Lots of heavy rains in Poland, Scandinavia and Slovenia

[Jaga]

Hello guys,

I was so lucky to go with the family to the Baltic Cruise in July. The weather is very bad in this part of Europe right now. The tourists are leaving Baltic or they stay in the hotels. There were also heavy rains in Slovenia with flooded countryside and people.

See below:

[Jaga]

Here is a report from Scandinavia. The reports are saying that there are more drastic weather events than in the past due to global warming:

www.dw.com/en/storm-hans-batters-scandinavia/a-66477645

Storm 'Hans' batters Scandinavia
08/09/2023August 9, 2023
Severe weather in Scandinavia has knocked out power lines, flooded villages and brought public transport to a standstill in the worst-affected areas.
static.dw.com/image/66477600_605.webp

[karl]

Jaga

Mother nature is not always kind, for as with the North Sea, she is a mother to all when she is happy, for if not so happy, will demonstrate her anger to all without mercy.

Karl

[Jaga]

I was in these regions just two months ago, therefore it is sad. It does look that the weather is more extreme that before.
The mother nature with help of humans can be blamed for melting of the glaciers.
On the other hand mother nature should not be blamed on people and civilization encroaching forests thus affecting ecosystems, animals habitat and bringing fires to these newly build settlements in the forests, like it happened in California or Denver 1-2 years ago.

[karl]

Jaga

These storms are and have been terrible with the loss of life and destruction of property, perhaps myself may have sounded overly light with the terrible loss of life. It is just both Pieter and myself grew up with our winter storms usually beginning in October through the winter with the North Sea. For as Pieters home was on the North, North Sea Coast whilst mine was on the West Coast of the North Sea at Denmark, although this storm that has hit and is subject of your fine presentation is very much more intense than usual is quite common on the North Coast of Denmark especially around the area of Skagen. For there, it is very flat with long low beaches that enjoy trapping victim ships to be blown inland and become beach grounded. For then if not salvaged in short time, become broken up by heavy wave action and then become a hazard to surrounding sea life.

The following is some photos of these storms that find their way to Denmark:

www.bing.com/images/search?q=october+storms+in+denmark&qpvt=october+storms+in+denmark&form=IQFRML&first=1

Karl

[Jaga]

Hello Karl,

thank you for your post. Yes, I can imagine the storms in lowlands of Denmark. We were so lucky in July that we just had short rains in Kopenhagen and a lot of sun. Right now there is a lot of rains in Greece and we had an earthquake in Marocco that makes it difficult for these people. In Texas where Ela went is over 100 F, but here in Idaho the weather is beautiful.

Aug 11, 2023 16:37:40 GMT -7 karl said:

Jaga

These storms are and have been terrible with the loss of life and destruction of property, perhaps myself may have sounded overly light with the terrible loss of life. It is just both Pieter and myself grew up with our winter storms usually beginning in October through the winter with the North Sea. For as Pieters home was on the North, North Sea Coast whilst mine was on the West Coast of the North Sea at Denmark, although this storm that has hit and is subject of your fine presentation is very much more intense than usual is quite common on the North Coast of Denmark especially around the area of Skagen. For there, it is very flat with long low beaches that enjoy trapping victim ships to be blown inland and become beach grounded. For then if not salvaged in short time, become broken up by heavy wave action and then become a hazard to surrounding sea life.

The following is some photos of these storms that find their way to Denmark:

www.bing.com/images/search?q=october+storms+in+denmark&qpvt=october+storms+in+denmark&form=IQFRML&first=1

Karl

[pieter]

Aug 10, 2023 9:15:43 GMT -7 karl said:

Jaga

Mother nature is not always kind, for as with the North Sea, she is a mother to all when she is happy, for if not so happy, will demonstrate her anger to all without mercy.

Karl

Karl,

You are absolutely right Karl. The North Sea gave and took through the centuries. It gave shipping routes, sailing opportunities, great windsurf and Kite Surf water, fishing grounds, but over the centuries it swallowed whole ships, swallowed coastal towns and villages, and during Storm surges took the lives of thousands of people. I have seen the beautiful, sunny side and it's angry side.



This summer in the evening I saw a large Dutch coast guard searching the sea with search lights. The clothes, towel, watch, and cell phone of a man who went swimming were found, but the man was gone and never returned. People saw him swimming in the sea before he went missing. For several days they searched for him and never found him. It could be that in the autumn on one of the Dutch, Belgian, French and even Northern German beaches or a Danish beach the body of an unknown man will was ashore. That might be the body of the man that went missing between Vlissingen and Dishoek at the Walcheren Penisula in Zeeland. Every year people drown, experienced and inexperienced people.

A BBC story about the Dutch North Sea Coast


Rescuers were confronted with abnormal sea conditions that claimed the lives of the five young men

It was supposed to be a celebratory bodysurf, a chance to train together again the night before the official start of the summer season. But a month ago in The Hague, five gregarious, athletic young surfers lost their lives in freak sea conditions, on their first return to the water since coronavirus restrictions had forced them apart.

Joost, Sander, Pim, Max and Mathijs fell victim to a thick wall of metres-high foam and rough seas. The bodies of four were recovered within 24 hours.

Then last week I watched as firefighters extended a ladder to recover 23-year-old Mathijs's body from boulders beneath the lighthouse at the end of Scheveningen pier.


Gazing at the waves crashing on to the rocks, I shared the sense of disbelief that still perforates this coastal community.

Why did they die?

The five were all experienced surfers and coaches. Their surf school said they had classes scheduled for the whole week and a final blog posted a few hours before their deaths showed they were itching to hit the waves.

The group had discussed the foam and considered going in at another point, another surfer who survived told friends.



But both wind and current had changed rapidly. An unusually strong north-northeasterly and a suffocating avalanche of algae foam proved a treacherous combination.

Suddenly, these experienced, responsible young surfers trained to save others were unable to save themselves.

"You just hope the moment of frantic panic was over fast," Joost's childhood friend Timo van de Ven told me. He still struggles to accept they won't be coming back.


Dutch sea rescue service KNRM said the strong wind and current made their operation "a tricky job".

For more on this story read this link: www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-52920048


Cheers,
Pieter

[pieter]

[pieter]

[pieter]

24 aug 2023 #storm #poland #hail
Severe Weather Strikes Southern Poland

It was a tumultuous night in southern Poland as storms, hail, and flooding wreaked havoc across the region. Firefighters were stretched thin, responding to numerous emergencies, with Silesia bearing the brunt, tallying over 300 incident reports.

Throughout the night from Tuesday to Wednesday, firefighters were on the front lines, addressing the aftermath of a powerful hurricane that swept through Bielsko-Biała and the surrounding areas late in the evening. The destructive forces of nature left in their wake fallen trees, widespread flooding, and damaged roofs.

The majority of incidents unfolded in Bielsko-Biala and the neighboring commune of Jasenica. Firefighters worked tirelessly to clear fallen trees, repair damaged roofs, and mend broken power lines. In one particularly dramatic instance on Vesola Street, the fierce winds propelled a shattered roof several hundred meters away.