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Post by kaima on Nov 13, 2013 13:06:09 GMT -7
JJ, it is unfair of you to ask us for an opinion on unidentified stuff you post on this site. At least show us the respect to give us a link to the source, so we can look it up and judge the author and what the opinion is worth.
As it is, this article appears spurious by conventinal history, which refers to Stalin as Georgian, I believe.
You could just as soon write that Stalin was a Martian and his wife from Timbuktu, and it would be just as easy to comment on as these accusations that he was Jewish.
What is the source?
What is your goal?
What is YOUR opinion, on both Stalin and this purported Jewish connection?
Give us your source, please. Otherwise you are wasting your time and ours.
Kai
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Post by kaima on Nov 13, 2013 13:24:09 GMT -7
Russian is a Nationality and more than likely a genetic predisposition. However, when they say Jewish and Russian I think of a genetically predisposed Russian of the Jewish religion. Am I wrong to consider Jew, Jewish etc, to be a statement of religion. They most likely are not Israeli. More likely they are descendants of the Khazarian Jews. Taking the easier part of these two comments / questions, if you ask 500 people you will likely get 650 answers. As far as Russian, substitute "American" and I believe it is as valid a question. All of the European countries and nationalities and cultures is a conglomeration, as is American. Thus I think there is no answer. On Jewish: yes, I think you are wrong to consider it just a religion. Just look at all the people, nazis, right wingers and all others, who consider it a race. Look at how they searched out all who were even part Jewish ancestry, even if fully assimilated and of another religion... And Israeli is another fish entirely. Look at their discrimination between Ashkenazi, Seraphic and Arabic Israeli. Then again, even your phrase of "genetically predisposed" carries connotations of racial and not (religious) belief with it. I buy into the theory that ethnically "you are what you choose to be". Most of us are an immediate mixture, and all of us are a mixture if we go back a generation, two or five, whether we wish to admit it or not. So we choose an identity, or we choose an ethnicity. Some even simply choose American, German or Polish to simplify their life. Then we choose who we wish to hate. |
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Post by karl on Apr 16, 2014 7:30:47 GMT -7
J.J.
A very hotly contested subject I must say..for only that which I dare to say is of my long past University studies of the land between two rivers that comprise the modern Iraq. Other wise, in as far as genitics, I am sorry, but my self am not qualified.
What that I have to say is of common knowledge from those days upon the conquest by Cyrus {of Persia]. For two very noteworth deeds he did so proclaim, was one, the official language change to Aramaic and the other,as a matter of repreations, by order of Cyrus to
Sheshbazzar the release of the Isralies. For then, the Israelies were freed to return to Jerusalem for them to rebuild the temple. For the Israelies, this was good, but not so good, for they were to leave a rich land of comfort into a rough land they were not accustomed to.
Of the above, I think perhaps best my self not to elaberate for the sake of argument commensuratly of requirement of show and tell. At this moment I am not properly prepared to do so. What I will so of this though, not of Bible written, but from known discoveries pertaining to the many offical records as left on clay tablets. Is the Israilie tribes did leave, but not all stayed together, for many did indeedso, travel to Jerusalem, but some split from this group and did so travel East into other lands.
As for mentioned, at present, my self hold no show and tell of the above other then just from memory of long past studies. With this, please consider the above as conjector..More or less to prime the pump to the well of knowledge.
Karl
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Post by Jaga on Apr 16, 2014 10:07:38 GMT -7
I think Stalin was mainly Georgian. Not sure he had even strong Jewish features? Lenin had not more than 1/4 Jewish blood. He had some Siberian tribes origin mainly.
The only real Russian Jew here is probably Leon (Lev) Trotsky.
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Post by Bob S on Apr 22, 2014 20:13:54 GMT -7
And guess what! MOST Russians are descendents of the Russ Vikings who settled that part of the world.
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Post by Eric on Apr 10, 2015 19:31:42 GMT -7
I can only imagine the motives of the author for posting material like that in the first place.
Lenin was one-quarter Jewish; his mother's father was Jewish.
Stalin was Georgian. Georgian ≠ Russian.
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Post by Jaga on Apr 12, 2015 0:10:15 GMT -7
Where is a link to this original article? It was posted two years ago, I do not remember the content exactly.
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