Mysterious Kuliczkowski

[joe]

Hallo,

I am trying - without a great deal of success - to obtain some information about my GGF John Kuliczkowski. The only record I have about him is his name recorded on the listed certificates.

Birth certificate of son Joseph, born 20th July 1857. at St George's East Middlesex ( London) recorded as father.

Marriage certificate - dated 5th December 1869 - of daughter Margaret aged 19, at Bethnal Green London, recorded as father.

The mother of Joseph and Margaret is Christiana Nicholson - believed to be scottish.

GGF JK'S death certificate dated 18th December 1869 - yes 13 days after his daughter's wedding - aged 65 at Bethnal Green London. His occupation Shoe Maker. Therefore dob 1804

I have searched all the UK census returns from 1841 to 1871, also records for marriage without success.

I recall, from my early years, hearing my GGF was required to leave Poland ' in a hurry ' owing to some 'political' situation.

Recently I have become aware of the November Revolt in Warsaw November 1830, and wondered if there could be a connection. At that time he would have been 26 years of age and, could have been politicaly active. If truth were known, possibly something less dramatic caused him to leave his home.

I would appreciate any suggestion's or direction.

Thank you. Joe

[rdywenur]

Hi Joe, Where are you in the UK. I am wondering if you might have a better chance to find something since you said your GGF was a shoemaker. This maybe something to follow up with. If you do a Google there is a shoemaker .org site. Maybe you can contact them.

[joe]

Thank you for your advice, I will give it a go.

I am based in Essex.

P.S. Thanks for the greeting - super.

Joe

[joe]

Hi It's me again - I had a senior moment - forgot to ask you,
can you explain the meaning of the name Kuliczkowski and the area where it may have originated ?

Joe.

[joe]

Hallo again. I searched Google, as you suggested, - well not all trillion inserts - and found our message on page five. Unfortunately I was unable to locate any other information that could help me in my quest.

I am still interestead to learn the meaning and origin of the name.

[nancy]

Hi Joe,

I thought I would look up your name for you in the best reference that I know: William Hoffman's book on Polish Surnames: Origins and Meanings.

It is not simple!

First of all, according to Hoffman, "the -owski suffix more often indicates relationship with a place, but can denote connections with people."

The first part of the name might be from "kula, meaning sphere, ball, bullet, crutch" or kulic sie, meaning "to crouch" The closest name I could find in Hoffman based on this meaning was Kulakowski.

Then there is the place name Kuligow or Kulikow. Closest name based on that meaning is Kulikowski.

I am not sure what the extra "cz" in the middle of the name might mean.

[joe]

Hallo again,

Recently I e-mailed Krakow' forwarding details as in my first post,
today I received a reply, unforunately I am unable to read Polish .
Is it possible some one would be kind and translate this for me ?

Regards Joe.

Szanowny Panie,



W odpowiedzi na Pana pismo, Archiwum Pañstwowe w Krakowie uprzejmie informuje i¿ przeprowadzenie kwerendy w sprawie Pana rodziny wymaga dodatkowych informacji. Archiwa pañstwowe w Polsce gromadz¹ materia³y archiwalne zgodnie z zasad¹ przynale¿noœci terytorialnej wobec czego prosimy o wyjaœnienie w jaki sposób Pana przodkowie, w tym Jan Kuliczkowski by³ zwi¹zany z Krakowem, Galicj¹.

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Informujemy tak¿e, i¿ dane o rozmieszczeniu akt metrykalnych znajduj¹cych siê w zasobie archiwów w ca³ej Polsce dostêpne s¹ w bazie danych PRADZIAD na stronie internetowej www.archiwa.gov.pl (równie¿ w wersji anglojêzycznej).



Archiwum Pañstwowe w Krakowie

Ma³gorzata Klimas

[joe]

Hallo again, I have obtained this part translation, would someone please help to finalise it.
Joe.

Dear sir , In answer to Yours writing , Cartulary The State on Krakowie kindly reports that of carrying out kwerendy toward Yours bears necessitates subsidiary message. State archives on Poland collection stock records with respect to tenet belongings territorially vis-a-vis czego supplicates of explanation which way Yours ascendants , therein Jan Kuliczkowski was connected with Krakowem Galicj¹. To want prospector genealogical supplicates item of listed scrupulous message of prospector person tj. spot its birth , matrimonies. Cartulary The State on Krakowie kindly reports , that possesses on swoim affluently files metrics ex terrain kilkudziesiêciu krakowskich as well podkrakowskich sale sheet. Odnalezienie on those ( predominantly niezindeksowanych volume aktu birth , matrimonies , ex listed spot , on that productive yourselves or flat prospector person , is not on the cards. Too reports , that state archives on Poland not possessive ¿adnych summary index until warehousing filing , wherefore znalezienie message by virtue of surnames persons , is not on the cards. Reports item , that data of disposal act metrykalnych znajduj¹cych yourselves on affluently records on whole Poland accession are not on pussy in question GREAT-GRANDFATHER aside internetowej http:/www.archiwa.gov.pl ( so on version anglojêzycznej ). Cartulary The State on Krakowie

[joe]

There is the possibilty my GGF birth place was in Jazlowiec.

I know there are a number of churches in the area, can anyone suggest how I can make contact to obtain information about the family.

Joe

[jimpres]

Joe,

Is it the Jazlowiec that is now in the Ukraine? The church there is Sw Michala.

Jim