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Post by scatts on Jan 14, 2007 13:17:02 GMT -7
d**n! How did I miss this thread before and more importantly miss Pieter's trip to Warsaw.
EDIT - because I joined in September! Dummy!
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Post by pieter on Jan 14, 2007 17:43:43 GMT -7
Wojtek,
Thanks a lot for your four photographs and your gentlemans reply. Now I am really getting curious how you look from a short distance, in a selfportrait. Wojtek, I think you would have liked your fellow Varsovian Aadam if you had been earlier on the Forum. Sometimes your replies remind me a little bit of him, the same cultural, Polish sophistication (yes, I think educated Poles have a sort of refined inner civilization and kindness, many Western Europeans have lost) and openess to "other views" (since I am a foreigner or alien from abroad who shows his limited view of Poland/Warsaw as he sees it). I argued with my mother about Poland a few times, because she has the opinion that the Old Poland of the Intelligentsia, aristocracy, Old Money was lost or replaced by the New Poland of common proletarians and the Marxist class of the nomenclatura (party functionairies and rude public servants). In my opinion there has been an evolution and restoration of that Old Poland, via the New Poland into a Present Poland. The Old Poland of the twenties and thirties was never totally destroyed, because in the Polish underground, families and individuals survived, in poor conditions, but they survived. Some went abroad and came back. From the farmers, workers, miners and lower middle class that went studying in the fourtees and fiftees a new intelligentsia evolved of teachers, administrators, public servants, engineers and doctors. I probably told my vision on this before, somewhere on this Forum over here, but I find it necessery to repeat my opinion about this. The children of this first generation that went up, also finished their highschools and went to the school of economics, polythechnical school or Universities, and they replaced their parents generation (and before and after that) in the jobs they did. And their children were children of a new Middle class or high class. The minimalized Old aristocracy and intelligentsia from before and during the Second world war mixed or merged with these newer generations, influenced eachother and created the elites, Communist nomenclature and dissident movement. Nowadays fortunately the first generation that never witnessed Communism grows up. And their children will be totally freed from the burdens of the troubled past ( of Nazi occupoation, destruction and the Communist opression after that).
Back to your images and words. Wojtek I am fond of cities, architecture, city development, the periphery of cities, and so also the melancholic subburbs of the "old" great cities of Central-Europe (Warszawa, Poznan, Krakow, Prague and Budapest), which I experianced in grey and with rain too. I provided the old stuff of the forum, because I could not find any new stuf, and also changed some subjects to put them in a new fresh perspective (I only changed some of my own contributions in the old threads), because I stil found them interesting. I agree with you that the whole site by Jaga and Nancy is a great source of information, because fellow Forum members put information on it and do research, you can find nowhere else on the internet. I really like the photographs of your yesterday's walk with the dog in your suburb. It is nice to use filmstils of the movie camera. The are nice snap shots and a sort of sequence. I like the old trees combined with architecture too.
Pieter
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Post by pieter on Jan 14, 2007 18:35:20 GMT -7
This is what you wrote earlier overhere in the music department in the Topic: Polish Pop music;
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Post by Jaga on Apr 7, 2007 22:01:36 GMT -7
Pieter,
your photographs of Warsaw are fantastic! How is it that I did not see it before! I wonder what happened to Bujno pictures?
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Post by pieter on Jul 15, 2007 3:50:26 GMT -7
I think that this topic belongs in the POLAND - POLSKA - POLONIA department under IMAGES Poland in Pictures!
Not in the archive! Why, whel because the photographs are stil representative for Modern Warsaw today, and it could inspire others to post their Warsaw images!
Pieter
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Post by Jaga on Jul 15, 2007 18:33:46 GMT -7
definitively. It has a long thread of pictures. We will move it back there
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Post by scatts on Jul 16, 2007 22:36:51 GMT -7
Excellent! And here is a Warsaw picture to celebrate the topic move:
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Post by pieter on Jul 16, 2007 23:47:06 GMT -7
Thank you Jaga! Nice image Scatts, interesting construction! Where is it?
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Post by rdywenur on Jul 17, 2007 4:28:44 GMT -7
He probably removed them from internet.
These are great fotos. How about posting more.
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Post by scatts on Jul 17, 2007 23:40:11 GMT -7
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Post by pieter on Jul 18, 2007 0:33:32 GMT -7
Scatts,
Wonderful wave like glass architecture. I was fond of the English 19th century glass buildings, but the Futuristic constructions of today are something completely differant! It must be a great sight from your office or the Palace of Culture.
Pieter
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Post by scatts on Jul 19, 2007 2:43:44 GMT -7
Truth be told, Pieter, the development as a whole is not very architecturally exciting. The glass roof is the only feature of any real merit and the best view of that is the one I show above. I must take a better shot now the place is open.
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Post by Jaga on Jul 19, 2007 7:47:07 GMT -7
Ian,
this picture shows a really modern architecture, but you are saying that it is not very exciting. Please, post another picture. For me this looks exciting enough!
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Post by rdywenur on Jul 19, 2007 13:24:38 GMT -7
Jaga...are you having trouble with your A's Scatts = Ian ;D
Scatts....I think the roof looks like an ocean of water but I would not wish to be the one to have to clean each window pane ;D I think it is cool.
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