name?}

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adalbert_of_Prague

I do trust, some of this makes some sense even though rather lengthy.

Charles

[jeanne]

leslie said:

Jeanne

St. Adalbert's church is almost at the right hand side of the frame. It has a white main part of the building and a green roof. Several trees almost surround it. Mariaka is central upper in the frame and Adalbert's is to the right of this separated by a white block of shops and restaurants. OK?

Leslie

Yes, Leslie, now I see it and it is certainly tiny as you said! Also,
very charming. I can see why it is your favorite.

The church I received my first communion in was a St Adalbert's in the Hyde Park neighborhood of Boston, so I have a fondness for St Adalbert. Thanks for sharing the Krakow one.

Jeanne

[jeanne]

Charles,

Thanks for the explanation, as gruesome as it is. And your last name is a hairstyle?? Any details on what it looked like?

Jeanne

[bescheid]

jeanne said:

Charles,

Thanks for the explanation, as gruesome as it is. And your last name is a hairstyle?? Any details on what it looked like?

Jeanne

Jeanne

I meant not to be gruesome in the details, my only reason were to be accurate as to the times.

You have asked of the tribal identification hair. It was pulled back behind the head, and knotted close to the head, the remainder flowed down. But, no longer then two hand lengths. My ancestral tribe is the {Strähne} it means lock {haare}.

I attempted to locate a url of photo decryption, but failed miserably. Only scholastic or childish descriptions were available.

The following is a very boring writing, but, it some gives a some what description of those tribes and the Roman experience.

www.exulanten.com/hermann.html

I do trust this will be of help with these descriptions. Mean whilst, I will try to locate a better url.

Charles

[jeanne]

Charles,

I certainly didn't mean to imply that you were being gruesome, only the details of the story were!

Thanks for the description of the hairstyle. Interesting, and as a side-note, I think I've seen some young men sporting the same style lately .

Thanks also for the link. I truly do enjoy reading history like this. Though I studied much history in college, a lot of the really old European history was merely described in generalities like "Germanic tribes did this or that..." It's nice to have details.

Jeanne