Post by karl on Oct 15, 2008 14:05:10 GMT -7
For of even of some time past, the Naivete of NATO was simply outstanding as rather out of reality. When as the opportunity would arise, use of unconventional means of obtaining information was to bring to those of NATO, a very observable response of {how so terrible} and then those same folks would comment of how good the intelligence was, well ho hum now! These same folks would have to think that the tooth fairy brought to them this intelligence information? I think not..
In as much to this war in Afghanistan. It is not a cake walk on the road to success, this for sure..
It is an unconventional war. For the overturn of the enemy with their use of un-conventional war, it is logical to turn this same means of combat, into their direction. For never to allow your enemy to feel secure,but only to the opposite. The feeling of in-security must be conveyed into the direction of your enemy. For all means of security must be removed with use of removal of his/her support systems. Then use of sniper teams placed into positions of control through use of systematic precision assassinations.
With this in conjunction of programmes of mis-information inserts into local news-media complete with photos of target individuals as turn-coats and spys released as former captured prisoners turned as released spies with their freedom.
This is dirty terrible war fare tactics, but it is effective.
For to think, now what is the enemy doing in the conductive of the war?
Some years back in time, the Russians lost the war in Afghanistan with use of massive troop conventional combat. So,,how so will the Americans and NATO expect a better result?
Well, even our most bright and capable military minds have fallen into this trap of non-sense. But, to those of free thinking, formulate your opinion with use of tools of knowledge.
SPIEGEL ONLINE
10/15/2008 11:59 AMGERMAN GENERAL ON THE WAR
NATO's Naivete in Afghanistan
A number of military men have voiced concern recently about the progress of the war in Afghanistan. German Major General Hans-Lothar Domröse has joined the chorus. The NATO third in command in Afghanistan says the West was "perhaps a bit naïve."
German troops have been in Afghanistan since the beginning.
On Thursday, Germany's parliament, the Bundestag, is set to extend the country's mandate in Afghanistan by an additional 14 months and up its troop contingent by 1,000 to 4,500. Given that Chancellor Angela Merkel's government is a coalition of Germany's two largest parties -- the Christian Democrats and the Social Democrats -- the vote is seen as a sure thing.
Increasingly, though, the mission in Afghanistan is not. The voices of doubt about the mission have been multiplying as the death toll of NATO troops and Afghan civilians continues to rise and the Taliban shows no sign of disappearing. Earlier this month, Brigadier Mark Carleton-Smith, the departing commander of British forces in Afghanistan, added gravitas to the pessimism, saying "we're not going to win this war."
On Wednesday, the highest ranking German commander in Afghanistan, Major General Hans-Lothar Domröse, voiced his concerns in an interview with the Süddeutsche Zeitung. Domröse is the chief of staff of NATO's International Security Assistance Force (ISAF) and thus third in command of the 50,000 soldiers under NATO command in Afghanistan. He said in the interview that the West has gotten more than it bargained for in Afghanistan
He added, however, that one of the primary reasons for the difficulty ISAF is currently encountering is the fact that Taliban fighters are able to retreat to relatively safe havens across Afghanistan's 2,500-kilometer (1,553-mile) long border with Pakistan. "As long as these sanctuaries on the Pakistani side of the border exist, we are going to have a difficult time," he said, before adding that he didn't think the war in Afghanistan was winnable unless the border was sealed.
Germany has maintained a contingent in Afghanistan since the very beginning of the operation in 2002. Most of that time, however, the Bundeswehr has operated in the relatively peaceful northern part of the country while NATO allies took care of most of the fighting in the hard-fought south. And criticism of Germany's perceived unwillingness to fight has, occasionally, been intense.
Domröse acknowledged as much in the Süddeutsche interview. "Of course it isn't easy to hold together a coalition of 40 countries when there are some that primarily dig wells and others that primarily fight," he said. "That results in a certain amount of animosity."
But, he said, in order for ISAF to ultimately be successful, the mission didn't necessarily need more soldiers. Rather, he said, "we need more civilian reconstruction programs." Domröse said that he expects the Afghan army to be ready to take over much of the country's security needs by 2013.
cgh
© SPIEGEL ONLINE 2008
Respectively Submitted
Karl
In as much to this war in Afghanistan. It is not a cake walk on the road to success, this for sure..
It is an unconventional war. For the overturn of the enemy with their use of un-conventional war, it is logical to turn this same means of combat, into their direction. For never to allow your enemy to feel secure,but only to the opposite. The feeling of in-security must be conveyed into the direction of your enemy. For all means of security must be removed with use of removal of his/her support systems. Then use of sniper teams placed into positions of control through use of systematic precision assassinations.
With this in conjunction of programmes of mis-information inserts into local news-media complete with photos of target individuals as turn-coats and spys released as former captured prisoners turned as released spies with their freedom.
This is dirty terrible war fare tactics, but it is effective.
For to think, now what is the enemy doing in the conductive of the war?
Some years back in time, the Russians lost the war in Afghanistan with use of massive troop conventional combat. So,,how so will the Americans and NATO expect a better result?
Well, even our most bright and capable military minds have fallen into this trap of non-sense. But, to those of free thinking, formulate your opinion with use of tools of knowledge.
SPIEGEL ONLINE
10/15/2008 11:59 AMGERMAN GENERAL ON THE WAR
NATO's Naivete in Afghanistan
A number of military men have voiced concern recently about the progress of the war in Afghanistan. German Major General Hans-Lothar Domröse has joined the chorus. The NATO third in command in Afghanistan says the West was "perhaps a bit naïve."
German troops have been in Afghanistan since the beginning.
On Thursday, Germany's parliament, the Bundestag, is set to extend the country's mandate in Afghanistan by an additional 14 months and up its troop contingent by 1,000 to 4,500. Given that Chancellor Angela Merkel's government is a coalition of Germany's two largest parties -- the Christian Democrats and the Social Democrats -- the vote is seen as a sure thing.
Increasingly, though, the mission in Afghanistan is not. The voices of doubt about the mission have been multiplying as the death toll of NATO troops and Afghan civilians continues to rise and the Taliban shows no sign of disappearing. Earlier this month, Brigadier Mark Carleton-Smith, the departing commander of British forces in Afghanistan, added gravitas to the pessimism, saying "we're not going to win this war."
On Wednesday, the highest ranking German commander in Afghanistan, Major General Hans-Lothar Domröse, voiced his concerns in an interview with the Süddeutsche Zeitung. Domröse is the chief of staff of NATO's International Security Assistance Force (ISAF) and thus third in command of the 50,000 soldiers under NATO command in Afghanistan. He said in the interview that the West has gotten more than it bargained for in Afghanistan
He added, however, that one of the primary reasons for the difficulty ISAF is currently encountering is the fact that Taliban fighters are able to retreat to relatively safe havens across Afghanistan's 2,500-kilometer (1,553-mile) long border with Pakistan. "As long as these sanctuaries on the Pakistani side of the border exist, we are going to have a difficult time," he said, before adding that he didn't think the war in Afghanistan was winnable unless the border was sealed.
Germany has maintained a contingent in Afghanistan since the very beginning of the operation in 2002. Most of that time, however, the Bundeswehr has operated in the relatively peaceful northern part of the country while NATO allies took care of most of the fighting in the hard-fought south. And criticism of Germany's perceived unwillingness to fight has, occasionally, been intense.
Domröse acknowledged as much in the Süddeutsche interview. "Of course it isn't easy to hold together a coalition of 40 countries when there are some that primarily dig wells and others that primarily fight," he said. "That results in a certain amount of animosity."
But, he said, in order for ISAF to ultimately be successful, the mission didn't necessarily need more soldiers. Rather, he said, "we need more civilian reconstruction programs." Domröse said that he expects the Afghan army to be ready to take over much of the country's security needs by 2013.
cgh
© SPIEGEL ONLINE 2008
Respectively Submitted
Karl