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Post by pieter on Jul 17, 2022 16:15:14 GMT -7
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Post by pieter on Jul 17, 2022 16:16:16 GMT -7
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Post by pieter on Jul 17, 2022 16:17:49 GMT -7
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Post by pieter on Jul 17, 2022 16:18:48 GMT -7
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Post by pieter on Jul 17, 2022 16:25:24 GMT -7
Folks,|
For some reason having known the art world, the street, the lesser side of society (psychiatry, homeless people, drugs addicts) shame, weakness, self hatred and self-destructive behaviour drags people to the gutter in many nations. These video's show the psychology and psychiatric reasons of these self hatred, border line illnesses, shame and destructive life circles. Interesting video's.
Cheers, Pieter
P.S.- I worked in a nursing home, hospital and local/regional media. Like the police, fire fighters and social councillors and psychiatricians I know these people who are standing on the edge of a Canyon or Ravine.
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Post by karl on Jul 17, 2022 17:01:27 GMT -7
Pieter
What you have described in the body of these videos that make up your presentation is a hidden closet of secrets society possibly tries to hide. In the manner of empathic understanding could be dangerous a person with sensitivities and border line such conditions as described. It would be as supposed, the entity of," what we believe, we are".
But then, my self am not a Psychiatrist.
Karl
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Post by pieter on Jul 18, 2022 13:22:07 GMT -7
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Post by pieter on Jul 18, 2022 13:27:02 GMT -7
Live discussion with Dr. Dawn Elise Snipes on coping with self-hatred. Dr. Snipes provides general relationship advice and discusses what boundaries in relationships are, problems if you don't have boundaries in relationships and steps to take to improve boundaries.
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Post by pieter on Jul 18, 2022 13:29:33 GMT -7
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Post by pieter on Jul 18, 2022 13:39:11 GMT -7
Many of us are walking around with an enormous secret burden: we deeply hate ourselves. That makes us very suspicious of anyone who likes us - and prone to staying in unfortunate romantic and professional situations that offer us far less than we deserve. We need to learn the art of becoming a better friend to ourselves.
Suicide statistics say something horrifying about our societies. But the numbers on violent self-hatred from which one on four of us are estimated to suffer, say some arguably even worse. If we saw a stranger being treated the way many of us treat ourselves, we wouldn't wait to call it wanton cruelty.
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Post by Jaga on Jul 18, 2022 21:48:28 GMT -7
I think majority of people feel that they are not good enough in something. We also say "sorry" too much. In the US they just started the suicide line 988. I think this is a good idea, we need less people killing themselves and people around them and more people being integrated in the society
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Post by pieter on Jul 20, 2022 0:14:04 GMT -7
Jaga,
You are right. In Europe as in the USA selfhatred, suicide and murder of others is a problem. All these incidents in which often men, but also mothers kill themselves and their children/families.
A recent story in the Netherlands just a few days ago;
The soldier in custody for stabbing a baby to death in Rotterdam’s Charlois district on Sunday is the baby’s father. Baby Emily was not yet six months old, the baby’s grandmother and suspect Ruud S.’s mother said to the newspaper AD. “Our son has had psychological problems for some time,” she said.
The incident happened in a home above hairdresser Barth on Wolphaertsbocht at around 5:00 p.m. on Sunday. Neighbors are still in shock.
Robino rushed the baby with her mother and grandmother to the hospital, but it was too late. He saw the mother and grandmother screaming for help from his balcony. “The grandmother held the girl to her chest. The mother stood next to her and screamed. They tried to stop cars because they needed help,” he said to RTL Nieuws.
He didn’t think twice. He ran downstairs and started his car. “The grandmother and child sat next to me, in the front. The mother sat in the back,” he said to the broadcaster. “I drove through the city like crazy. It felt like I was in a movie. I couldn’t hear the baby anymore.”
Robino had no idea what exactly was going on during the car ride. “Until about five minutes later, we arrived at the Ikazia Hospital, and doctors took the baby. They couldn’t save the girl. I think she had already died when I drove her to the hospital.”
Neighbor Sasha also witnessed the tragedy from afar. “I was cooking when I heard screams from the mother and grandmother, right in front of my apartment. ‘My baby, my baby,’ it sounded. Horrible, the screams went through my marrow,” she said to RTL. “The sun is shining, but I can’t enjoy the summer anymore. It is terrible to witness such a horrible thing.”
The neighbors also said that the 22-year-old soldier arrested a short time later was the baby girl’s father. According to Hart van Nederland, the soldier worked in IT for the Dutch Armed Forces, and he had been home on sick leave for a few months.
The Koninklijke Marechaussee, a policing force that works as part of the Dutch military, is handling the investigation because the suspect is a soldier. The Marechaussee refused to comment on the case in the interest of the investigation.
Comment Pieter: Killing your own child is not only murder but also an extreme form of self hatred.
Pieter
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Post by Jaga on Jul 20, 2022 18:33:45 GMT -7
Pieter, this is terrible to kill your own baby. Still, I do not necessarily think that such situations did not happen in the past. They did, it is just that the rumors were not spreading that fast. We think people die of suicide now, but when I look at the biographies of many important people - they had mother, father or grandpa who also committed suicide or was confined to the asylum. So, these are not completely new situations. People have much easier way to get to the mass weapons, so in this aspect it is easier to kill several people during just one ride, who did not expect it.
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Post by karl on Jul 20, 2022 20:30:38 GMT -7
Pieter
The human mind holds its own secrets with the complexity that is gradually being uncovered through research and careful record keeping of such events as you have out lined. For as yes, some of these criminal events' are committed by those individuals with recognized psychological issues. Fore as this is a recognized situation, no matter the reason or cause, the act is still committed and the dead are still dead. With this there is no responsibility to bear witness.
Except for a very few cases, the matter of personal responsibility is evaded.
Karl
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Post by pieter on Jul 22, 2022 10:59:50 GMT -7
Furious neigbours wanted to attack the murderer in Rotterdam. You see that the police woman is emotional, they have to protect the murder suspect. The Dutch word Kanker (cancer) is used a lot and is the same as the American/British f*** this and f*** that. You cancer idiot and etc. And the swear word Gay (Homo), often used by less educated people.A furious bystander says; "He cut her throat, that is not normal man."
A Dutch blond woman says, he must have had a psychosis, You can't do such a thing, this unheard of. Another mother with little children is confused and in skock. I have little children myself, you do not do such a thing. The blond woman says that the soldier is a Marine Corps member, but I haven't heard others say that. So if that is true I do not know. Some people are unstable and have mental and psychiatric issues, and they are a danger for others and themselves (due to suicidal tendencies). Often Homoside is followed by Suidice. I do believe that Jaga is right and that these mental instabilites, murders, child murders and suicides are from all times and are part of the dark side of humanity.
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