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Post by Jaga on Apr 10, 2023 5:35:08 GMT -7
famus pianist, Liberace had Polish roots through his mother and Italian by his father. he was a famous pianist and the showman. He also knew how to do business.
Here is his famous boogie-woogie:
1969 Liberace Show Boogie Woogie
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Post by karl on Apr 10, 2023 11:14:01 GMT -7
Jaga
Gollies do I remember Mr. Liberace, he was so gifted and skilled with the piano as to be without parallel. He was not only a showman, and entertainer, but must have spent untold hours practicing and trade off of any free time to concentrate on his music.
Until this time of your research, I was unaware of his family back ground, Polish and Italian, How about that!
Karl
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Post by pieter on Apr 10, 2023 17:22:56 GMT -7
Dear Jaga,
Maybe Liberace is to much Glitter & Glamour, Kitsch & Camp, Extravaganza and too American for me as a sober European. I do understand why American’s liked him.
It is to excentric, to much Bling Bling for me, but of course people are entitled to be fond of him or love him like they like Little Richard, Elvis, Dolly Parton, Marylin Monroe, Madonna, Lady Gaga and etc. Sometimes things can be too American for a European 😉. Liberace is also a little bit to Gay for me. There is nothing wrong with being Gay, I have Gay and Lesbian friends next to the majority of my straight friends and family, but it can also be to much Camp Gay and queer. Liberace is a little bit too Gay and Camp for me.  
He was the Gary Glitter of the USA.Cheers,
Pieter
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Post by pieter on Apr 10, 2023 17:24:01 GMT -7
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Post by JustJohn or JJ on Apr 11, 2023 7:13:04 GMT -7
Pieter, In agree with you.
(but it can also be to much Camp Gay and queer. Liberace is a little bit too Gay and Camp for me.)
I, like many of my friends, do not have a problem with gays as they are born this way. But to keep profiling and shoving your gaynes at us is too much.
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Post by Jaga on Apr 11, 2023 20:15:40 GMT -7
Hello Karl, I am really so happy to see you. Liberace was really a very gifted pianist. He also was a great entertainer. He was not really known in Poland that much. I remember that I saw him on the cover of magazine: "America" that was distributed in Poland by US government as a promotional medium. When I saw him in his extravagant cloths it was very strange to me. Frankly, almost disgusting. This is how I first learned about his Polish and Italian roots.
I agree with Pieter and John that he was extravagant and he was very gay.... but still he was a good man and had an extreme talent.
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Post by Jaga on Apr 11, 2023 20:18:10 GMT -7
Last weekend we just watched the movie about Liberace: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Behind_the_Candelabrait was a very good movie bringing all sites of Liberace and with great actors: Michael Douglas and Matt Demon. Douglas is a bit creepy and Matt Demon can play a role of an attractive gay man quite well. |
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Post by karl on Apr 12, 2023 10:25:33 GMT -7
Jaga
I must admit my self was not favourable to the costoms Mr. Liberace wore as only to a few occasions to watch him on the Television. With him being gay is not to my self as detraction, for it was his skill on the piano that my interest was of his music. My self am a galaxy way from being gay, for those things I simply fail to understand for we as we are born as what we are. I simply take people as they are not what they pretend.
But I do understand the feelings of others for we are all people and that would seem most important.
Karl
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Post by kaima on Apr 13, 2023 22:50:13 GMT -7
It seems American conservatives hearken back to the US of the 1950's as the ideal age of the America they wish we had today, or could return to.
Osama Bin Laden''s teacher was in the USA around 1949 and early 50's, and it was our decadence at that time that he taught is followers was a terrible, immoral life they should resist and oppose.
It was in the 1950's that Liberace made it big on national television in America and it was a given in our conservative Catholic family and presumably the US in general, that he was gay. Yes, it remained a question then, as obvious as it is today. It seemed to be an attitude of "OK, he is so, and he is terribly flamboyant, but that is part of human presentation, so let it be and let us get on with enjoying his talents, both musical and entertaining.
Those were also the days when adults never said a woman was "pregnant". The word was not used in polite company.
There were some good things about those days, there are good things about these days. Everyone I know is hoping that the upcoming generations have many good days!
Kai
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Post by karl on Apr 14, 2023 10:16:36 GMT -7
It seems American conservatives hearken back to the US of the 1950's as the ideal age of the America they wish we had today, or could return to. Osama Bin Laden''s teacher was in the USA around 1949 and early 50's, and it was our decadence at that time that he taught is followers was a terrible, immoral life they should resist and oppose. It was in the 1950's that Liberace made it big on national television in America and it was a given in our conservative Catholic family and presumably the US in general, that he was gay. Yes, it remained a question then, as obvious as it is today. It seemed to be an attitude of "OK, he is so, and he is terribly flamboyant, but that is part of human presentation, so let it be and let us get on with enjoying his talents, both musical and entertaining. Those were also the days when adults never said a woman was "pregnant". The word was not used in polite company. There were some good things about those days, there are good things about these days. Everyone I know is hoping that the upcoming generations have many good days! Kai Kai My reason of reply was to commend upon your very thoughtful reply, with this, your informative description of early life of the American 50s. Karl |
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