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Post by Jaga on Nov 27, 2005 23:30:14 GMT -7
According to the newly released data the amount of Poles who were attending weekly service in the church was decreasing from ~1980 - about 50% to 1993 ~about 43%, later it started increasing. It increased also after the death of John Paul II since more people came to the church to pray for him and... stay here.
So, at least for now there is no a danger that Poland will become secularized like Western Europe.
I guess, Polish church is becoming amerizanized since more people are going to the communion.
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Post by zooba on Nov 28, 2005 0:53:55 GMT -7
Jaga, what do you mean by "americanization" of Church? Do you think one day we'll sit in our cars outside churches or watching the mass on Tv while eating breakfast and scratching our heads?
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Post by Jaga on Nov 28, 2005 8:55:12 GMT -7
Jaga, what do you mean by "americanization" of Church? Do you think one day we'll sit in our cars outside churches or watching the mass on Tv while eating breakfast and scratching our heads? More people participate in the communion. In the church which they were showing I saw the numbers of the song which were going to be sing just like in the US. Do they still have sevices in the church in Polish? ;D just joking |
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Post by jimpres on Nov 28, 2005 9:13:33 GMT -7
Jaga,
Only if its a Polish church ; ))
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Post by franek80 on Nov 28, 2005 12:01:54 GMT -7
Jaga'
I side with you on this issue. In my home town, (BALTIMORE) We are down from three all Polish churches to one (HOLY ROSARY) The mass is still said in Polish. St Stanislaus closed down much to the regret of parishoners.. The property was sold for millions.We suspect foul play.. This church was built by Polish immigrants . My church (St Casimirs) 100% Polish was taken over by an Italian pastor. For Christmas they were allowed to sing but one Koleda.
There has been a vast movement to Holy Rosary, Yep the Polish Catholic Chuirches are soopn to be history
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Post by george on Nov 28, 2005 16:59:55 GMT -7
I was in Poland in 2002 and a strange thing happened to me in Church ( strange maybe only in my opinion ) I went to receive communion in my hands. the priest, said something to me in Polish and refused to give me communion in hand ( i don't understand polish ) I asked my Polish wife what he said and she told me he said " We don't do that here". I thought to myself, Wow! Vatican 2 must have whizzed by the heads for a good part of the Catholic church here. I thought JP11 was a at least a semi founder of Vatican 2, but evidently not in his homeland.
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Post by jimpres on Nov 28, 2005 17:31:03 GMT -7
George,
Every time I have gone to church in POland it reminds me of how it used to be.
No fancy stuff, just mass. Suits me fine. And the priest meets you at the back door to shake you
hand and say a few words.
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Post by zooba on Nov 29, 2005 1:34:37 GMT -7
Receiving the Communion in hand is a pretty new thing in Poland. It was accepted by some archbishops but not all. The general rule is that you can have It in hand although really few people do it this way. Whenever I'm abroad (I mean Europe) we are the only people in church who take the Communion in the old way.
Now there is also suggestion that modern instruments such as guitars should not be used during masses - it's a pity in my opinion. Moreover the texts of the songs are so outdated (Polish language not the message) that I hardly understand what I'm singing. Not metioning my children, who just refuse to sing.
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Post by george on Nov 29, 2005 17:00:11 GMT -7
Used to be in Latin which hardly anybody could understand. Used to be eating meat on a Friday meant an eternity in hell! Used to be you could only receive communion if you went to conffesion the day before. Used to be unbaptised infants went to someplace called limbo. I like the new way a whole lot better!
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