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Post by Jaga on Jan 7, 2008 0:54:17 GMT -7
at least they will do it without Am. help: Israel to brief George Bush on options for Iran strikeISRAELI security officials are to brief President George W Bush on their latest intelligence about Iran’s nuclear programme - and how it could be destroyed - when he begins a tour of the Middle East in Jerusalem this week. Ehud Barak, the defence minister, is said to want to convince him that an Israeli military strike against uranium enrichment facilities in Iran would be feasible if diplomatic efforts failed to halt nuclear operations. A range of military options has been prepared. Last month it was revealed that the US National Intelligence Estimate report, drawing together information from 16 agencies, had concluded that Iran stopped a secret nuclear weapon programme in 2003. Israeli intelligence is understood to agree that the project was halted around the time of America’s invasion of Iraq, but has “rock solid” information that it has since started up again. www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article3137521.ece?view=print...
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Post by Pawian on Jan 7, 2008 1:03:35 GMT -7
at least they will do it without Am. help: Israel to brief George Bush on options for Iran strikeISRAELI security officials are to brief President George W Bush on their latest intelligence about Iran’s nuclear programme - and how it could be destroyed - when he begins a tour of the Middle East in Jerusalem this week. Ehud Barak, the defence minister, is said to want to convince him that an Israeli military strike against uranium enrichment facilities in Iran would be feasible if diplomatic efforts failed to halt nuclear operations. A range of military options has been prepared. Last month it was revealed that the US National Intelligence Estimate report, drawing together information from 16 agencies, had concluded that Iran stopped a secret nuclear weapon programme in 2003. Israeli intelligence is understood to agree that the project was halted around the time of America’s invasion of Iraq, but has “rock solid” information that it has since started up again. www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article3137521.ece?view=print... No they won`t attack. They don`t need more problems with terrorists. That is why the title of this thread should be "Israel has means to attack Iran."
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Post by livia on Jan 7, 2008 6:45:50 GMT -7
I found more thread titles I personally find discouraging to partcipate. 'The Roots of Polish Antisemitism' is one of them. There's nothing like 'Polish antisemitism' so different from just 'antisemitism' to ""proclaim"" it worlwide with the title.
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Post by hollister on Jan 7, 2008 6:51:24 GMT -7
at least they will do it without Am. help: Israel to brief George Bush on options for Iran strikeISRAELI security officials are to brief President George W Bush on their latest intelligence about Iran’s nuclear programme - and how it could be destroyed - when he begins a tour of the Middle East in Jerusalem this week. Ehud Barak, the defence minister, is said to want to convince him that an Israeli military strike against uranium enrichment facilities in Iran would be feasible if diplomatic efforts failed to halt nuclear operations. A range of military options has been prepared. Last month it was revealed that the US National Intelligence Estimate report, drawing together information from 16 agencies, had concluded that Iran stopped a secret nuclear weapon programme in 2003. Israeli intelligence is understood to agree that the project was halted around the time of America’s invasion of Iraq, but has “rock solid” information that it has since started up again. www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article3137521.ece?view=print... No they won`t attack. They don`t need more problems with terrorists. That is why the title of this thread should be "Israel has means to attack Iran." Pawian, Who is "they"? Israel, the USA or someone else?
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Post by bescheid on Jan 7, 2008 8:09:14 GMT -7
I think perhaps Pawian has an excellent point with Israeli continuance of problems with terrorist. But, I think perhaps it goes some what further then what is as appears to be too simple. For what is in appearance of the with out label, box of troubles, once the lid is raised, then behold, a rather unexpected bundle of troubles will appear. As common knowledge, Israel is a small country with the sea at back, surrounded in front and sides, by potential enemies. At present a very currant and present situation with Hamas. www.upi.com/NewsTrack/Top_News/2008/01/04/palestinian_and_israeli_raids_target_hamas/4462/As most know, Hamas receives operations orders commensurate with funding from Damascus Syria. Hamas is supported and paid only commensurate with deeds completed. The folks at Tel Aviv and the folks in Damascus, are not exactly kissing cousins. For the government of Syria would enjoy very much of 2 events to occur. 1} they would very enjoy the return to their total control, the Golan heights from Israel. 2}they would enjoy the prospect of Israeli combat aircraft to cross over or close to their airspace, for an opportunity of targeting and shoot down of any Israeli aircraft. {With any combat interdiction, it becomes fluid, and whilst the intent of Israeli combat aircraft is Iranian targeting, whilst engagement is initiated, a crippled or shot down Israeli aircraft is entirely possible to violated Syrian air space. Thus, an international incident is born, with Israel as the bad fellow} Tele Aviv is aware and would wish to remove this risk. At present, bad timing for the rattling of Israeli swords, and worse, attempting to turn the tide of opinion whilst in the midst of an American election. But, if at present, Tele Aviv, may place influence to Mr. Bush, this would inself, be very beneficial to the Israeli cause. As exampled: As a risk prevention measure, it would be a solution if swung to the American occupational forces in Iraq. To allow Israeli air craft to enter over Iraqi air space in a specific window of time. For completion of the air strike against Iranian targeting, then within this window of time, allow the return of the same aircraft over this same air space. This in turn, would allow a safety net for any crippled damaged aircraft to land within the confines of Iraq or a successful rescue of aircrew in terms of a sea ditching. All with the guarantee of American protection. Interesting will be the developing situation Charles
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Post by valpomike on Jan 7, 2008 10:48:34 GMT -7
Charles,
You would not like Israeli, and we all know it. They need to be safe from all. And do whatever it takes for this.
Michael Dabrowski
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Post by bescheid on Jan 7, 2008 13:07:10 GMT -7
Charles, You would not like Israeli, and we all know it. They need to be safe from all. And do whatever it takes for this. Michael Dabrowski My dear Michael For what has this to do with the subject at hand? Are you so daft to not grasp the object of subject matter??? Rather I would like Israeli is a rather ignorant matter. I do not understand this stance.. Are you to infer, that as a German man, I would be ashamed to meet and be-friend a Israeli? Is this a stupid remark or of out of ignorance?? For I am not sure of your intelligence. Ok, let us take for an instance. You are not sure, ok? The country of Israel and of my country Germany, are very close in ties. Of currant and present, most any residence locality of Israeli, is one of the most safe areas in Germany. And this is not just as casual, but fact. Many of the various schools I have had the option to attend that were of weapons/defense of person/offense of person/ was usually taught by an Israeli instructor. Michael, for some reason, I am be-coming very suspicious of you. I would tend to believe you are not so ignorant, but a plant here for information gathering. So, who is your boss? Charles
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Post by Jaga on Jan 7, 2008 13:45:45 GMT -7
Charles, You would not like Israeli, and we all know it. They need to be safe from all. And do whatever it takes for this. Michael Dabrowski Michael, can you like or dislike the nation? The problem is the politics towards other countries. Is it OK to attack another country? Is it OK to attack another country if you are Israel, but not OK if you are Syria for instance? Is it OK for the US to go to Iraq to change its political system, but what about another country (for instance CHina) will try to build its political system somewhere else? Why there is such a double standard?
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Post by Jaga on Jan 7, 2008 13:48:03 GMT -7
No they won`t attack. They don`t need more problems with terrorists. That is why the title of this thread should be "Israel has means to attack Iran." Pawian, you did not read the news which were posted earlier that Israel was very dissapointed after Am. CIA report that America does not consider Iran dangerous and developing its nuclear system. Israeli immediately sent its delegation here to the US to discuss it. Is it OK for Israel to attack Lebanon or Syrian facilities but not the vice-versa? Is it OK for Israel to develop its nuclear facilities but not for Iran? Why such doublestandard?
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Post by Pawian on Jan 7, 2008 14:38:08 GMT -7
I found more thread titles I personally find discouraging to partcipate. 'The Roots of Polish Antisemitism' is one of them. There's nothing like 'Polish antisemitism' so different from just 'antisemitism' to ""proclaim"" it worlwide with the title. OK, let`s change the name to "Roots of anti-semitism in Poland."
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Post by Pawian on Jan 7, 2008 14:41:03 GMT -7
No they won`t attack. They don`t need more problems with terrorists. That is why the title of this thread should be "Israel has means to attack Iran." Pawian, Who is "they"? Israel, the USA or someone else? They means the Israeli government. I suppose there are a few big shots in it and they take collective decisions.... Collectivism and cooperation has a long tradition in Israel....you know, all those kibutzim....
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Post by Pawian on Jan 7, 2008 14:56:50 GMT -7
No they won`t attack. They don`t need more problems with terrorists. That is why the title of this thread should be "Israel has means to attack Iran." Pawian, you did not read the news which were posted earlier that Israel was very dissapointed after Am. CIA report that America does not consider Iran dangerous and developing its nuclear system. Israeli immediately sent its delegation here to the US to discuss it. The delegation was sent to show that Israelis are concerned about the safety of their country. That`s all. Wouldn`t Poland send a delagation in a similar situation? Yes, it is OK, because Israel is a democratic country ruled by sensible people elected by the majority, wheras Syria and Iran are ruled by tyrants and fanatics. Double standard appears naturally when the fanatic Iranian government officially threatens to use nuclear weapons against another country without any substantial reason, just out of pure hatred. Is it so difficult to understand? Besides, to understand the today`s Israeli stance, we shouldn`t forget what we were talking about in threads concerning anti-semitism, old and modern. Was it all in vain? Is it so difficult to understand that Israelis want to prevent the massacre of their nation with all their means, for ever?
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Post by Pawian on Jan 7, 2008 14:58:30 GMT -7
Michael, for some reason, I am be-coming very suspicious of you. I would tend to believe you are not so ignorant, but a plant here for information gathering. So, who is your boss? Charles Matrix!!!!
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Post by valpomike on Jan 7, 2008 15:20:14 GMT -7
C.I.A.
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Post by Pawian on Jan 7, 2008 15:37:34 GMT -7
Hmmm.... By CIA do you mean California Institute of AbnormalArts or Completely Insane Anteaters? ?
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