Extreme settlers & Kushner want to chase Palestinians away

[Jaga]

Here is the interview with Israel's extreme settler movement. They sound like Nazi before WW II.



CNN's Clarissa Ward reports from the West Bank where the Jewish settler movement is seeking a new goal in the wake of the October 7th attack by Hamas

[pieter]

Jaga,

The British-American television journalist Clarissa Ward, the chief international correspondent for CNN is one of my favorite Western journalist. She is excellent and has a lot of experience as war correspondent. She is an example of Audi alteram partem (or audiatur et altera pars) the Latin phrase meaning "listen to the other side", or "let the other side be heard as well". She covered both the Palestinian and Israeli sides. These Settlers are the core of the Israeli Far Right/Extreme right and Revisionist Zionism, a form of Zionism characterized by territorial maximalism. Revisionist Zionism promoted expansionism and the establishment of a Jewish majority on both sides of the Jordan River. A lot of these settlers are Kahanist people, followers of the Etremist American Israeli rabbi Meir David HaKohen Kahane (August 1, 1932 – November 5, 1990) an American-born Israeli ordained Orthodox rabbi, writer, and ultra-nationalist politician who served one term in Israel's Knesset before being convicted of acts of terrorism. He founded the Israeli political party Kach. A cofounder of the Jewish Defense League (JDL), he espoused strong views against antisemitism.



Pieter

[pieter]

www.c-span.org/video/?150778-1/israeli-arab-relations#!

[pieter]

Meir Kahane



Meir David HaKohen Kahane (/kəˈhɑːnə/ kə-HAH-nə; Hebrew: רבי מאיר דוד הכהן כהנא; born Martin David Kahane; August 1, 1932 – November 5, 1990) was an American-born Israeli ordained Orthodox rabbi, writer, and ultra-nationalist politician who served one term in Israel's Knesset before being convicted of acts of terrorism. He founded the Extreme Right Israeli political party Kach. A cofounder of the Jewish Defense League (JDL), he espoused strong views against antisemitism.

According to his widow, he organized defense squads and patrols in Jewish neighborhoods, and demanded that the Soviet Union allow Refusenik to emigrate to Israel. He supported violence against those he regarded as enemies of the Jewish people, and called for immediate Jewish mass migration to Israel to avoid a potential "Holocaust" in the United States, popularizing the slogan Never Again through a book of the same name. He also popularized the slogan "For Every Jew a .22." He supported the restriction of Israel's democracy to its Jewish citizens, and endorsed the annexation of the West Bank and Gaza Strip.

In 1968, Kahane was one of the co-founders of the JDL (Jewish Defence Leage) in the United States. In 1971, he co-founded Kach ("Thus"), a new political party in Israel. That same year, he was convicted in New York for conspiracy to manufacture explosives and received a suspended sentence of five years. In Israel, he was convicted for plotting to blow up the Libyan embassy in Brussels (Belgium, Europe) in revenge for the massacre of 11 Israeli athletes at the 1972 Summer Olympics in Munich (Germany), receiving a suspended sentence and probation. In 1984, he became a member of the Knesset, when Kach gained its only-ever seat in parliamentary elections. Kahane was boycotted across the aisles of the Knesset, and would often speak in front of an empty chamber. The Israel Broadcasting Authority similarly avoided coverage of his activities. The Central Elections Committee tried to ban Kahane from running in the 1984 elections, but this ban was overturned by the Supreme Court because there was no law to support it. In response, the Knesset approved an ad hoc law that allowed for the banning of parties that are "racist" or "undemocratic". In 1988, despite polls showing Kach gaining popularity due in part to the ongoing First Intifada, Kach was banned from entering that year's elections.


Kach (Hebrew: כך, lit. 'Thus') was a radical Orthodox Jewish, religious Zionist political party in Israel, existing from 1971 to 1994. Founded by Rabbi Meir Kahane in 1971, based on his Jewish-Orthodox-nationalist ideology (subsequently dubbed Kahanism), the party earned a single seat in the Knesset in the 1984 election, after several electoral failures. However, it was barred from participating in the next election in 1988 under the revised Knesset Elections Law banning parties that incited racism. After Kahane's assassination in 1990, the party split, with Kahane Chai (כהנא חי‎, "Kahane Lives") breaking away from the main Kach faction.


The Party flag of the far right Kach party of rabbi Meir HaKohen Kahane

Kahane publicized his Kahanism ideology through published works, weekly articles, speeches, debates on college campuses and in synagogues throughout the United States, and appearances on various televised programs and radio shows. In Israel, he proposed enforcing Halakha as codified by Maimonides and hoped that Israel would eventually adopt Halakha as state law. Non-Jews wishing to dwell in Israel would have three options: remain as "resident strangers" with limited rights, leave Israel and receive compensation for their property, or be forcibly removed without compensation. While serving in the Knesset in the mid-1980s Kahane proposed numerous laws, none of which passed, to emphasize Judaism in public schools, reduce Israel's bureaucracy, forbid sexual relations between Jews and non-Jews, separate Jewish and Arab neighborhoods, and end cultural meetings between Jewish and Arab students. He went as far as to demand that non-Jews in Israel either become slaves or face deportation. Kahane was assassinated in a New York City hotel by an Egyptian-born U.S. citizen in November 1990. His legacy continues to influence militant and far-right political groups active today in Israel.

Ideology

Kahane argued that there was a glory in Jewish destiny, which came through the observance of the Torah and halakha (Jewish law). He observed, "Democracy and Judaism are not the same thing." Kahane was of the view a Jewish state and a Western democracy were incompatible, since Western democracy is religion-blind, and a Jewish state is religion-oriented by its very name. He feared non-Jewish citizens becoming a majority and voting against the Jewish character of the state: "The question is as follows: if the Arabs settle among us and make enough children to become a majority, will Israel continue to be a Jewish state? Do we have to accept that the Arab majority will decide?" He also said that "you cannot have Zionism and democracy at the same ... Western democracy has to be ruled out. For me, that's cut and dried: There's no question of setting up democracy in Israel, because democracy means equal rights for all, irrespective of racial or religious origins."

Kahane proposed an "exchange of populations" that would continue the Jewish exodus from Arab lands: "A total of some 750,000 Jews fled Arab lands since 1948. Surely it is time for Jews, worried over the huge growth of Arabs in Israel, to consider finishing the exchange of populations that began 35 years ago." Kahane proposed a $40,000 compensation plan for Arabs who would leave voluntarily, and forcible expulsion for those who "don't want to leave". He encouraged retaliatory violence against Arabs who attacked Jews: "I approve of anybody who commits such acts of violence. Really, I don't think that we can sit back and watch Arabs throwing rocks at buses whenever they feel like it. They must understand that a bomb thrown at a Jewish bus is going to mean a bomb thrown at an Arab bus." Kahana's thinking and logic was "an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth".

In some of his writings, Kahane argued that Israel should never start a war for territory but that if a war were launched against Israel, Biblical territory should be annexed. However, in an interview, he defined Israel's "minimal borders" as follows: "The southern boundary goes up to El Arish, which takes in all of northern Sinai, including Yamit. To the east, the frontier runs along the western part of the East Bank of the Jordan River, hence part of what is now Jordan. Eretz Yisrael ('Greater Israel') also includes part of Lebanon and certain parts of Syria, and part of Iraq, all the way to the Euphrates River." When critics suggested that following Kahane's plans would mean a perpetual war between Jews and Arabs, Kahane responded, "There will be a perpetual war. With or without Kahane."


Meir Kahana with Kach party members

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Jaga,

What I want to say very clearly over here is that Israel is not a Kahanist country, nor the Israeli president or prime minister are Kahanist. I do believe that a majority of Israeli’s is not Kahanist. Not the Secular Jews (whom Kahane criticized as Orthodox nationalist Jew), not Progressive Religious Jews (Called Liberal Jews in my country), nor many Modern Orthodox Jews and many anti-Zionist Ultra Orthodox Jews (the vast majority of Haredi Jews are opposed to Zionism) like the Hasidic groups Satmar, Dushinsky, Toldos Aharon, Toldos Avrohom Yitzchok, Mishkenos HoRoim, Spinka, Brisk, and a section of other Litvish Haredim).

Neturei Karta is often used by the Anti-Zionist Arab, Turkish and other Anti Zionist media. Neturei Karta(Aramaic: נָטוֹרֵי קַרְתָּא nāṭōrē qartāʾ, lit. 'Guardians of the City') is a fringe religious group of Haredi Jews that was founded in Jerusalem in 1938 after splitting off from Agudat Yisrael. It is an active opponent of Zionism and advocates a "peaceful dismantling" of the State of Israel under the belief that the Jewish people are strictly forbidden from re-establishing sovereignty in the Land of Israel until the arrival of the Messiah. To this end, the group's members believe that the existence of a Jewish state is a rebellion against God as it did not occur with divine intervention through the Messiah.

Other Orthodox Jewish movements, including some who oppose Zionism, have denounced the activities of the radical branch of Neturei Karta. According to The Guardian, "[e]ven among Haredi, or ultra-Orthodox circles, the Neturei Karta are regarded as a wild fringe". Neturei Karta is sometimes confused with Satmar, due to both being anti-Zionist; however, they are separate groups and have had disagreements.

Within Ottoman Palestine (that existed between 1516 and 1917) itself, the local Ashkenazi Haredi community of the Old Yishuv ( the Jewish communities of the region of Palestine during the Ottoman period ) was opposed to Zionism. As Zionist settlement was underway during the 19th and 20th centuries, they were alarmed by the influx of predominantly non-religious Jews who wished to establish a secular state in the Holy Land and threatened the peaceful relations the Orthodox community had enjoyed with their Arab neighbors until this point. The chief rabbi of the Ashkenazi community in Jerusalem, Rabbi Joseph Hayyim Sonnenfeld, often referred to the Zionists as "evil men and ruffians" and claimed that "Hell had entered the Land of Israel with Herzl." Sonnenfeld did not want the Orthodox Jewish community to become subject to secular Zionist authority.

Other Ultra Orthodox Jews and Modern Orthodox Jews are Zionist like Chabat, the influential (in Israel) Religious Zionist Ultra Orthodox Shas party and Gush Emunim (Hebrew: גּוּשׁ אֱמוּנִים‎, lit. "Bloc of the Faithful") which was an Israeli ultranationalist Orthodox Jewish right-wing fundamentalist activist movement committed to establishing Jewish settlements in the West Bank, Gaza Strip, and Golan Heights.

Present day off spring of Gush Emunim you could call Otzma Yehudit (Jewish Power) of the extreme right Israeli Minister of National Security, Itamar Ben-Gvir, and the Religious Zionist Party of Bezalel Smotrich, the Israeli far right Minister of Finance since 2022.

The present Israeli government is an Oxymoron and contradiction in terminis (terms) (Latin for "contradiction in terms"), because in the present Netanyahu ‘War Cabinet’ the political opponents and opposites are present; the moderate opposition leader
Benny Gantz (of the moderate center right National Unity or State Camp (Hebrew: המחנה הממלכתי, romanized: HaMahane HaMamlakhti) serves in this War Cabinet next to the corrupt Likud Hawk prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu and the Israeli Fascists Itamar Ben-Gvir and Bezalel Smotrich.

Five members of the moderate opposition party National Unity (Benny Gantz, Gadi Eizenkot, Gideon Sa'ar, Hili Tropper and Yifat Shasha-Biton) joined the Thirty-seventh government of Israel as ministers without portfolio in October 2023, following the outbreak of the Israel–Hamas war; Gantz and Eisenkot also joined the Israeli war cabinet. Sa'ar announced on 12 March 2024 that New Hope would leave the National Unity alliance, and again become an independent faction. The split was approved the next day.

Pieter

[Jaga]

Hello Pieter, whether they are Kahanists or not Kahanist - they are killing innocent civilians in thousands by hospital rides, bombing infrastructure and preventing food deliveries. There are thousands of tracks waiting with food but not allowed to enter,


+++The present Israeli government is an Oxymoron and contradiction in terminis (terms) (Latin for "contradiction in terms"), because in the present Netanyahu ‘War Cabinet’ the political opponents and opposites are present; the moderate opposition leader
Benny Gantz (of the moderate center right National Unity or State Camp (Hebrew: המחנה הממלכתי, romanized: HaMahane HaMamlakhti) serves in this War Cabinet next to the corrupt Likud Hawk prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu and the Israeli Fascists Itamar Ben-Gvir and Bezalel Smotrich.++++

[JustJohn or JJ]

Who is Kushner in your heading?