The extremes of Europe

[pieter]

Violent leftwing anarchist extremists in Germany








I believe we have face the threat of all extremisms and extremists, and therefor also monitor and controle the far left threat next to the Islamist and Neo-Nazi terrorists. Every extremism which wants to take human lives or wound others or their property is wrong. Also organized crime, ethnic gangs, migrant nationalism of Turks and the far left extremist groups of migrants like the Turkish, Greek, Kurd and other leftwing migrant extremists. Some of them take their war against their state and nationalist and islamist opponents to the West. We shouldn't allow the Kurd PKK and Turkish Grey Wolves to operate from the Netherlands, Belgium, Germany, Denmark, Austria or France.

[Nictoshek]

Just like in America with its own economic and immigration problems, Europeans too will have their clamoring voices heard...in their own Donald Trumps.

[pieter]

We have our own Donald Trump in the political context. The only difference is that he isn't rich, nor a businessman like Trump.



Wilders' goal after he graduated from secondary school was to see the world. Because he did not have enough money to travel to Australia, his preferred destination, he went to Israel instead. For several years he volunteered in a moshav and worked for several firms, becoming in his own words "a true friend of Israel". With the money he saved, he travelled to the neighbouring Arab countries, and was moved by the lack of democracy in the region. When he returned to the Netherlands, he retained Israeli ideas about counter-terrorism and a "special feeling of solidarity" for the country.

Living in Utrecht, Wilders initially worked in the health insurance industry. His interest in the subject led him into politics as a speech-writer for the centrer-right, liberal-conservative Netherlands' People's Party for Freedom and Democracy (VVD). The VVD today is one of the two government parties and the party of prime-minister Mark Rutte. Geert Wilders started his formal political career as a parliamentary assistant to the party leader Frits Bolkestein, specialising in foreign policy.



He held this job from 1990 to 1998. During this time Geert Wilders travelled extensively, visiting countries all across the Middle East, including Iran, Syria, Jordan, Egypt and Israel. Bolkestein was the first Dutch politician to address the consequences of mass immigration for Dutch society, including a sharp criticism of Muslim immigrants. He set an example for Wilders not only in his ideas but also in his confrontational speaking style. Political analyst Anno Bunnik later described Wilders as a "sorcerer's apprentice" to Bolkestein.

Wilders was listed as the most threatened politician in the Netherlands in 2008. After the political murders of Pim Fortuyn and Theo van Gogh in the Netherlands Geert Wilders is guarded 24 hours a day, 7 days a week.

Wilders is said to have been "deprived... of a personal life for his... hatred of Islam". He is constantly accompanied by a permanent security detail of about six plainclothes police officers, and does not receive visitors unless they are cleared in advance, thoroughly searched, and escorted at all times. He lives in a state-provided safe house which is outfitted to be bulletproof, is heavily guarded by police, and has a panic room. He is driven from his home to his offices in parliament in an armored police vehicle, and wears a bulletproof vest. His office is located in the most isolated corner of the Dutch Parliament building, and was chosen because potential terrorists can get to it through only one corridor, making it easier for his bodyguards to repel an attack. He is married to Krisztina Wilders (née Marfai), a former diplomat of Hungarian origin, with whom he can only meet about once every week due to security concerns. The restrictions on his life because of this, he said, are "a situation that I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy".

Wilder haircut



Wilders has acquired nicknames such as "Mozart" and "Captain Peroxide" because of his flamboyant platinum blond hairstyle. Radio Netherlands calls him "the most famous bleach-blond since Marilyn Monroe".



Wilders is an agnostic, but he has stated that he thinks Dutch Christians "are my allies" and that they fundamentally should want the same thing. But the Christian parties CDA (Christian democrats), ChristenUnie (ChristianUnion) and SGP (the Reformed Political Party) have clearly different agenda's and political views. The only thing Geert Wilders PVV, the CDA, ChristenUnie and the SGP have in common is their clear bond with Israel, they are Pro-Israeli parties, while the Leftwing Labour Party, GreenLeft and Socialist Party tend to be more pro-Palestinian. Bolkestein's VVD party is more neutral, but tend to have a mild Pro-Israeli stand, but favors good ties with the Palestinians too.

Geert Wilders is popular, because he is not diplomatic, not humble, direct, tough, confronting, uses street language, the language of the people, opposed to Muslim migration to the Netherlands, is anti-Islam, rightwing populist, clearly nationalistic in his patriotism. He is also popular because he turned himself against the political establishment in the Hague (the Dutch Washington DC), against the political elite, against Brussels and the EU. He does not care about international treaties, international law and the Dutch law against discrimination. He has strong ties with the hard right or far right of the USA and Israel. And in the same time build a coaltion with Flemish (Belgian), French and Austrian rightwing populist and nationalist parties.



Do you want more or less European Union: The PVV members and supporters shout: Less, Less, Less, Less!
Do you want more or less Labour party (social democrats): The PVV members and supporters shout: Less, Less, Less, Less!
And the third, question, I am actualy not allowed to say this, because they will sue you, there will be liberal prosecutors who will attack me, but freedom of expression is a large benefit to us all, and we have said nothing which is not allowed and have said nothing which isn't true. So, I ask you:
Do you want in this city and in the Netherlands, more or less Moroccans: The PVV members and supporters shout: Less, Less, Less, Less, less, less, less... de crowd shouts!;
Geert Wilders reply: Whel we, will arrange that then!


Cheers,
Pieter

[Nictoshek]

The other thing thats important to remember, is the fact that power always abhors a vacuum. One only has to look at Ukraine, Syria and the middle east to appreciate the implications of it.

Some analysts worry that the arrival of hundreds of thousands of refugees on Europe's shores — the largest share of them Muslims fleeing war and violence in Syria, Afghanistan and Iraq — could breathe new life into far-right movements, not only in the former East Germany but also elsewhere in Europe, particularly on its less prosperous eastern fringes.

Migrant crisis playing into the hands of Germany's extremists

[karl]

""Geert Wilders is popular, because he is not diplomatic, not humble, direct, tough, confronting, uses street language, the language of the people, opposed Muslim migration to the Netherlands, is anti-Islam, rightwing populist, clearly nationalistic in his patriotism. He is also popular because he turned himself against the political establishment in the Hague (the Dutch Washington DC), against the political elite, against Brussels and the EU. He has strong ties with the hard right or far right of the USA and Israel. And in the same time build a coaltion with Flemish (Belgian), French and Austrian rightwing populist and nationalist parties.""


Pieter

These are some of the attributes I do admire Geert Wilders for. He is not a yes man, but has a tendency to forget the attributes of diplomacy. For people are not wild horses to drive to the water {of knowledge} but people that need to know with direction through his leadership.

Mr. Wilders is not always correct, but then he is not always wrong, some where is the truth and that should prevail.

Simply wish he would settle down a bit and learn how to lead others in a more settled manner.

Karl

[kaima]

Sometimes I think this should include "The extremes of America".



Congress planning to ban 'pay for patriotism' promotions
By [e-mail] (Vincent Frank) | Last updated 10/1/15

The United States Congress is in the process of banning the entire "pay for patriotism" relationships professional sports teams had with the Department of Defense from 2011 to 2014. This is in line with a story that had legs earlier this year and is now starting to pick up some steam.

If you have followed the story closely, you know that the DOD paid out $5.4 million to NFL teams during that four-year span. These payments were made by the government as a way for teams to "salute" U.S. troops at the expense of taxpayer money. This backdoor deal between the military and NFL teams was not known to fans who saw the service members and the U.S. Military saluted on a consistent basis over that four-year span.

Now that we know teams were being financially rewarded for paying homage to those protecting us abroad, the Congress has decided to act.

The legislation, which would ban the Department of Defense from paying NFL teams for saluting troops prior to and during games, awaits final approval from the House and Senate. It's likely going to receive bipartisan support.

As a veteran of the Vietnam War, this issue hit home with one former presidential candidate. Back in May, John McCain had this to say about the contracts:

“Along with sports fans across America, I was appalled to learn last month that many of the ceremonies honoring members of our armed services at NFL games are not actually being conducted out of a sense of patriotism, but for profit in the form of millions in taxpayer dollars going from the Department of Defense to wealthy NFL franchises."

And while the NFL has indicated that the legislation misleads the public into believing what the real relationship between the league and the military is, it's unlikely anyone outside of the league office isn't upset over taxpayer dollars going to NFL franchises as a way for the league itself to "support" the military.

In addition to the legislation, which is likely going to pass, a separate government report is asking that NFL teams donate the money they have received from the DOD to charity. While that likely won't impact the opinion of many who find this whole situation disturbing, it will allow us all to move on from this.

It's now time for professional sports teams to support the military under the guise of patriotism, not as a way to earn a few extra bucks. We should all be able to get behind that.

[pieter]

Oct 3, 2015 7:46:01 GMT -7 karl said:

""Geert Wilders is popular, because he is not diplomatic, not humble, direct, tough, confronting, uses street language, the language of the people, opposed Muslim migration to the Netherlands, is anti-Islam, rightwing populist, clearly nationalistic in his patriotism. He is also popular because he turned himself against the political establishment in the Hague (the Dutch Washington DC), against the political elite, against Brussels and the EU. He has strong ties with the hard right or far right of the USA and Israel. And in the same time build a coaltion with Flemish (Belgian), French and Austrian rightwing populist and nationalist parties.""


Pieter

These are some of the attributes I do admire Geert Wilders for. He is not a yes man, but has a tendency to forget the attributes of diplomacy. For people are not wild horses to drive to the water {of knowledge} but people that need to know with direction through his leadership.

Mr. Wilders is not always correct, but then he is not always wrong, some where is the truth and that should prevail.

Simply wish he would settle down a bit and learn how to lead others in a more settled manner.

Karl

Dear Karl,

I agree with you very much. I am the opposite of Geert Wilders myself, but from the perspective of Freedom and Democracy, in which I believe, I think it is good that his movement or party exists so that nationalists, rightwing populists, disappointed socialists and conservatives can vote for him. In interviewed him once as radio journalist, and think I know his mindset, core values and beliefs. I do believe that moderate and liberal Dutch people, people who believe in diplomacy, checks and balances, European cooperation, culture and art do not vote for him. He polarizes the Netherlands and he creates a home for people who in the past belonged to; (a) the group of non-voters, (b) the far right fringe, (c) Pim Fortuyn supporters who lost their leader after his assasination in May 2002 and whom party the LPF dissapeared, (d) the conservative nationalists who had no political home in the Netherlands (because there was no party for them), (e) and some christians who came over to Geert Wilders party from the CDA and the SGP. (ChristianUnion supporters are often more christian social and progressive in the subjects refugees, asulumseekers and migrants. They are compassionate towards and concerned about the situation of christians in Syria and other countries)

He will get votes from the working class mainly. And from unemployed people, and a minority of the Middle- and High classes. He attracts nationalists, people with far right views, people who dislike Muslims and Islam, and some ethnic groups that have conflicts or tensions with Muslim migrants, like some Christian migrants, Blacks who faced discrimination by Muslims, Dutch and migrant women who fear ultra-conservative Islam, Muslim rule and believe that Islam is anti-emancipation and female unfriendly.

Cheers,
Pieter

[pieter]

The political life and ideas of Geert Wilders



In 1997, Wilders was elected for the People's Party for Freedom and Democracy (VVD) to the municipal council of Utrecht, the fourth largest city of the Netherlands. He lived in Kanaleneiland, a suburb with cheap social housing and high apartment blocks, which has a relatively high number of immigrants. While a city councilor, Wilders was mugged in his own neighbourhood; some have speculated that this may have catalysed his political transformation. He was not rewarded for his time on the municipal council of Utrecht, for in the following elections he would score well below the national average in the University city.

A year later, he was elected to the Netherlands' national parliament, but his first four years in parliament drew little attention. However, his appointment in 2002 as a public spokesman for the VVD led Wilders to become more well known for his outspoken criticism of Islamic extremism. Tensions immediately developed within the party, as Wilders found himself to be to the right of most members, and challenged the party line in his public statements. He was expelled from the VVD parliamentary party, and in September 2004, Wilders left the VVD, having been a member since 1989, to form his own political party, Groep Wilders, later renamed the Party for Freedom. The crunch issue with the VVD party line was about his refusal to endorse the party's position that European Union accession negotiations must be started with Turkey.

These video's are from 2001 before Pim Fortuyn was murdered




The Party for Freedom's political platform often overlaps those of the assassinated Rotterdam politician Pim Fortuyn and his Pim Fortuyn List. After his death, Fortuyn's impact remained, as more and more politicians sought to gain political mileage by directly confronting topics such as a ban on immigration that were, from a politically correct point of view, considered unmentionable in the Netherlands until Fortuyn came on the scene and upended the Dutch tradition of consensus politics with an anti-immigration stance. Wilders would position himself to inherit Fortuyn's constituency. The Party for Freedom called for a €16 billion tax reduction, a far stricter policy toward recreational drug use, investing more in roads and other infrastructure, building nuclear power plants and including animal rights in the Dutch constitution. In the 2006 Dutch parliamentary election, their first parliamentary election, the Party for Freedom won 9 out of the 150 open seats.


A lot of ideas and statements of Pim Fortuyn were similar to that of Geert Wilders, but Wilders is more radical or extreme than Fortuyn


Election poster of the Pim Fortuyn List, a former Duch rightwing populist political party. A lot of LPF members and voters later joined Geert Wilders PVV or voted for the PVV.

European cooperation

Wilders worked with the French Front National's Marine Le Pen to try to form a new parliamentary group in the European Parliament. They first announced their collaboration during a joint press conference in November 2013, where Wilders vowed that "today is the beginning of the liberation from the European elite, the monster in Brussels". Wilders visited the Sweden Democrats party and spoke with the Austrian Freedom party's leader Heinz-Christian Strache to help bring about the alliance, even while rejecting Hungary's Jobbik and Germany's NPD because he wanted to exclude "right-wing extremist and racist" parties. Three days after the elections finished, Le Pen and Wilders presented another press conference, this time with Matteo Salvini of Italy's Northern League, Harald Vilimsky of Austria's Freedom party and Gerolf Annemans of Belgium's Flemish Interest party, to promise that the parliamentary group would be formed. Eventually, however, the effort failed because it could only unite parties from six EU member states, one fewer than is required by parliamentary rules. This was in part due to a refusal to include the Greek Golden Dawn or Poland's Congress of the New Right, and in part because parties like the Danish People's party and the True Finns refused to join.

In the March 2015 provincial elections, the Party for Freedom received 11.7% of the vote nationally, slipping slightly from the 12.4% of the vote it had gotten in the 2011 provincial elections.

Political views

Political principles

Wilders generally considers himself to be a right-wing liberal, with a specific mix of positions independent of the European political spectrum and particular to iconoclastic Dutch society. He has stated that "My allies are not Le Pen or Haider. ... We'll never join up with the fascists and Mussolinis of Italy. I'm very afraid of being linked with the wrong rightist fascist groups", saying instead his drive is issues such as freedom of expression and Dutch iconoclasm. Wilders views British Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher as his greatest political role model. People's Party for Freedom and Democracy figure Frits Bolkestein also heavily influenced his beliefs.


Wilders views British Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher as his greatest political role model

Wilders strongly opposes the Dutch political system in general. He believes that there is a ruling elite of parliamentarians who only care about their own personal careers and disregard the will of the people. He also blames the Dutch system of multi-party coalition governments for a lack of clear and effective policies. In his view, Dutch society advocates rule by consensus and cultural relativism, while he believes that this should change so as to "not tolerate the intolerant".

On foreign relations, Wilders has largely supported Israel and has criticized countries he perceives as enemies of Israel. Furthermore, he has made some proposals in the Dutch Parliament inspired by Israeli policies. For example, he supports implementing Israel's administrative detention in the Netherlands, a practice heavily criticized by human rights groups, which he calls "common sense".

Wilders often mentions Henk and Ingrid in his speeches, fictitious common Dutch subjects who he claims to work for. Henk and Ingrid represent the Average Joe in Dutch political parlance, as the "heart and backbone of Dutch society". They were compared to Joe the Plumber in Dutch media, although he is a real person. They live in a Vinex neighbourhood, have two school attending children, a median income and both work. They used to vote PvdA (Dutch Labour Party) but now vote PVV.

Furthermore, Wilders has revived the ancient idea of reuniting Flanders and the Netherlands.

Wilders published the version of his political manifesto called Klare Wijn ("Clear Wine") in March 2006. The program proposed ten key points to be implemented:

- Considerable reduction of taxes and state regulations.
- Replacement of the present Article 1 of the Dutch constitution, guaranteeing equality under the law, by a clause stating the cultural dominance of the Christian, Jewish and humanist traditions.
- Reduction of the influence of the European Union, which may no longer be expanded with new member states, especially Turkey; the European Parliament will be abolished. Dutch financial contributions to the European Union should be reduced by billions of euros.
- A five-year moratorium on the immigration of non-Western foreigners who intend to stay in the Netherlands. Foreign residents will no longer have the right to vote in municipal elections.
- A five-year moratorium on the founding of new mosques and Islamic schools; a permanent ban on preaching in any language other than Dutch. Foreign imams will not be allowed to preach. Radical mosques will be closed and radical Muslims will be expelled.
- Restoration of educational standards, with an emphasis on the educational value of the family.
- Introduction of binding referenda and elected mayors, chiefs of police and prime ministers.
- Introduction of minimum penalties, and higher maximum penalties; introduction of administrative detention for terrorist suspects. Street terrorism will be punished by boot camps and denaturalisation and deportation of immigrant offenders.
- Restoration of respect and better rewards for teachers, policemen, health care workers and military personnel.
- Instead of complicated reorganisation, a more accessible and humane health care system, especially for elderly citizens.

[pieter]

[karl]

Pieter

Excellent back ground material you have presented on both Geert Wilders and then on Pim Fortuyn. It is such a shame of the Murder of Mr. Fortuyn, for he was in the prime of his career with a great deal of work in front of him now un accomplished.

As the Americans would say: He layed it on the line.

Karl

[pieter]

[Eric]

Hate is popular.

[pieter]

Unfortunately it is Eric!

[JustJohn or JJ]

Oct 5, 2015 9:25:50 GMT -7 Eric said:

Hate is popular.

You're absolutely correct Eric. As you and I both witness the following hate situation that is currently unfolding.



Law firm labeled hate group leading Kim Davis' crusade





A photo of 'The epitome of evil'


LOUISVILLE, Ky. (AP) — Kim Davis' lawyer stood onstage in a Washington D.C. hotel and pointed to a photo on the screen. It showed 100,000 people packed into a Peruvian soccer stadium, Mat Staver told the crowd, all there to pray for the Kentucky clerk battling against gay marriage.

The crowd erupted.

It wasn't true.

Staver's firm, the Liberty Counsel, which revealed Davis' secret meeting with Pope Francis, has been accused by advocacy groups of peddling misrepresentations in the past. Yet it has become the main source of details about the controversial pope meeting.

Online sleuths quickly debunked the Peru story Staver told at the Values Voter Summit, a conference for the conservative Family Research Council. The photo was from a year-old gathering unrelated to Davis, who spent five days in jail for defying a court order and refusing to license gay marriages. Staver could provide no evidence of a massive Davis rally. On Monday, he called it a mistake and blamed miscommunication with the Peruvian authorities who gave him the photo.

The next day, the firm dropped a bombshell. It said Pope Francis, on his celebrated visit to America, secretly met with Davis. The pope hugged her, thanked her for her courage and told her to "stay strong," Liberty Counsel said. The Vatican on Friday said the pope had a brief meeting with Davis that should not be seen as support for her stance.

Many on the religious right hail the Florida-based Liberty Counsel, which bills itself as a non-profit committed to "restoring the culture by advancing religious freedom, the sanctity of human life and the family."

"They're willing to stand up for our rights under the Constitution, they're not backing down," said Nick Williams, a probate judge in Alabama who has also pledged never to issue a marriage licenses to a same-sex couple and sought guidance from the Liberty Counsel. Williams compared the federal court system to the tyrannical kings in the Bible: "I'm glad we have a law firm willing to stand up to the kings of our time."

But critics watched in exasperation as the organization rocketed to national celebrity alongside Davis.

"A group that regularly portrays gay people as perverse, diseased pedophiles putting Western civilization at risk are way, way over the line." Mark Potok,, a senior fellow at the Southern Poverty Law Center

The Southern Poverty Law Center lists the Liberty Counsel as an anti-gay hate groups for spreading false information.

"A group that regularly portrays gay people as perverse, diseased pedophiles putting Western civilization at risk are way, way over the line," said Mark Potok, a senior fellow at the center.

The Liberty Counsel has connected homosexuality to higher rates of promiscuity and incest, Potok said, despite scientific evidence to the contrary. The firm opposes laws banning hate crimes and supports discredited conversion therapies that purport to turn homosexuals into heterosexuals. Staver once declared that the Boy Scouts would become a "playground for pedophiles" once it allowed gay troop leaders.

Staver, his hair bright white and his ties usually red, contends his quotes were taken out of context and he has legal arguments for the rest: hate crime laws infringe on free speech, he believes, and gay conversion therapies should be available to those who want them because he believes in "personal autonomy."

"It is irresponsible and reckless to call someone a hate group because you disagree with them," he said.

He added that he can't be considered a hater because he loves all of God's creation.

Williams also came to his defense: the Bible warned that Christians would be persecuted for standing strong for their faith, he noted.

"Jesus told us we would be hated for his name," he said. "For standing for what we stand for, people will hate us. It happened to the disciples, but it's also happening today."

Staver grew up in Florida. He told The Associated Press in a phone interview that his father was an abusive alcoholic who his Catholic mother divorced when he was young. She worked three jobs and raised him alone, he said, and he went through the motions of Catholicism until an evangelical pastor saved him from sin as a young man.

He became a pastor himself in Kentucky, though he shied away from social issues until he saw a film in 1982 about abortion. He resolved to go to law school to fight for traditional family values. He graduated from the University of Kentucky's law school, moved back to Florida with his wife, Anita, and they started the Liberty Counsel in 1989.

For years they dabbled in causes against abortion, the "War on Christmas" and other hot-button topics in the American culture wars.

In 2000, the firm threatened to sue a Florida library that offered a "Hogwarts School of Witchcraft and Wizardry" certificate to kids who read the Harry Potter book series. Five years later, they sent letters complaining that a Wisconsin elementary school put on a decades-old play called "The Little Christmas Tree," about a lonely pine searching for a family, which sets a song to the tune of "Silent Night" but does not mention Jesus.

Tony Perkins, president of the Family Research Council, has called Staver a courageous legal scholar.

Civil liberties advocates disagree.
"There is an enormous amount of bluster amid his legal arguments," said Barry Lynn, a minister and executive director of Americans United for Separation of Church and State, who has debated Staver on religious freedom issues. "It looks to me like he's making claims that will get his clients great publicity, but not necessarily get them victories."

Staver stands firm on his contributions to American jurisprudence. His firm has been involved in 60 same-sex marriage cases. It has 10 full-time attorneys, and dozens more across the country willing to work for free to promote the cause. In 2013, the firm hauled in more than $4 million, according to tax returns.

As Davis defied a series of federal court orders and was sent to jail, Staver cast her as a heroine called into battle by God. He compared her actions to Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. and Abraham Lincoln. She received 20,000 pieces of mail in jail, he said.

"I've lost the ability to be surprised at how easy it is to become the next Joan of Arc," said Lynn. "When you make heroes out of people who refuse to accept the rule of law and who fail to acknowledge the dignity of other human beings, you are on a very dangerous path."

Staver said the meeting with the pope validates his arguments about Davis' rights to conscientious objection. He rejects even the suggestion he might wake up one day and discover himself on the wrong side of history.

Last week, he showed the crowd at the Values Voter Summit the photo of the imaginary Peruvian prayer rally and declared its significance in the battle against Christian oppression.

"That, my friends, is happening around the world," he said. "When one person stands it has an impact and Kim Davis will continue to stand for her lord and savior Jesus Christ."

[karl]

Oct 3, 2015 14:47:30 GMT -7 pieter said:

There are always two sides to the Roman coin and both sides are correct, just a different view. I think though, one should listion to the message that Mr. Geert Wilders is proposing, although radical as usual, but still, very much laden with truth.

It is of course, wrong to return send all refugees back to where ever {who would pay for that is a question} as a message to the arrangers that arranged for payment, the travel of these refugees in the first place, to shut down that business. The problem with his proposal in that regard is: Pay was prepaid to those respective groups and so they have not lost any thing, for except perhaps in time, new customers of their people export business.

The other point Mr. Wilders proposed is: These large quantities of refugees dumping on our respective soil, not just maybe, but will reduce the standart of living each of us has worked for. And until these various refugees begin working, they are not paying taxes that we pay to support them and the economic life boat we have built.

The good points not covered by Mr. Wilders though, is the economic advantage to a need these people will create by their large numbers. The advantage will be the needs to be met for: new housing construction/increase in social services with creation of additional need for new hires in specialist/taxes paid through consumption of all things of life needs/technical trained individuals discovered through the processes of screening and back ground disclosures.

Commensurately, we have new blood in workers for our various industries both in The Netherlands and Germany. Our world is of and for people, it takes people to fill the needs of people, and this for the most part has been left out of the message Mr. Wilders is providing.

None the less though, his warning needs be not ignored, but then also, not overly heavy handed. There is a midway of what is right, and what is not correct, and that is a problem.

Karl