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Post by Jaga on Nov 25, 2005 12:21:03 GMT -7
There is a famous town in Easter Poland with beautiful renaissance market square and beautiful houses - with is called Padua of the North
I am talking about
ZAMOSC
it was originally established by Jan Zamoyski, great royal canzler
My question to you is - which ethnic minority group was living in this town and contributed to its amaizng beauty?
hint: no Jews, no Germans, no Russians
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Post by Jaga on Nov 25, 2005 12:23:48 GMT -7
Here you can see some images of these famous townhouses where these people (immigrants) lived: this picture was sent to me by my friend
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Post by nancy on Nov 25, 2005 12:33:44 GMT -7
jaga,
what is a canzler?
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Post by Jaga on Nov 25, 2005 12:48:57 GMT -7
chancellor, sometimes I am confused between German and English, Below is about the guy who by help of Italian architects built Zamosc www.britannica.com/eb/article-9078234Jan Zamoyski born March 19, 1542, Skokówka, Pol. died June 3, 1605, Zamosc Polish advisor to King Sigismund II Augustus and Stephen Báthory and later an opponent of Sigismund III Vasa. He was a major force in the royal politics of Poland throughout his life. Educated in France and Italy, he returned to Poland in 1565 and was appointed secretary to King Sigismund II. After Sigismund's death (1572), he became one of the best-liked leaders of the nobility. Opposing the magnates who wished to offer the throne to the Austrian Habsburgs, he supported the candidature of the French prince Henry and, after Henry's flight from Poland, supported the anti-Habsburg Stephen Báthory. One of the latter's closest collaborators, he was made chancellor in 1578 and grand hetman (commander in chief of the armed forces) in 1581. He soon became one of the richest Polish magnates. Zamoyski energetically helped Stephen Báthory in his efforts to strengthen the royal power. He also distinguished himself during the war of 1579–82 against Muscovy. After Stephen Báthory's death, Zamoyski opposed the Habsburg candidature of the archduke Maximilian (brother of the Holy Roman emperor Rudolf II) and contributed to the election of Sigismund III Vasa. When Maximilian tried to seize Kraków by force, Zamoyski routed his forces at Byczyna (Jan. 14, 1588) and took him prisoner. Yet from the very beginning of Sigismund III's reign Zamoyski passed to opposition. The King feared the hetman's power, and Zamoyski in turn treated the King as a pawn. Open conflict broke out during the Sejm (Diet) of 1592, when Zamoyski knew that Sigismund was plotting to cede the Polish crown to the Habsburgs in exchange for their support of his right to the Swedish throne. Zamoyski failed to dethrone Sigismund but won for himself a free hand in Moldavia. He installed a hospodar dependent on Poland in Moldavia and temporarily subjected Walachia to Poland. In 1600, during the war for Livonia, Zamoyski recaptured some strongholds from the Swedes. The rigours of the campaign, however, were too much for him, and he resigned the command in 1602.
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Post by Yanc on Nov 25, 2005 13:25:57 GMT -7
I know the answer. But I won't say. Let our foreigner members guess.
Yanc
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Post by nancy on Nov 25, 2005 13:27:51 GMT -7
I think Jaga has already given the answer - Italian
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Post by Yanc on Nov 25, 2005 13:52:05 GMT -7
Italian was architect. Minority specific to the city was Ormians, I believe. There are also traces of: Spains, Greeks, Turkeys (or Turkies? not sure , Germans, Scotts, German, Dutchmen, Englishmen, and even Persians. Yanc
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Post by Jaga on Nov 25, 2005 14:00:35 GMT -7
Nancy, yes, Ormians had their diaspora in Poland. Here we talk about Ormians - they also lived in Lvov area. We have a couple of famous artists of Ormian origin also, for instance the painter Axentowicz. Here is more about Ormian (Armeinian) history in Poland: galaxy.uci.agh.edu.pl/~vahe/armpol.htm
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Post by nancy on Nov 25, 2005 14:04:13 GMT -7
Thanks for the link - I was just about to ask about Ormians - I confess I am not familiar with this group. I googled the word, and the majority of results are in Polish.
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Post by nancy on Nov 25, 2005 14:05:10 GMT -7
OH!! You mean "Armenians" !
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Post by Yanc on Nov 25, 2005 14:18:06 GMT -7
Yes exactly, I didn't knew they are Armenians in english. However I won the quiz. Jaga what is the prize?
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Post by bescheid on Nov 25, 2005 14:53:13 GMT -7
Jaga
Well, I am too late with too little. Too old too soon, and too smart too late.
I would not have guessed as the people being Armenians. Although I wondered with the bright colours of the buildings. It was interesting reading through the url that you provided, as I am not very familiar with Armenian people. I have some of their music and more or less figured them as more Oriental in nature.
Your friend, is she the lady on the left in the photo with the bright coloured dress?
Charles
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Post by Jaga on Nov 25, 2005 15:41:29 GMT -7
Yes exactly, I didn't knew they are Armenians in english. However I won the quiz. Jaga what is the prize?
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Post by Jaga on Nov 25, 2005 16:02:32 GMT -7
Jaga Well, I am too late with too little. Too old too soon, and too smart too late. I would not have guessed as the people being Armenians. Although I wondered with the bright colours of the buildings. It was interesting reading through the url that you provided, as I am not very familiar with Armenian people. I have some of their music and more or less figured them as more Oriental in nature. Your friend, is she the lady on the left in the photo with the bright coloured dress? Charles Charles, you are familiar with Germany. Did you have any Armenians over there? By the way - Zamosc was also settled by Greeks and Sephardi Jews. This was a bit of surprise since Askhenazi Jews lived mainly in EE.
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Post by bescheid on Nov 25, 2005 17:07:42 GMT -7
Jaga At moment, I am at an awkward position. Well, yes, Berlin and Hamburg are the main areas of Arminian population. They are good business people and generally do well. They are as most people, trying to raise a family, keep their jobs as well. It becomes some what sticky though with todays Turkisch Goverment. It is a stye in the eye over the Arminians of today and years long past. I would tend to belive, if polititics would just keep quite, people would be just people. www.eubusiness.com/East_Europe/050616151616.axnfe2wxI had some information for you in this reguard and I am not sure if that was deleated last year. Charles
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